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Senate | April 28, 2015 | Chamber | Press Conference - Representative R. Moore

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two, three, three, two, one check one, two, three we're here at the general assembly where the 10 O'clock groups of sending legislatures and law enforcement. People possibly will talk about typical law take response. Mic check one, two, three, three, two, one, let me check for you. Thanks Bill depending on who it is, it brings you a lot of helping like it would be good to break up with a, I know that. I was confused Good morning, how are you? Oh, I'm sorry right. This meeting is taking how much time tell me I could totally get it this one right here never mind, which [BLANK We can have anybody who's

able and wants to gather around, we'll ask you to do that, this time we're going to be very Okay good morning. Good morning. Good morning. I am Representative Rodney Moore, I represent Malkenberg County and house district number 99, we are here today, glad to have coalition partners to discuss and okay, for House Bill 193, which is to prohibit discriminatory profiling, we filed this Bill in March. We're trying to get movement on the Bill, we're trying to make sure that we get it into Committee and we get it to the floor and that it can be heard, and so these coalition partners have traveled here from diverse areas of the state, Wilmington, Greensborough. Absolutely, I have some strong partners and allies here. So what our proof is here today, is to compel not only the speaker but the committee chairman, representative Daugherty, to put house bill 193 on the calendar and let it be vetted out in the public domain and let it have and in up or down voting committee then hopefully we can compel enough of the committee members to be able to pass this bill out of committee so that we can go to the floor of the house and that we can have a sustained, serious conversation about an issue that as you've seen in the national news has been played out on TV as a very serious matter with relating to how law enforcement agencies communicate and how they interact with communities of color. We've seen Baltimore implode over the last couple of days and the tipping point was Mr. Gray's death, but there was something more involved with that and so we really need to be proactive can't stick our heads in the sand any longer about the reality of arbitrary profiling in communities of color and law enforcement. And so we're here as a coalition to advocate for that particular bill and also we advocate for the implementation and the use and the dissemination of video from body counts so that's our purpose here today. And so we're very limited in our time because we're very busy, but Thank you Did you get this from Robert? Robert gave it to me? Okay, that's fine. We will have some speakers very briefly one minute to speak. And I'll ask first of all, Tamika Williams, if she would like to come to the podium and speak or you don't have to. We'll just acknowledge your presence and you just tell us who you are Tamika Williams Where you from? Charlotte, North Carolina Okay, we have Mr Thomas Austin, Yes

sir Mr. Olson. Goodmorning. Hi, C'mon Very, very brielfy. My name is Thomas Olson, my son's name is Thomas Shantez Olson found hanging flare fist response on August 4th 2013, the medical examiner reports said hip flinched and tongue protruding it was horrible and as of today I have no more information, the police haven't given me virtually about my son, I know you know the tree he was hung in, they found him I called the police and asked for certain evidence and they wouldn't give it to me. I knew that he was in a fight early that night I know his life was threatened, there's a video on it. They won't let me see the video. So my problem with Raleigh Police Department transparency, and the part I want to know to them it's just a job, it's just another human being but to us their loved ones. And we want to know what happen to our loved ones, all what it will please enclosure in my life and my families life is what happened to my son. If they can dig up a body which it has been in the woods for 25 years to find out who killed that person they can tell me today how my son died in 2013. Thank you Mr Oustine I feel your pain Also let me just be clear on another part of this bill that you heard about in the media as got a lot of thoughts, is to reforming and giving municipalities and counties the blanket authority to form and to implement their own Citizen Review Board, and so I think when Mr. Oustine to transparency, I think that we really need to have the citizens become involved, have transparency between the citizens and Law Enforcement Agencies so we can we can cartel this exercise of question or behavior. I'll ask Mr. Jay Moore Davis to come to the podium very quickly and give this story as well Hello everyone, my name is Jay Moore Davis, February 2013, I was shot six times by man of the Police department on a traffic stop. The craziest thing about my case is, I was shot within five minutes of the traffic stop and they still really don't tell the public much of anything there's scam of my incident. They never release that to the public, they kind of put up they own persona about my background, if you google my name, you can find as much negative stuff as they wanted to put out about me but what you can't find is my military service, I was wounded in Iraq, [xx] I'm a proud father of three kids, that's what I do, I just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. The biggest thing and confusion with me is with me being a veteran. I don't understand how the police have more authority than our military. In war, we couldn't just shoot someone because we were nervous or because we thought something was going on, we had to be sure. I was shot six times because [xx] but unlike these other people, I mean I'm still here, and get to tell you what happened, my side of the story. Hoping it all gets better but, that's why we're here. And I'm his mum, the [xx] what he's not saying out of those, six times he was hit. The car was hit thirty plus times. He was pulled over by one officer, the second officer pulled up shooting. No one ever spoke with me about what happen just Detective Tombler, he was sorry. he was trying to kill my son. I don't know what he was looking at, but what I saw was attempted murder, but it was Gods grace that my son is here. It took the rest of the family [xx] My heart, our hearts go out to your families, we all want answers, my son is leaving, but I still have no more answers that you want. How do they see this justifiable? Do they not have loved ones? Or whatever boy, babies or parents, citizens if you board an SPI, FBI, whatever board. People need to consider the fact that answer the question as it is. We have loved ones that they can be our babies that they're killing, these are our husbands,

