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House | June 10, 2014 | Chamber | House Session

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The ?? will close the doors. The prayer will be offered by Representative Ted Davis. Members and visitors in the gallery, please stand and please remain standing for the pledge of allegiance. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Would everyone please bow their heads and pray with me? Heavenly father, thank you for allowing us to live in a country where we have the freedom to choose those individuals who would represent us in government and those elected officials have the freedom to make the very important decisions that affect our daily life. As we carry on the duties of our office, give each one of us the courage to do the right thing and not base our decisions on where the political wind might be blowing at that particular moment. Help us to put our political differences aside and give us the strength and the patience to work together – Democrats and Republicans for the benefit of our constituents and the preservation of our great state as a wonderful place to live and raise our families. I humbly ask these things, lord, in the holy name of your son ?? Jesus Christ. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore is recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, the journal from Monday, June the 9th 2014 has been examined and found to be correct moves [privilege?] [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore moves that the journal from June 9th be approved as written. All in favor, say Aye. All oppose, no. The Ayes have it, the journal is approved as written, petitions, ??, papers, addresses general assembly of the house. Reports of standing committee’s permanent subcommittees. Representatives Stone and Warren are recognized to send forth the committee report. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representatives Stone and Warren for the Government Committee, Senate Bill 463: Jail Dormitory Minimum Standards. Favorable is to House Committee Substitute Number 2, Unfavorable is to House Committee Substitute Number 1. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House Committee Substitute Number 2, Counter. House Committee Substitute Number 1, Unfavorable Counter. Ladies and Gentlemen, upon motion of the gentleman from Alexander County, Representative Hollo. The Chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to his lovely wife Barbara. Barbara, please stand and let us welcome you. Introduction of bills and resolutions. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Setzer, House resolution 1259: Soldier’s Reunion Anniversary. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Rules, Calendar and Operations of the House. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Dobson, House resolution 1260: Honor Officers Protecting Natural Resources. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Calendar Pursuant, Rule 32(a) for Thursday on June 12th. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Special message from the Senate. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Special message from the Senate. Senate joint resolution 879, the joint resolution honoring the life and memory of Zebulon Doyle Alley, former member of the General Assembly. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Calendar Pursuant, Rule 32(a) for immediate consideration. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Members, please take your seats. Senate joint resolution 879. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senate joint resolution 879, the joint resolution honoring the life and memory of Zebulon Doyle Alley, former member of the General Assembly. Senate resolves, house concurring. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The clerk will read the resolution in its entirety. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Whereas, Zebulon Doyle Alley was born on August 9, 1928, in Sylva, North Carolina, to Doyle Davis Alley and Edith Purcell Alley; and Whereas, Zebulon Doyle Alley attended the public schools of Haywood County, North Carolina

Speaker: …before transferring to Oak Ridge Military Academy, and whereas of 1948, Zebelian, Doyle, Alley, joined the United States Army. He served until 1950, when he entered the enlisted reserves and whereas, Zebelian, Doyle and Alley were called back to duty when the Korean War broke out, and served as a forward observer in the 38th infantry regimen. On March 3, 1951, he was involved in an intense battle in which he distinguished himself heroically, risking his own life for his fellow soldiers. He was seriously injured, but recovered, and was awarded the Bronze Star V for valor and the Purple Heart for service. And whereas, Zebelian, Doyle and Alley returned from the war to complete his undergraduate and legal education at the University of NC at Chapel Hill. And whereas Zebelian, Doyle and Alley, was assistant director of the institute