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Senate | April 23, 2015 | Chamber | Senate Session

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senate will come to order, sergeant at arms close the doors members will go to their seats members and guest in the gallery, we ask you please silence all electronic devices. Leading the senate in prayers is Lieutenant Commander Reginald Allen of Jacksonville, Command Chaplain at the marine corps air station New River, Dr. Allan is a guest of Senator Brown. All members and guests in the gallery, please stand. Let us pray, God of our fathers in whom we trust and by whose guidance and grace this nation was born. Bless the senators of this Char Hill State at this important time in history, and give them all things needful for the faithful discharge of their responsibilities. We pray especially for our Lieutenant Governor Danforth, who presides over this chamber, give him and to our senators good health, for the physical strains of their office, good judgement for the decisions they must make, wisdom beyond their own, and yes clear understanding for the problems of this difficult hour. We thank thee for the humble reliance upon you, may they go off to the throne room of grace, and we commend them to thy loving care, and thy loving guiding hand, with your holy name and we pray, and we thank thee. Amen. Senator Berger is recognized for a motion. Forgot to wind my watch. Thank you Mr. President the journal of Wednesday, April, 22nd, 2015 has been examined and has found to been correct. I move that we dispense for the reading of the journal and that is stand approved as written. Objection the journal of April, 22nd stands approved as written. Senators we have a leave of absence today granted for Senator Raven. We also have a nurse of the day, Mercy Sheepwash of High Point, North Carolina is here Northship please stand and be recognized thank you for serving the senate today. For the motion Senator Raven the chair is happy to extend courtesies of the gallery to the students from Triton high school taking civics class trine high school students please stand and be recognized thanks for joining us here today. Plan the motion of senator Tom against the school, the chair is happy then courteous of the gallery to North Loren burg Elementary School the fourth grade class, of North Loren Burg is here with us if you're in the gallery please stand. Maybe not here yet. We'll probably recognize them later. Do we have any reports of standing committees? report of standing committees. Senator Apodaca for what purpose do you rise? To send forth a pensions retirement report. You can send forth your report senator, clerk will read. Senator Apodaca Pension and Retirement and Aging Committee submits for passage. Senate Bill 455 committee substitute number one and ran this investment act favorable. Senate Bill 77, unfavor as to bill the favorest committee substitute bill, increase Wilkes farmer pension. Senate Bill 79 definition of fire fighter unfavorable as to bill but favorable as to committee substitute bill idle fire safety and safety work system changes. Senate bill 455, 77 and 99 calender. Do you have any other for standing committee, Senator Newton for what purpose did you rise? To send forth the committee report Senator you can send forward your report.

Clerk will read. Senator Newton, would you share with [xx] committee submits the passing Senate Bill 301, DOT/Purchase of Contaminated Land favorable. Senate Bill 301 Calendar. Further reports outstanding committees. Any other reports of standing committees before we move into the calendar? That take us right into the calender for the day. Senator Rapadocah for waht purpose of your rise? Multiple motions Mr. President. Senator Apodaca has multiple motions. Thank you Mr. President, members. Senate Bill 382 privitazation of purely system periods on those calendar, need it moved to Monday's calendar please. Without objection, so ordered. Thank you Mr. President, senate bill 539, DOT work force abduction compliance is currently on appropriation base budget move that it have a referral back to the committee remove from progression senate committee on roads please without objection [xx] Thank you Mr. President. Senate Bill 504 had speared the debate today and commerce committee, noble beauty salons, we need to add a serial referral to the committee of finance for Senator [xx] Without objection so ordered. Thank you Mr. President. On today's calender is senate bill 572 I don't have the tittle in front of me. Thank you, we need to remove it from today's calender and send it to the committee on transportation. Is that 572 Senator? Yes sir No objection is an order. Okay back in reports of outstanding committees, revenue further reports outstanding committees for removing it to the calender we retreat into the calender, starting with public bills, third reading will call, senate bill 159 focal reading. Senate bill 159, transferred property is it correct to revault?  Senator Torres recognized. Thank you Mr President, members this is same bill that was before us yesterday with no changes and was unanimously approved. I ask for your support again today. Are having a discussion or debate? Hearing none the question for the senate is the passes the committee substitute senate bill 159 as amended on its third reading. All in favor will vote I opposed will vote no five seconds will be allowed for the voting, clerk to record the vote. Gentlemen, I Styne[sp?], I Brians, I Watered, I Flock, I Telman was I Wells I what a [xx]. 49 having voted in the affirmative and zero in the negative the committee substitute senate bill 159 as ammended passes its third reading, the amendment would be engrossed would be sent to the house. Senate Bill 284 clerk will read. Senate bill 284 infrastructure assessment extends [xx] step. Do we have any further discussion debate? Hearing none the question for the senate bill passed committee substitute senate bill 284 on it's third reading on favor will vote I, those opposed will vote no, five seconds will be allowed for the voting clerk will record the vote [xx] I, Briant, I, Senator Tillman I, Kurk I, Bellinger I, 49 having voted in the affirmative and zero in the negative, committee substitute Senate bill 284 passes itsthird reading it will be sent to the house, moving on to public bill the second reading Senate Bill 303 the clerk will read.  Senate Bill 303, protect safety well being of innocent citizens. Senator Barefoot is recognized to speak to the bill. Thank you Mr. President. this bill stops a major federal overreach by the EPA which would create dozens of new and un-realist and unneeded regulations and make far more difficult for families to use wood stoves to either [xx] enforced in the State North Carolina by North Carolina. The E. P. A has drafted over 300 pages worth of new regulations on a missions for wood burning stoves and heaters and many cases even applying the heater that previously unregulated. This regulations would significantly increase the cost of wood burning heaters