our sons, our brothers, our families and really needs to stop. Amen. Before I go to the next speaker, let me acknowledge a couple of my colleagues, Representative Jim Fother Butterfield, who is a prime sponser on this bill with me. Representative Hollywood Hanna, Representative Yvonne Holy, Representative Shirley Willinghare, Representative Josh Graham and Representative Susan Hamison, we appreciate your support at this time and we look forward to interacting and trying to give this bill into to law. That was the focuss for this bill, not for political gamesmanship. But we are going to something into law to protect our citizens. We will have Mr. McCullough, William McCullough follow that into law to protect our citizens roll on, my friend from Charlotte, and we'll have those two speakers very quickly, and we have two more, I think Johnson is here now and once Reverend Johnson finishes will open it up for questions. Morning? My name is Willy McCullough,  I'm from [xx] County [xx], my son was shot and killed on May 31st of last year and I'm here to support this bill and any bill that would put sunlight on what happens to our kids. I don't have any more information a day and at the morning after he was killed and it's hard the District Attorney, the Police Departments they give you nothing it's like your child's life don't mean anything. The policeman that killed my son might later be back out in the street working. I mean to me it was like, he didn't do anything wrong,. We can put him back to work. But my son is gone, I'll never be able to hug him, to tell him I love him. He will never give me any does, a grandson, and it hurts. And I really don't want, there's nothing to be done about the way young black men are being killed in this country, it isn't right and it doesn't make sense I'm Osborn Washington, I'm an activist and organizer of action of North Carolina and various other activist organizations of in North Carolina and the NTP. I'm here today for the bill on racial profiling, racial profiling is a historical thing. Since the beginning of time of this sub location, racial profiling has been in effect and it's a shot heard around the world. Racial profiling  leads into police brutalities and a lot of families have been effected. You've heard in major cities and states all affected by it all for all being one [xxx] all major states, Los Angeles this is why I say it's a short heard around the world and we need to pass this bill. Somebody up top on [xxx] needs to hear it really need to do something. Thank you and God bless the families and God bless America amen We will have Mr. Davenskills and the next one is after Mrs Scales then we will have Reverend Johnson come and speak very briefly and that we'll open it up for questions we'll do that okay? how's everybody doing? Fine. I'm speaking on behalf of me and my brother and the Scales brother's I almost familiar with our cases we have two different cases for the very first time I was actually going to school and they take my brother and drop me on my face and then have being given proper

call that tell us the whole reason I've been doing it for the second incident I've been walking down the street I had to put my Grandmother to bed and we couldn't walk down the street and they give a proper cause for that, they just through community the clergy and a lot of support we've got this and they apologize and that they was in the wrong, and it's like why does all this have to happem in order for for thing's have changed is the word's, I'm even lost for word's right now, is just look at our America, it's got to change. My name is Nelson Johnson, a pastor at Greensboro and I'm the executive director of the [xx] community center there, you know my heart is pained when I hear a father come and lament that there will be no grand children as a result of the abuse of police power and Brother Deban who just spoke he is going through a gruesome thing and the letter doesn't do justice to it but it's nine months of going through every single step in the current police process, and it's only where huge rallies and the week before he was exonerated by the city manager after going through all the police processes we had scheduled our intern [xx] police review board case to be heard, his case was the next one, is then that we got this document, let me just briefly say I'm so very pleased that this bill is being introduced and I want to speak to three things very quickly. One is that we need a much better system of data collection since I've been here that I don't know anymore now than I did when this happened, it's because the specifics of what's required. What happened? When it happened? Who it happened to? What was the investigative process, all all of these information needs to be compiled. Yes, actually at the base of democracy, if you do not know what happened how can you provide oversight as a citizen. So I think that is so very, very crucial. The second thing is our officers need so much more training, they have a difficult job to do and they haven't been equipped to do that job in the way that they should. We had a young man shot nine times somebody call for and he was nude in the back of a shop feeding a dog, and the man who ran try call for help. He meant psychological help. They came out, and this was some years ago, and shot this young man nine times. It didn't have to happen. This officer was young, he was not trained well, and this was an emotional situation that should've been dealt with in a different way. So all levels of training and continuous training and you never stop learning. So we need that, and I'm glad that that's in this bill. But most importantly we new tools to ensure adequate oversight and that's a citizen's police review board that has some teeth in it that would have investigative power that will have supernal power and that would give the citizens what they need and I want to emphasize this all who think this anti-police are wrong these actually will help the police and as all and we were able to do the work that we did that we were able to get a ruling favorable to this young man and also the discipline of the police officer who prejudice himself and the process prejudice itself and the process after that prejudice itself but we will relentless in pursuing this