of government of the Univ. of NC, practiced law over former Chief Justice Joe Granch, served as State Attorney to the Federal Land Bank, and practiced law in Waynesville, NC. And whereas, Zebelian, Doyle and Alley was elected to the NC Senate, in 1971, representing a district that included his hometown of Waynesville. And whereas, Zebelian, Doyle and Alley went on to serve the citizens state in other capacities, including as the governor’s legislative liason, commissioner of the NC Board of Alcohol Beverage Control, commissioner of the NC courts commission, and chair of the state capital foundation board of directors, among others. And whereas, Zebelian, Doyle and Alley had an unmatched career in private practice as lobbyists, having been ranked #1, on the list of most influential lobbyists by the Center for Public Policy Research for 16 consecutive years. And whereas, Zebelian, Doyle and Alley passion was pro bono representation of the state’s veterans for over 25 years. And whereas, Zebelian, Doyle and Alley passed away on Thursday, July 11, 2013, at the age of 84. And whereas, Zebelian, Doyle and Alley is survived by his sons: Doyle D. Alley II and Randal G. Alley, brothers John H. Alley and Charles P. Alley, and granddaughter, Miranda Alley. And therefore, be it resolved by the Senate, the House of Representatives concurring, Section 1 the general insignia honors the memory of Zebelian, Doyle and Alley, and expresses appreciation for his life and service to the people of his community and this state. Section 2, the General Assembly extends its heartfelt sympathy to the family of Zebelian, Doyle and Alley for the loss of a beloved family member. Section 3, the Secretary of State shall transmit a certified copy of this resolution to the family of Zebelian, Doyle and Alley. Section 4, this resolution is effective upon ratification. Chairman: Representative West, please state your purpose. Representative West: To debate the resolution. Chairman: Okay, the gentleman is recognized to debate the resolution West: Thank you Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. It is a great honor for me to be here today to speak about not only my friend, but I venture to say a friend of everyone on this floor and in the gallery today. Zeb was a true friend: if you had an issue, Zeb had an issue – that was the kind of friend he was. Zeb was a very proud man. He was proud of his Cherokee heritage. He use to come into my office and tell the story of his grandmother Percell, who was raised on the Indian Nation, on what is now Oklahoma. When Zeb was a young man, his grandmother Percell came back to Waynesville and was visiting everyone. Zeb did not know what to talk to her about and so he went up to her and said, “Grandmother Percell, I guess you have been a life long Democrat.” And she said, “Well no Zeb, I am a registered Republican.” Zeb did not know what to say – his head kind of dropped. His grandmother looked at him and told him not to worry as she would always vote for the man. Zeb said, “she’s a Repbulican.” Zeb was very proud of being a veteran. He was instrumental in creating the rest home for the veterans. He secured some of the first money for that project. Zeb was very proud of his mountain heritage. He use to love to tell the story about his uncle, Felix Eugene Alley, who was a judge in Waynesville and was a….

He came to be a judge and later on he served in this body, and he loved to tell the story, Zeb loved to tell the story about when Judge Alley was a young man up in Cashiers Valley there was this lady that came in with her parents in the summer. People came to Cashiers Valley in the summer to spend the summer in Cashiers valley. And they were all trying to court this girl. And so when Judge Alley got a little older he wrote a book and in that book he told the story about his courtship in Cashiers Valley and it was called the Ballad of Kidder Cole. And Zeb would love to come to my office and he could recite that ballad word for word. I can't do that, but I want to read that Ballad for Zeb. It's called A Ballad of Kidder Cole. My name is Felix Eugene Alley, My best girl lives in Cashiers Valley; She's the joy of my soul, And her name is Kidder Cole. Oh, my sweet little Kidder girl, you cause my head to spin and whirl. I'm yours and you're mine, long as the sun and stars still shine. I don't know, it must have been by chance. Excuse me. Way last fall when I went to a dance, I was to dance with Kidder the live-long night but I got my time beat by Charlie Wright. If I ever have to have a fight, I hope it will be with Charlie Wright, for he was the ruin of my soul when he beat my time with Kidder Cole. When the dance was over I went away to bide my time till another day when I could cause trouble and pain and blight to sadden the soul of Charlie Wright. But she came back the following spring, and oh, how I made my banjo ring. It helped me get my spirit right, to beat the time of Charlie Wright. Kidder came home the first of June, and