and stoves the consequences that will only devastate the local small businesses building these products but also place an additional financial burden on lots of folks who can least afford it. There were also these proportional affect families in our mountain communities many of them in foreign rule areas where far greater number that rely solely on wood fired heat to keep them warm during the winter. In Swain County for example 12.3% of residents rely solely on wood fired heat and that's in the county where 26% of the people live below the poverty line in the NC county 17.6% of residents rely solely on wood fire heat while 20% live at the below the poverty level and these regulations are truly unnecessary since it is been reported that our state is near the bottom in national rankings for admissions related to wood burning, that's why this bill allows North Carolina to exercise its right to up data than forcing the pending EPA rules. What it does is that it prohibits the State Environment Management Commission and Department Of Environment Natural Resources from implementing and enforcing this burdensome regulations against businesses or consumers, and at the appropriate time I'd like to sent forth an amendment. You can send forward your amendment senator. Clerk reading Senator Buffer rules to amend the bill. Senator Buffer recognize to speak to the amendment. Thank you, Mr. President all this amendment does is adjust the effective date in section 5 was a request that Diner gave us and with this change there would be 100% favor of this bill. We are having discussion debate on amendment one. Hearing none, the question for the senate is the adoption of amendment one, favorable aye, oppose vote no, five seconds will be allowed for the voting, clerk will record the vote. Hiss aye, Daniel aye, Smith no, 45 having voted in the affirmative and four in the negative amendment one is adopted the bill as amended is back before the body, is there any discussion or debate? Senator Brian for what purpose do you rise? To change my vote on the amendment before you go forward, Mr. President What was you vote senator?  It was no and I want to change it to aye. Senator Brian changes her vote from no to aye on the amendment. Senator Smith for what purpose do you rise? For the same thing I'd like to change it to aye.  Senator Smith changes her vote to aye and Senator Robinson as well, same thing? Yes.  Senator Robinson changes her vote to aye. Senator [xx] Thank you. Votes are high. Yes please. Thank you. Final count, 49 to Zero so this bill as amended is back before the body is there discussion or debate on the committee senate bill 303 as amended Senator Hyes for what purpose of your rise? Speak to the bill. Senator Hyes has the floor to speak to the bill. Thank you Mr. Chairman members of the committee this this is a point where the E. P. A has really hopped on the crazy train for us to North Carolina. I represent many counties as he mentioned like Kansas county. One of every five homes is heated by wood this is a heating source the individuals use, it's their own property and and others means they don't have to pay for the source of heating. And allows you to say. Well, their grandfather did those toss I also represent manufactures like maxto how many more manufacturers do you think and continue to make parts and continue to make stoves that no longer meet those standards or requirements, so now we're looking at entire population with the show up that everything goes wrong with their stove it can't be fixed, come out of pockets with thousands of dollars, to have to replace your heating system or if you upgrade the natural gas or others, you can't give your stove to  a family member or others to use as a primary heating source in the house. Wet can't as nature of State change the Federal Regulations, but we can stop them from becoming State Regulations. We can start this system of automatically adapting this types of roads that come into the state and using our resources to enforce them. That's what we're doing in this Bill today, I thank you for your support on this Bill and the communities of West and North Carolina who still rely on this heating source and have for generations thank you for your support. Senator Sanderson, for what purpose do you rise?  Thank you Mr. President, to

see if Senator Heist will yield to a question.  Senator Heist do you yield?  Senator heist, did you say crazy train or gravy train,  I said crazy train. Okay. You have any further discussion or debate? Senator Wood[sp?], for what purpose do you rise. To see if Senator Barefoot will yield for a question. Senator Barefoot do you yield? Yes Thank you Barefoot, reading sections H and I, see if you can give me some clarification, if this applies, are you narrowly defining this to apply to wood stoves, or would there be a broader application to o-zone rules in clean power plan that EPA has proposed. Yes. Our intent is to nearly define this for wood stoves, we think that's clear, the Department of Environment and natural resources testified yesterday during the committee, that they were completely supportive of this and 100% on board, so I commend the bill to you. Any further discussion or debate? Senator Wood for what purpose do you rise? Receive a bill from Barefoot one more question. Senator Barefoot do you yield for follow up? Yes looking through sections two, three and for of the bill, requires EMC votes of 3/5 majority and I'd like to understand the rational for requiring the super majority of those EMC votes. What we are would we'll do in the next section of the bill is we are saying that E. P. A sets new rules and when they come to the State North Carolina, our environment management commission has got to have a three fist vote of their board to adopt this in the state policy. Not only that if they get the three fist vote comes to the general assembly for acceptance, no longer is the state going to be auto pilot for and putting in the State rules what the E. P. A is cramming down on us Any further discussion debate Yes President Senator Mikasi[sp?] what purpose do you rise? [xx] to the question Senator [xx] what do you? I do. Senator [xx] that was committee that considered this bill, but I gather from the reading what I've seen here is that what we are actually doing, we are not completely prohibiting the Federal Regulation, we are just establishing a machinism for more closer scrutiny in reviewing