and we don't have sufficient tools to do it but sometimes we have to use what we have and do the best we can and  when people rise up in great numbers but how many young people would have near their pastor or a pastor who's willing to do this and a process that hangs with this so if it's not clear as of yesterday it ought to be clear now that there problem's in our police culture and we have a way to fix it in North Carolina so let's support this bill let's all of us get behind and push it hard so that the citizens will have the tools and North Carolina will not imitate Baltimore. Thank you, we have about seven minutes we have to turn this room over. Who's that? now listen I know this young lady we try real hard to hold her to a minute, I've known her since she was a little girl Thank you for the opportunity to speak. My name is Sonya Vincent Patrick, I'm from New Hanover County, I'm speaking on behalf of the family of the late Brandon Smith. He was shot 27 times by Law Enforcement when he was unarmed. The system has to change and while we support this bill we want you to advocate form the local level, and New Hanover County we're starting to campaign the city council and mayor that they don't support [xx] review board will Subpoena, they will get our support in November. So we must stand strong, stand together and I ask you for prayer for the family of Brandon Smith. He was racially profiled as a gang member, he was a father, his son has leukaemia, nine year old son, and Brandon prayed that God would take his life rather than his own son's life, he was a good man. For he's no longer with us but we're going to continue to advocate for justice, Thank you for listening. Before we take questions I will like to thank all of the partner organisation, action industry LACP National Action Networking and others who have been on the front line of not just this issue but all issues that relate to injustices and things across that, so if you have any question I see a little bit of media here so, if you have any question we will take on at this time. Yes, why do you thing why haven't the all kind of association against racial profile? Its a good question sir, I wish I knew that answer and to be honest with you, I think that people have been in the conflict zone, where its almost like they have been relaxed and they don't want to talk about this tough issues, but when this instances continue and continue, this is not a new phenomena, this is happened over and over decades. not only in North Carolina but across the country as well and as you start to see more of these instances come to light, hopefully our officials, our lawyers, the people in the legal and the criminal justice system will start to move and take a positive outlook in the stand or in somebody's atrocities that we've seen. If you want more transparency, if you want more transparency. Ooh Patrick. This question may be about priorities of this legislator you talked about representative doctry[sp?] I think your bill is in Chamber 1. That committee just had this morning a bill and expanding gun rights making it easier for people to have guns in more places and also a bill would have expanded cooperate police departments like the ones that serve hospitals and places like that they voted against that bill but those are the kinds of bills this committee is hearing. You talk about priority and what it means that your bill is not being heard when these types of bills [xx]. Well you're absolutely correct are the committee chair governs the process that's why were here today Patrick, because we want to emphasis to chairman Dotchery and others of his committee. That as important as expanding gun rights to go into restaurants where you drink and all those things are important . This is equally important to have protections for their citizens and have some recourse if and when this things happen and law enforcement steps over.

So we're going to vigorously lobby Chairman Dotchery today and see if we can get. The only saving graces that this bill has a referral to appropriation so, it's not subject to crossover so we have a little time to try to get this bill heard If you want transparency, then why support a bill that was passed last week that allows body cameras, which at the end of the day allow whether or not the video proof set body cameras are released to the public. That bill passed last overwhelmingly the general simply why support support that bill you really want transparency. Well I think that particular bill, this is legislation is not the inferall, that's a first. We at least got a majority to realize that we need to have access to body cameras. and so I think as we start to tweet that particular law, it got to go to the senate. We've already lobbied some of our senators to try and tweet the law as it goes over. And so you have to start somewhere, but I think with this particular effort as far as the profiling, I think that this is something we cannot compromise on, this is something that we have to stand far from it, the police need more training. We need more transparency and we need to give civic government the right and the power to put this Citizen's Review Boards, if they so choose or their community demands it. Racial profiling is already why is this necessary in addition? Because it is and in federal level law, but it still continues to happen, and so we need to send a clear message to our law enforcement angencies and to the state of North Carolina that these will not be tolerate in the state of North Carolina and if it does crop up, then we will have, we will be very be very vigilant and holding people accountable and having transparency to the public. There again the situation in Baltimore and in Fergurson did not just happen with the deaths of Mike Brown or Freddy Gray, there was undecided, there was there was attention that was boiling up and that was the tipping point and so if you look at communities in North Carolina there is ecstasies and  and Greensboro there's instances in Wilmington and Charlotte this situation is at a tipping point, it's at a tipping point and all we need is for something of that nature to happen here Wilmington or Greenboro and the same thing can happen here in our cities, in our counties, in our state. And so we want to be vigilant and we want to put this policy in place so that we can show law enforcement that yeah we know you have a hard job, but you have to be held accountable, and we have to show the citizen's that we are here to protect and serve you. So absolutely, young ladies just talking about this manly racism and complicit bystraing[sp?] and so all those things will work to try to get us to a point where we can become more transparent, where we can have more trust between law enforcement and and communicty [xx] we need to start the conversation, we need to have an ongoing conversation and we intend to do that as a collision whether this bill gets passed this year, next year or an year after we going to stay on this issue, and we're going to make North Carolina a better place We have to get out, we'll be outside if you want to do any interviews or have any questions. Thank you for coming