I sang my song and played my tune. I commenced trying with all my might to put one over on Charlie Wright. When the speaking was over we had a dance, and then and there I found my chance to make my peace with Kidder Cole, and beat Charlie Wright; confound his soul. Charlie came in an hour or so, but when he saw me with Kidder he turned to go back to his home with a saddened soul, for I'd beat his time with Kidder Cole. I've always heard the old folks say that every dog will have his day. And now all of Charlie's joy has passed for I've succeeded in beating him at last. Oh, yes Kidder is sweet, and it won't be long until we meet, at her home in Cashiers Valley and she'll change her name to Alley. Zeb loved that poem, or that ballad, he always would recite it. And when we were out of session, there was not a weekend went by that I didn't get a call from Zeb. He would talk and he would talk and he would bring me up to speed on everything in Raleigh. And when he'd get ready to go, he'd always say Roger, I love you. And I would always say back I love you too, Zeb. I commend the resolution to you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Daughtry, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speak on the resolution. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the resolution. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I can't speak any, I can't carry anything, I couldn't say anything that could beat what Roger just told you about Zeb, but I had known him for so many years even before I got to the legislator, he was famous for his lobbying ability. He was the only guy I know that was a, he was a solid democrat, but he was a lobbyist in such a way that if he told you something, he would tell you the truth about an issue and you could take it to the bank. You could vote your conscience, but Zeb would be as truthful as he could be to whoever he was lobbying. I think he's the best lobbyist that's ever been in this building. He was well liked not only by people in his party, but by everybody that knew him. You couldn't help but like him. And I can't remember any jokes that he told me that I could tell in this chamber, but I enjoyed going to his house. He cooked wonderful meals for many people in those days when lobbyists could cook meals for you. That was a long time ago. Wish they could now. But I can only say that I have never met anyone that I enjoy his company as much as I did Zeb and I certainly would also commend the resolution to you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Michaux, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak on the resolution. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the resolution.

Very much that could be said 'cause most of you knew Zeb one way or the other. I remember many of the things he talked about. Particularly his days with the Young Democrats and how they went to all these conventions and things like that. And I think the thing I remember, one of the things I remember most about him is sittin' down there in the snack bar with Roger West and giving Roger West more than he could ask for. And it amazed me because Roger being of the stripe that he is, that is a Republican, and Zeb being of the stripe he was, which was a Democrat, I never saw two folks who got along so well together. It always gave me hope that one day, it would rub off on a whole lot of us. But be that as it may, one thing about Zeb, Zeb always, always came to me and said, " Now you, were in the Korean Conflict." I said, "Yeah, Zeb, I was there too." He said, "But I was over there." I said, "Yeah, Zeb, and I was over here." In the meantime though, if you ever wanted to know anything about anything going on, Zeb was the person to do it. Most of the lobbyist that we have around here are very honest people and you can count on their word. Zeb was more than extraordinary in that he always knew his subject, he always knew what he was talking about, he always was truthful, and he never let you down. This body and this state will miss Zeb Alley and we should all pay honor and homage to him. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Wilkins, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak to the resolution, Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the resolution. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker. If you never received a US Flag Lapel Pin from Zeb Alley, the only reason you didn't was that you never walked into this building. I have no idea, Representative West may know, how many flag pins Zeb gave away. A million? You make your guess. But he was, he was quite proud of his time in the military. He was quite proud that he was able to give back to a country that had given so much to him. Zeb had a cat named Wilkins. The cat was not named for this Representative Wilkins. It was named for former Representative Mike Wilkins who gave Zeb the cat. So, Wilkins sort of ruled the house and the fact is Wilkins was always rather ornery. Zeb never was. He was the perfect gentleman. And I commend this resolution in his memory to you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Ross please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speak on the resolution. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Then gentleman is recognized to debate the resolution. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. Zeb Alley is a man who you can truly say that you never heard someone say a bad word about. I think he was universally liked by everyone, admired by everyone. I knew him fairly well through Roger West, who he hung out with a lot. But I also had some kinship with him because he was a Korean War Veteran. Now I was too young to be a Korean War Veteran but I did serve in Korea, but not 'til 30 years after the conflict had ended. But Zeb was probably most proud of his service to this country. He was an American first. And to have been wounded in that conflict and to do what he did, he pretty much personifies what we talk about when we have our resolutions commemorating our veterans. And you may not know this, the Korean War's known as the forgotten war. And history really hasn't given it the coverage that it perhaps should have because it was still people like Zeb Alley who went over there and bled and died and suffered and I can tell you Korea[RECORDING ENDS]

Harsh environment. In the winter it's weather is dominated by Siberia, and in the winter the cold just eats right through you. I cannot imagine being out and having to fight in that kind of weather day after day. It was so cold. I remember when I was up on the DMZ, in a bunker for a time, the PX truck would come once a day and I could get a Coke off a that, leave it outside for a minute, and drink it with ice in it. I've never seen such cold. In the summer, it was brutally hot. Monsoons, they do have monsoon rain there. And you'll have a little creek, and it will become a raging river within minutes of the rain starting to pour down. Korea has come a long way. They've had great GDP growth, but back then it had been denuded by the Japanese during World War II, and prior to, there were no big trees. You could be walking across country and suddenly the most vile odor would almost overcome you. They had rice paddies for centuries. It was just an incredible place for me. I used to think about how do the people that actually fought there, like Zeb Alley, how do they make it? Their sacrifice, his sacrifice, can never be repaid. And he was a forward observer. If you don't know what a forward observer is that's an artillery spotter who is up on the front in the most dangerous areas, sometimes maybe before the front, trying to find targets to radio back to the guns to shoot at. And there's nobody the enemy soldier wants to kill more than a forward observer, because the forward observer is the one that reigns that steel and explosions down on them. So they are, they are sought out by snipers and enemy soldiers. And to have survived such an ordeal, and come back here, and still have been the man he was is just inspiring to me. And I would just say this to pages and young people, I hope you will take the time to educate yourself, because nobody can really give you an education. It's something you have to give yourself. That you will take the time to seek out and learn about some of the people who have preceded you as great Americans. And to understand what you have to breathe free in America. And people like Zeb Alley are the ones that gave this to us, and I cannot support this resolution any greater. Thank you Mr. Speaker. SPEAKER CHANGES: Further discussion, further debate. If not, the question before the House is the passage of Senate Joint Resolution 879 on its second reading. All in favor vote aye. All opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. All members wishing to record, please do so. The clerk will let the machine record the vote. 116 having voted affirmative, none in the negative. Senate Joint Resolution 879 has passed its second reading and without objection. Will be read a third time. SPEAKER CHANGES: The Senate resolves, the House concurring. SPEAKER CHANGES: Further discussion, further debate. If not, the question before the House is the passage of the Senate Joint Resolution 879 on its third reading. All in favor say aye. All opposed no. The ayes have it. Senate Joint Resolution 879 has passed its third reading. The Resolution will be enrolled. Ladies and gentlemen, on behalf of Roger West, and all of the members, the chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to a number of family members for Zeb. His son Doyle Alley, his sons, Doyle and Randall Alley, granddaughter Miranda, father-in-law Dale Hoover, daughter-in-law Anne Hoover Alley, brother Charlie Alley, sister-in-law Kathy Alley, nephew and law partner Chip Killian, and many other law partners and friends from this general assembly that he loved so much. Welcome, accept our condolences, and thanks for blessing us with his friendship.