these regulations. Is that correct? That's right. The current system is that when the new E. P. A regulations comes down, there's lay on the table for 12 months we don't do anything about them, they are automatically adapted into the law and I point out that they only apply to three rule sections. The new source performance standards which is where these wood hitter[sp?] things come from. The maximum achievable control technology standards and I think there is another one in there, I can't see it. But they only apply to three sections of rules and it just sets up a process by which the state. If we want to adopt them, have to affirmatively do so rather than putting us on auto pallet and the reason the Department of Environment and Natural resources likes this bill is because there are nothing but unfunded mandates that come with no resources from the Federal Government for them to enforce on this State. Some of them are crazy, any discussion or debate? Mr President. Senator Hudson for what purpose do you rise? Let me ask a question I guess Senator Bradford Senator Bradford [xx] In terms of those mandate if impacted and it sounds like it is and we do not automatically adopt the rule because it's an EPA rule who enforce is the rule in North Carolina They do, but it won't be us and we won't have to pay for it and the E. P. A gives us the ability to do what we are doing right now. They give us the ability to opt out of having to enforce their rules. So, a follow up Mr. President. Senator do you yield? Senator [xx] So that means that they will enforce their rule as opposed to our enforcing their rule. That's right, Okay Any further discussion or debate. Hearing none, the question before the Senate is the passage of Committee Substitute senate bill 303 as amended on its second reading all in favor vote aye, oppose vote no, five seconds bill out  for the voting and the clerk will record the vote. [xx] aye, Clark no, [xx] aye,  already

having voted in the affirmative nine in the negative committee substitute senate bill 303 as amended passes its second reading without objection to be read a third time. North Carolina General assembly enact. You have any further discussion or debate? Mr. President. Senator Rapadocah for what purpose do your rise? Speak to the bill. Senator Rapo Dacah has the floor to speak to the bill. Thank you Mr. President members I was just noticing I've opposed to vote against this bill and here we go again they all live in the major metropolitan areas, have access to all the heat and energy they want. Maybe when they come to visit us up in the mountains in the winter they may want to wait till summer, when they can have air conditioning and not heat, thank you. Mr. President. Senator Stine for what purpose do your rise? To debate the bill. Senator Stine has the floor to debate the bill. Nothing gives me more pleasure than coming up to the mountains, whether it's in the summer or the winter, one of the most beautiful places in our country, and I really don't have problem with section one with the bill in terms of the woods [xx] piece so if this bill were eliminated out senator Rapadoca I'd been right there with you with your constituent, my concern is the point raised by Senator Widder[sp?] in section two which is creating a super majority requirement on the EMC and an auto review to the legislature making these rules an air quality much more speck than any other rule of any type health, welfare, environment and state law and I don't think it's necessary. We've got a big grool review process with that reason, I'm voting against this bill. Senator Apodaca, What purpose do you rise?  Mr. President. Thank you a second time. Senator Apodaca speak about the bill for the second time  I worry most more about people freezing, than I do about some rules. Thank you. Senator Telmen for what purpose do you rise? Thank you Mr. President, to speak briefly on the bill. Senator Telmen has the floor speak to the bill. I could ask senator [xx] I don't know what, kenland[sp?] is but if an EPA agent would go up into your territory or even mine and try to take our wood stores out. They would be a new definition for what cannaline would be used for Senator Mckissick for what purpose do you rise? To speak on the bill Senator Mckissick has the floor to speak to the bill Yes, so we can get get the records straight here I have two wood stoves now living in urban area I also know a form of congress woman whose home I've been many times who has a wood still I voted for it. I didn't vote against it, so check the score board Any further discussion or debate? Hearing non the question for the senate is the passage of the committee substitute Senate Bill 303 as amended on its third reading. All in favor will say aye, Aye! oppose is no, the ayes have it, the committee substitute Senate Bill 303 passes its third reading, the amendment will be engrossed that will be sent to the house. Senate bill 304 the clerk will read Senate Bill 304 administration of logo signed program Senator Jackson is recognized to speak to the bill Thank you Mr. President, members this bill basically allows the department of transportation to place logo sign direct and customers to local businesses in the a lot of ways of partially control the access highways under the current law it is not clear that logo signs can be and it will possibly control access highway and this bill clarifying this and say that they can pay the fee and have those signs and able to appreciate your support, thank you. We're having any discussion or debate? Hearing non the question before the senate is the passage of Senate Bill 304 on its second reading all in favor of vote aye, oppose vote no, five seconds will be allowed for the voting and clerk will record the vote. Briant aye, 49 having voted in the affirmative and zero in the negative, Senate bill 304 passes its second reading without objection will be read a third time. North Carolina General Assembly enact. Any other discussion or debate, hearing none, question for the Senate is the passage of senate bill 304 on it's third reading. All in favor will say aye. Aye! Oppose no, and the ayes have it. Senate bill 304 passes it's third reading and will be sent to the house. Senators supporting the motion are senator Tom Mcguiness of [xx] county, the chair is happy to extend courtesies to the gallery to North Laurinburg Elementary School the fourth grade class, if you're with us please stand to be recognized. Thanks for being here today. And upon the motion Senator Pate, Wayne County the Chair is happy to extend courtesies gallery to St. Peters Catholic School from Granville, if you are here with us today please stand and be recognized. Thank you for joining us. Senate Bill 368, the clerk will read.

Senate bill 368, DoD Certified Child Care and State Subsidy. Senator Brown is recognized. Thank you Mr. President. All the bill is allow the department of defense satisfied childcare facilities to participate in the state subsidized childcare program under certain conditions I'll go into more detail if you'd like but that's basically what it does. Having a discussion or debate? Hearing none. The question before the Senate is the passes senate bill 368 on second reading on favor will vote aye, oppose no, second bill is out for voting, clerk will record the vote. Van Duyn, McKissick, aye, Curtis. Senator Curtis  aye. 49 having voted in the affirmative and zero in the negative, the committee substitute senate bill 368 passes its second reading without objection be read a third time. General Assembly act.  Any discussion or debate? Hearing none, the question before the Senate passes the substitute bill 368 on its third reading. All in favour say aye. Aye. Oppose no, the ayes have it, my substitute senator goes for 368 passes third reading it'll be sent to the house. Senate bill 370 clerk will read. Senate bill 370 read vehicle title and registration.  Senator Barefoot 's recognized to speak for the bill. Thank you Mr. President, section one of this bill clarifies that various documents submitted to the division of motor vehicles, pursuant to a motor vehicle seller lease may be submitted with electronic signatures and electronic notarization. A section two set forth a new section that would, a new subsection to the current lean release statute that would provide seven business daytime frame for the release of a security interest on rob from a bank and provide or three day business day time frame for subsequent mailing, of the title by DMV after electronic, notice of in satisfaction and this bill was supported by both the banks and the DMV ask for your support. So any discussion or debate? Hearing non the question for the senate is the passage of the committee substitute the Senate bill 370 on the second reading. All in favor vote aye, oppose vote no. Five seconds to be allowed for the voting and the clerk will record the vote Cook, aye. 49 having voted in the affirmative and zero in the the Committee Substitute Senate Bill 370 passes its second reading without objection be read a third time. North Carolina General Assembly Enact. Any discussion or debate? Hearing none, requesting for the senators to passes the committee substitute senate bill 370 house third reading say aye. Aye. Opposes no. The ayes have it committee substitute senate bill 370 passes it's third reading it will be sent to the house. Senate bill 374, clerk will read Senate bill 374, modify for higher license logbook requirement. Senator Cook is recognized to speak for the bill. This bill is two parts, the first is lay to the current reporting of catching every data by four higher causal recreation phishing licencee's, this bill makes it voluntary to make these reports I've had hundreds of calls and emails opposing this requirement, we need to eliminate this regulation. The other part was amendment from Senator [xx] the joint enforcement agreement between our state our marine patrol inspectors and the Law Enforcement branch of the national marine fishery services is opposed, and again I have heard lots, hundreds of folks telling me that they don't want this joint enforcement. I think this is a good way to reduce some of this over regulation and maintain the sovereignty of our state commend the bill to you and ask for your support. Do we have any discussion or debate? Hearing none the question for the senate is the passage of the committee substitute senate bill 374 on its second reading all in favor vote aye, oppose vote no, five second be allowed for the voting, the clerk will record the vote. Voted aye Smith Ingram[sp?] I, 49 having gotten the affirmative in zero and the negative the committee substitute the senate bill 74 passes it's second reading without objection will be read a third time. North Carolina general assembly enact. Any discussion or debate hearing none, question of the senate is the passage of the committee substitute senate bill 374 passes it's third reading those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed no, the ayes have it committee substitute senate bill 374 passes its third reading it will be sent to the house. Senate bill 534 clerk will read. Senate bill 534 study soon

online data privacy. Senator Bill is recognized. Thank you Mr. President this bill simply directs the state board of education to study issues relating to protecting elementary and secondary student's data personal informational online and cloud based services and other electronic applications. Any discussion or debate? Hearing non the question for the senate is the passage of the committee substitute Senate bill 534 on its second reading, all in favor vote aye, oppose will vote no, five second for the voting and the clerk will record the vote. Voted aye. Cook, Ward, aye, aye. 49 having voted in the affirmative and zero in the negative committee substitute Senate Bill 534 passes it second reading without objection be read a third time North Carolina general assembly enact Any discussion or debate? Hearing none the question for the senate is the passage of the committee substitute Senate Bill 534 on its third reading all in favor say aye, oppose no, the ayes have it.committee substitute Senate Bill 534 passes its third reading, it will be sent to the house. Senate Bill the clerk will read Senate Bill 536 student know before you go Senator Bill is recognised Thank you Mr. President, in the next to buying a home, the degree or higher education that a child or a student in this state decides to invest in will be one of the largest financial investment they make their life, and what this bill seeks to do is to provide them with good information and we have on how to make that decision by placing some of the outlined  areas that you can see in the bill on the North Carolina State Educational Authorities website, I commend it you.  We're having a discussion or a debate? hearing none, question for the senate has been passage of the committee substitute Senate Bill 536 on a second reading, all in favor vote aye, oppose vote no, five seconds will allow for the voting, clerk will record the vote [xx]. Newton aye 49 having voted in the affirmative and zero in the negative the committee substitute Senate Bill 536, passes its second reading without objection to be read a third time North Carolina general assembly enact Any discussion or a debate? Hearing none requesting for the senate to pass to the committee substitute Senate Bill 536 on its third reading, all in favor say aye. Aye. Oppose no, the ayes have it.committee Substitute Senate Bill 536, passes its third reading, it will be sent to the house. Senate Bill 621 the clerk will read Senate Bill 621, registration renewal notice bail. Senator Meredith is recognized to speak to the bill Thank you Mr. President, Members of Senate. This bill would allow VOT when they send out the registration cards and vehicle taxes to send an email sent in the form of an email only if the owner of the vehicle consents to the email. I would appreciate your support We're having a discussion or a debate? Hearing none, requesting for the senate to pass the senate bill 621 on a second reading, all in favor vote aye, oppose vote no. Five seconds be allowed for the voting, clerk will record the vote. 49 having voted in the affirmative and zero in the negative senate bill 621 passes its second reading without objection be read a third time. North Carolina General Assembly Enact. Any discussion or debate? Hearing none, the question for the senators to pass this Senate Bill 621 on its third reading all in favor say aye, oppose no the ayes have it senate bill 621 passes its third reading and it will be sent to the house. Senate Bill 647 the clerk will read. Senate bill 647 amend trapping law   Senator Sendros is recognized to speak to the Bill. Thank you Mr. President, members of the Senate this Bill is almost identical to when we passed in 2013, we passed almost unanimous out of the Senate they got kind of side tracked in the House. We cleared it up a little bit as far as couple of contradiction that were in the enforcement aspect of this bill, it's a good bill and I just submit to you and ask for your support. We're having a discussion debate Senator Magenus for what purpose do you rise?   Yes sir, I read this bill, I've been an out endorsement Vice President, Legislative, Chairman, Senate. This bill is very confusing to me, it's got one set of rules for public land another set for private land and our wildlife officers are already overworked. We put additional things on him and additional things for him to do that are confusing at best and, I'm challenged and I'm going to vote against him because of that. Any further discussion for the debate, senator Stein for what purpose do rise? To see if the bill sponsor will yield for a question. Senator Henderson do you I do. Thank you. Thank you Mr. President, Senator Henderson, did the wild life commission upon on this bill do we know if they are in favor against? When we originally put this bill together in 2013 committee helped the wild life commission helped a great deal in structuring

this bill and they were in the agriculture committee yesterday and I voiced no objection one way or the other to it Thank you. Senator Brock for what purpose of your rise? Speak to the bill. Senator Broke has floor to speak to the bill. Here we go again running a bill that search and crouching upon these people's private property rights and when they do have a problem with [xx] that we want to give difference to people that want to come across your property and having got caught in the trap but if any of you ever heard you own dog get eaten up by a coyote of something like that I think you'd feel a lot different about this bill, you want to get rid of some of these pests that we have on our property I think is a violation of our personal property right. And for the Senator Newton for what purpose of your rise? To see if the bill sponsor would yield to senator [xx] I do, thank you senator and I apologize that I haven't had a chance to speak with you about this before now, not the committee that ha it so my question is how will this affect those we are trying to capture and kill and remove unatural animals like coyotes and which is a real problem in the States. Thank you senator Newton, this Bill is not going to hinder anybody that traps from trapping. All it's going to do, is to make sure that it's done in a safer way as possible. That's one of the mandates that the Tracking Association does, it's to do everything possible to diminish or to minimize collateral damages as far as other animals are concerned. All this does is that if you are going to use a specific size trap, it's put in enclosed container to keep other animals away from it, and that's basically all it does. Followup. Senator do you yied for a followup? I do I guess the best way to ask this question is, who is in favor? Who wants this legislation? Who is in support of it? The hunters, the people who use dogs to hunt in a talking about what Senator Bob said as far as apart being in pet back already if you've seen a pet in one of these traps you would feel very much safer to allow your pets to get out of the offer lease, if this was in effect, the Trappers Association is certainly opposed to it because it's going to add a minimal amount of additional cost to them, to be able to set their traps in a safe manner. Senator Bronk purpose of your rise? Speak for a second time. Senator Bronk has the floor to speak a second time. What we have to do is to keep our dogs up and wait for that rare opportunity where you do take a shot at Coyote. We do have a lot of problems with that and across the state these traps, they do act very quickly, but the thing about it is that were in the question almost a personal property right with this registration, you look like you are putting adding call from the trappers on this education process that you're doing and I just think it's unnecessary. Senator Crock for what purpose of your rise? Ask the good senator a question. Senator Cook do you have yell a question? I do. Can you tell us what children, senator Cook I'm very very happy to say that as far as I know in the state of North Carolina there's never been a child that came in the right contact with these traps, but they are currently setting such a way that that is not beyond the real of possibility, and I would really hate to even imagine what it would do to a child that came upon this trap accidentally and didn't know what it was, and made a tragic mistake. Senator Jackson for what purpose you rise? Thank you Mr. President, to see if the Bill sponsor answered the question. Senator Sanderson do you yield? I was warned about this, yes I do. Thank you Senator Sanderson, these traps originally because I ran this Bill in 2013, and we did pass it I think 48 or something to one or two or they might have been just 48 to zero that they that when I was running the Bill, the main problem we've ever seen these traps I believe, and my question to you is, were created to trap beavers, and were supposed to be put under the water. And from what we have seen they've been brought on land and that's where the problem are coming in, is that correct?

That's correct, and  When they come on land also being vetted and baked in the wood and no adequately protected they are one of the things this Bill does is prohibit wise collar bucket set where you just convert a hole on the side of a five gallon bucket and turn it over on top of the trap, which is not going to keep anything out that's not supposed to be there. The device that has been designed to house these traps was designed by members, Trappers Association, to restrict the damage that could be done unintendedly. Thank you Senator Samson and speaker on the Bill. Senator has the floor to speak to the Bill. Thank you Mr. President, members of the Senate, this Bill does not hinder trapping in any way, it Bill is a safety precaution for other animals that happen to wander into this, whether it would be a pet of yours or whether it'll be some other animal. This traps were designed to be put under water, and it is a deadly trap if you've ever seen one of them, whatever goes in it whether be a smaller child whether be a family dog or whether be a courity they are all dead immediately but they were designed for bivas. This is a good and I would ask that you support it. Thank you. Senator Brown for what purpose of your rise? Ask senator Henderson a question senator Anderson do you yield? I do. Senator Anderson looks like there is a train piece to this through wild life is this affect any existing tripass or is this. No sir this is only the training will come in only under upon renewal of the tracking license if they have not already had it. A lot of choppers already have this to do this on their own, this a portion that was requested at the the wild life people themselves. Do I have any further discussion debate? Senator Meredith for what purpose of your rise?   Thank you Mr. President I like to ask a question the bill sponsor please. Senator Anderson do you yield for question? I do. Senator Anderson is the Trappers Association as Senator Stine asked an earlier question about the wild life my question would be is the Trappers Association in support of this bill? Senator Meredith originally when we sat on the table with all the stake holders in this bill they were for what from unknown reason, I have a feeling it was purely financial. At the last, when we run this bill in 2013, they backed out. the last minute, and we're against this bill. They still are. But I have extended an invitation to them as this bill goes over to the house. If they have any thing that they would like to bring to the table again to make it a better bill, we'll be glad to listen to it. Follow up. You yield for follow up senator. I do. Thank you. Mr president, just one more question, senator Brown I brought one more training piece, is that going to have a financial impact to wild life for them to put on this training that currently they are not doing so they going to have to, is it going to be a financial piece to this to do this training as new trappers come online? Way that I understand it they will not cost more than is already there, there will be no additional financial responsibility for the wild life. Thank you Mr Present. Any further discussion or debate? Hearing none the question for the senate is the passage of the committee substitute Senate Bill 647 on its second reading. All in favor vote aye   Mr. President Senator Brown What purpose do you rise?   [xx] yield for a question. Senator Sanderson do you heel? I do. You're saying right now that the training that the trappers go true to go through is completely voluntary, but we are now going to mandate them to go through the training. And that would mean a fee, won't that mean an additional cost, and this Bill should have gone to the finance? Mr. President. Senator Apodaca for what purpose you rise? Mr. President I need to go home and I'm hungry, Senate Bill 647 must remove little bit from today's calendar and placed it on Wednesday's calendar of next week. Without objection, it's awarded. Senate bill 670. Clerk will read Senate bill 67, channel number for BOG members, Senator Apodaca recognized. Thank you Mr. President, I want to talk about important amendment, if may I You can Senator Clerk read. Senator Rapadoca moves to amend the bill. Senator Rapadoca is recognized to speak to the amendment. Thank you Mr. President members this amendment actually is the whole bill.

it is saying that you can serve no more than 12 years on the board of governors, whether it is consecutive or 2-4 year terms and another four year terms the maximum he serves is twelve years we have a lot of good people in the state, who would like to serve on the board of governors and I think twelve years is plenty I ask for your support. We have any discussion a bit on memo one, hearing nonequestion on for the senate adoption on memo one on favor say I those who vote no. Five seconds will be allowed for the voting. Clerk will record the vote. Daniel I Flock I. 49 having voted in the affirmative and zero in the negative amendment one is adopted the bill as amended is back before the body, senator Apodaka do you want to speak any further to the bill? Do we have a discussion or debate on the bill as ammended hearing none the question for the senate is the passage of committee substitute senate bill 670 as amended on second reading all in favor vote I oppose vote no, five seconds to be allowed for the voting and the clerk will open the vote. 49 having voted in the affirmative, and zero in the negative, the committee of substitute, senate bill 670 as amended passes it's second reading without objection be read a third time. North Carolina general assembly enact. Any discussion for the debate? Hearing none, question for the senate committee substitute senate Bill 670 as amended on its third reading, all in favor will say "aye" "Aye"e Oppose "no", the "ayes" have it, Committee Substitute Senate Bill 670 as amended passes its third reading, the amendment will be engrossed, it will be sent to the house. Senate bill 698 clerk will read. Senate bill 638 states that utility based club computing, senator Hughes is recognized. Thank you Mr. President, members of senate. This bill simply directs the state officer of information, technology services to conduct a study on both the and the cost saving associated with using cloud based systems in the state on North Carolina versus our current system of housing and data warehouse is another solar services, so I'd appreciate your support. We're having discussion or debate? Hearing none request for the senate is passage of Senate Bill bill 698 on its second reading all in favor will vote aye oppose will vote no, five seconds the bill to be out for the voting clerk will record the vote. Newton, Brian Newton. Brian aye, aye. 49 having voted in the affirmative and zero in the negative, senate bill 698 passes its second reading without objection will be read time. North Carolina General Assembly Enact. Any discussion or a debate? Hearing none, requesting for the senators to pass this Senate Bill 698 on its third reading, all in favor will say aye Aye Oppose no? The ayes have it Senate Bill 698 passes its third reading, it will be sent to the house. moving on to third reading Senate Bill 298, clerk will read. Senate Bill 298 School Bus Cameras/Civil Penalties. Senator McInnis is recognized thank you Mr. President, fellow members of the senate, this is a bill that we talked about yesterday and appreciate your support for the safety of our children who ride school buses to and from school everyday in North Carolina. We having discussion or debate? Mr. President. Senator McKissick for what purpose do you rise? speak on the bill. Senator McKissick has the floor to speak to the bill.  I understand the need for this bill because we want to certainly impose appropriate penalties upon those those special school buses and using these cameras now will help with that. This is picking up those situations where somebody on a camera is picked up in the vehicle where you can't see the person they [xx] obscured to allow people to go after those individuals. I do have a bit of a hard burn with the bill due to the fact that it's possible for somebody to use your car without your knowledge, authorization and consent, it could be small business that has a couple of kids on board, people go pick up a vehicle go drive it for the erand, pick up supplies and you may not know who in fact had it, and I guarantee you when that certition come to the mail for $500, and you go back and ask who was using the car then whether you're on a smaller business, on a farm, or in your home, nobody is going to face up. So I do have some hard bone above that particular possibility not withstanding those concerns I'm hoping that this bill can be fixed over in the house or maybe we can back and tweak it, if we see that it has potential problems So, I will go ahead and support, but I do have those serious concerns. Do we have any further discussion or debate? Hearing none, requesting for the senators to pass this Committee Substitute Senate Bill 298 as amended on its third reading,

all in favor will vote aye, oppose will vote no, five seconds to be allowed for the voting, clerk record the vote. Tilman "aye" Tillman "aye", 49 having voted in the affirmative and zero in the negative, the Committee Substitute Senate Bill 298 as amended passes its third reading, amendment will be engrossed to be sent to the house. Senate Bill 570. Mr. President. Senator Apodaca for what purpose do you rise? rise? Motion please. Senator Apodaca has floor for motion. Thank you Mr. President, Senate Bill 570 expulsion vote violation next on the calender has been removed from today's calender referred to the committee on judiciary two. Out of objection so ordered. I think that wraps up our calender for the day on the motion of the day of Senator Wells of Alexander Canada the chair is happy to extend courtesies of the gallery to the fourth grade class of Heidi Knight School in Alexander County, if you are with us today please stand to be recognized. Thank you for joining us. Upon the motion Senator Newton and Brian of Moscow Chair happy tom extend courtesy of the gallery to the fourth grade class of Rocky Mount Academy for friends from Rocky Mount Academy you are here please stand to be recognized. And upon the motion an senator Brown will also carry the [xx] extend courtesies of the gallery to the fourth grade class of Swansboro Elementary School. If you're with us stand to be recognized, thanks for joining us today. Mr. President. Senator Apodaca for what purpose do you rise? Motions please. Senator Apodaca has the floor for motions. Thank you Mr. President members madam Crocked also all the bills read in earlier from the different committees and such will be placed on the calender for Monday night except for two, senate bill 423 first to care family act, and senate bill 676 out of them help insurance is to be removed from money night calender and placed on two of this calendar place, the objection is so ordered.  Thank you, Mr. President, senate bill 336, uniform state state planning  is currently committed on finance, there is no financial impact it has been removed so, it is definitely removed and same to the we read Clerk will read senator Angel what did you share to committee submit the passage senate bill 419 Rep. Birgtom floor met favorable senate bill 578 committee substitute number one. tradition certain abuse investigation DCDE favorable. Senate bill 182, unfavorable as to bill, but favorable as committee substitute bill automatic licence plate readers. Senate bill 419, 578, 182 calender. Senator Meratove for what purpose of your rise? I send forth the committee report Mr. President. You can send forward your report senator. Clerk will read. Senator [xx] for insurance committee submit the passage. Senate Bill 676 on favor bill the favorite committee substitute bill title to enact provide coverage for the payment optimism and spectrum and disorder. Senate Bill 120 DOR license processing fees favorable Senate Bill 665 unclaim life insurance benefits, favorable. Senate Bill 667 principle basic reserving favorable. Senate Bill 668 auto insurance allow optimal enhancement favorable. Senate Bill 120, finance Senate Bill 665, 667, 668 calender. Senator Meredith did you have, there we go, thank you.

Do we have any other report to standing committees? Now at this time would like say thank you to our pages for the week, pages we know you have been busy thank you for serving us this week we hope you come back to see us. Notices or announcement. Senator Newton for what purpose do you rise? well this is the appropriate time Mr. President I would like to enforce senatorial statement and have a moment fail for prove You can send forward your statement senator you have the floor for a point of personal privellege Thank you may already been submitted and I think it is already been submitted Mr. President You have the floor senator Thank you Mr. President, collegues this weekend is big day and my district and the district for senator Brian we have a very special institution in our district Eastern North Carolina School for the Deaf and it celebrates its 50th year. And I wanted to commemorate that and educate you just briefly about that. The service that they provide to the citizen of the state is extensive for those in the community of the death and the hard to hear. We have another excellent school and my colleague senator Daniels district the original school for the deaf, but 50 years ago a little before that it was recognized that there needed to be a similar school in the eastern part of the state so that folks did not have to travel all the way to Morgenton a couple of years ago we looked at closing some of these residential schools and eastern North Carolina school was on the chopping brock and fortunately senator Stevens and others were able to be reason with and they decided to study these schools to exactly what they were doing. Result of that study were very clear. The service that was being provided the state of North Carolina was actually getting an excellent burgen for the money it was spending and enhancing the lives these children preparing them for how they are going to live our society with their lose of hearing or their difficult hearing, so I want to rise and commemorate them for the hard they have done and the staff and the student over the last 50 years they have been a very important part of my community and there are a lot of folks there that graduate from that school and reside in the center Daniel I know has a similar situation in his area, and they will really enrich our community. So, if you would take a moment and read the statement I won't do the whereas is, but I want to congratulate them on their milestone. Thank you, Senator. Senator Apodaca, for what purpose do you rise? A moment of personal privilege if I might. You have the floor Senator. Thank you, Mr. President. I want to personally thank Senator Alexander for sending up a Trail Mix Fruit and Nut Bar. I was having a Snickers moment there with no lunch, and everybody else thanks him too. I also want to congratulate Senator Alexander. He's gone now, but he has a new grandson. A healthy young man I understand, and he's very proud of him. So, I think we should congratulate him if he ever comes back, thank you. Thank you, Senator. Senator Tarte, for what purpose of your rise? Moment of personal privilege. Senator you have the floor. Thank you. I just wanted to speak on the Senatorial Statement put forward by Senator Newton. For the members that may or may not now, I'm your appointed member of the North Carolina Council for the Deaf and Hard of Hearing. This is in my third year and I appreciate that appointment by Senator Burger[sp?] Just one side I want to to leave you back with, the important of this facility in this service that we do. That I learned Deaf kids no public school, graduate in astonishing rate of only 10%, most of the kids get lost in our traditional systems by this service in this school that we provide their graduation rate for the exact population of kids, a part exceeds the normal average graduation rate across the state. They had a graduation rate of 90%, this is an valuable service that we provide and I thank you all for supporting it. Any other notices or announcements, any further business? Any further business to come for the senate. Now the chair recognizes Senator Berger for a motion. Thank you Mr. President, I move that the Senate do now adjourn subject to stipulations set forth in Senate Rule 24.1 the receipt of committee reports and messages from the house to reconvene on Monday. April 27 2015 at 7 PM The motion of the senator is now adjourned substitute to the stipulation stated by senator Burger to reconvene Monday April 27, at 7 PM second by senator Lybon on favor say

aye, Aye, opposed no, the aye senate is adjourned