[APPLAUSE] If we can please have the Pages come to the front of the chamber so that we can properly introduce you. While the Pages are coming forward, upon motion of Representative Donny Lambeth from Forsyth County. The Chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to Katie Brand. Representative Lambeth's daughter. Katie please stand and let us welcome you. [APPLAUSE] Pages, as the clerk calls your name if you could please stand forward and wave so that we can connect the name with a face. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Sierra Acklerman, Brunswick County. Hailey Bilk, Guilford. Lauren Bennet, Wake. Elizabeth Bryan, Mecklenburg. Alexa Bumgardner, Wilkes. Lauren Chamby, Guilford. Julia Crane, Transylvania. Desia Denny, Gates. Rachel Harris, Wake. Tyler Cop, Brunswick. Mary Mannon, New Hanover. Kate Maxwell, Cumberland. Caroline May, Wake. Heaven McNeil, Cumberland. Abby Miscu, Wake. Alex Monroe, Wake. Ariel Morhenny, Wake. Christine Norton, Wake. Taylor Norton, Wake. Zachias Raspberry, Lenoir. Tate Repudney, Wake. Matt Russell, Wake. Caroline Smith, Mecklenburg. Cassie Suitor, Wake. Shannon Stoleman, Wake. Halley Turner, Mecklenburg. Chad Wiley, Wake. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Pages welcome. We all, you all picked a busy week to be here. You'll see that in committee and you'll see it on the floor on Thursday. You guys, as I told you before, we started session, have a little better deal. Y'all get to get out of here at three o'clock on Thursday, for some reason I don't think we will. But you have an opportunity to learn a lot about the process, because what we're doing this week is the most important thing that we do in this General Assembly and it's passing the budget and making sure that we fund operations. So, hopefully you'll pay a little bit of attention, learn a little bit and be able to share these stories with your family and friends when you return. Thank you all Members. Let's properly welcome them. [APPLAUSE] Thank you. You may return to your stations. House Bill 1080, the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House Bill 1080, a bill to be entitled, "An Act Removing Certain Described Property from the Corporate Limits of the Town of Wather". General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Millis, further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of House Bill 1080 on its third reading. All in favor vote 'aye', all opposed vote 'no'. The clerk will open the vote. [PAUSE] The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 110 having voted in the affirmative, none in the negative. House Bill 1080 has passed its third reading, will be sent to the Senate. House Bill 1067. The Clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Committee Substitute for House Bill 1067. A Bill to entitle an act to de-annex two described tracts from the corporate limits of the Town of Murphy. General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. Representative West, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the bill, Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. This will de-annex approximately six and a half acres in the city limits of Murphy requested by the town of Murphy. No opposi-[RECORDING ENDS]

To the bill, I appreciate your support. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate. If not, the question before the house is the passage of House Committee substitute to House Bill 1067 on it's second reading. All in favor vote aye, all opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. All members wishing to record, please do so. The clerk will ?? machine record the vote. 114 having voted affirmative, none in the negative. The House Committee substitute to House Bill 1067 has passed it's second reading and remains on the calendar. Ladies and gentlemen, these next two votes are voice votes. You will not have to be at your seats. House bill 1134 the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House Bill 1134. A bill to revise the requirements for a petition submitted to Cleveland County by property owners seeking county financing of road improvements. The General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, members, this is a local bill for Cleveland County, the entire local delegation is in agreement. I would urge your support. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Pierce, the chair understands you wish to be recorded as having voted aye on House Bill 1180. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes, Mr. Speaker. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman will be recorded as voting aye. Further discussion, further debate on House Bill 1134. If not, the question before the house is the passage of House Bill 1134 on it's second reading. All in favor say aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] All opposed no. The ayes have it. House Bill 1134 has passed it's second reading and without objection will be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate. If not, the question before the house is the passage of House Bill 1134 on its third reading. All in favor say aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] All opposed no. The ayes have it. House Bill 1134 has passed its third reading and will be sent to the Senate. Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to move ahead in the calendar without objection to House Bill 1043, the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Committee substitute for House Bill 1043. A bill to be entitled an act to clarify the statutes related to the use of prequalification in public construction contracting, as stated by the Joint Purchase and Contract Study Committee. The General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Before we begin debate on this bill ladies and gentlemen, the chair would ask any members who intend to offer amendments to House Bill 1031 or to House Bill 1201 to have those amendments in possession of the clerk by 3:45. Representative Arp, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Ladies and gentlemen, this bill, House Bill 1043, comes out of a study committee. It deals with the prequalification of contractors. Basically what it does is state that North Carolina citizens and government benefit when more qualified contractors and subcontractors bid on public construction work. There was a good study committee, passed out a unanimous, we worked on the bill and I don't see any opposition. I look for your support, please. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Holley, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I want to say this is a solid piece of legislation and is written up quite well and I support this bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate. If not, the question before the house is the passage of the House Committee substitute to House Bill 1043 on it's second reading. All in favor vote aye, all opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will ?? machine record the vote. 116 having voted in the affirmative, none in the negative, the House Committee substitute to House Bill 1043 has passed its second reading and without objection will be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate. If not, the question before the house is the passage of the House Committee substitute to House Bill 1043 on it's third reading. All in favor say aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] All opposed say no. The ayes have it, the House Committee substitute to House Bill 1043 has passed its third reading and will be sent to the senate. House Bill 1092. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Committee substitute for House Bill 1092. A bill to be entitled an act to provide a mechanism for enforcing payment of the criminal mediation fee as recommended by the Legislative Research Commission's Committee on Judicial Efficiency and Effective Administration of Justice and allow the conference of chief district judges to prescribe uniform statewide presumptive guidelines for the computation of retroactive child support obligations. The General Assembly of North Carolina enacts.

[SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Davis please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The Gentleman's recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this bill addresses the payment of the $60 fee that is charged for criminal mediation. Under the present system that we have, when this fee is implemented, a judge has the authority to excuse the fee, but the judge doesn't have any authority to enforce the payment of the fee. And a lot of times what happens is somebody might go through mediation and it goes on, it goes on, it goes on and then finally if the mediation doesn't work out, then it's supposed to go back to the District Attorney for prosecution and the District Attorney tries to contact the witness. The witness is either forgotten about it, doesn't care about it, died, moved. So, the bottom line is, they can't get the $60. So, in an effort to give some sort of 'meat' to the statute, to allow the collection of that money, this statute provides that when they enter the mediation, before they sign on, they are told, "You are gonna have to pay this $60 fee as part of the mediation process." And then if the mediation is completed and is successful then they will be charged the $60 fee, which has to be done within 45 days of when the mediation has been completed. If they don't pay the money, then it will go back to the District Attorney's office, and they will prosecute it. So, hopefully this will give what is not there now, and that is something to encourage people to pay the mediation fee, and I would ask you to support that. The second section of the bill was a [?] amendment offered by Representative Rick Glazier, which I can send it to you during the judiciary subcommittee where this was heard. This has to deal with the child support guidelines that are in effect with our statutes. And as it stands now, the child support guidelines deal with presumptions of amount of child support that a parent, a non-custodial parent, will pay for his children, taking into consideration, their income and the mother's income. What this does is it also gives the judges the authority to consider the amount of retroactive child support. There is some discrepancy in how it's handled now in that the case law says that when it comes to retroactive child support you're really supposed to have a hearing. You're supposed to go into how much money is really spent on that child for their needs and a judge makes a determination of what the retro amount should be. But after the guidelines went into effect, most judges simply say, "OK. I have found your obligation to be X. It's been Y number of months since the action was brought. So, you multiply Y times X and that's gonna be your child support arrearage." So, it really kind of left it in limbo about how a court would compute that. But this will add clarity to that and it'll specify that the judge will determine that amount, based upon the child support determination. And I commend you that you support that as well. I'll be happy to answer any questions, if there are any. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the Lady from Surry, Representative Stevens rise. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The Lady is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I understand, I've lit up quite a few email boxes on my opposition in proposed amendment here. And I will tell you that the amendment I have goes beyond what this bill is about and it is something we are going to take up. But, I am standing to encourage your support of this bill, knowing that Representative Davis understands my concerns and will be working with me. [SPEAKER CHANGES] May I respond, Mr. Speaker? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentleman from New Hanover wishes to debate the bill a second time? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes, sir, I am. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for that purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker. I would just like to commend Representative Stevens for working with me on this. And I will try to work with her as best I can on her amendment. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House, is the passage of House Bill 1092 on its second reading. So many as favor the passage of the bill will vote, 'aye', those opposed will vote, 'no'. The clerk will open the vote. [pause] The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 113 having voted in the affirmative and one in the negative. The House Committee Substitute to House Bill 1092 has passed its second reading and will, without objection, be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman from New Hanover, Representative Davis, your light is on, does the gentleman wish to debate the bill again? [SPEAKER CHANGES] No sir, thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House, is the passage of [RECORDING ENDS]

Substitute for House Bill 1092 on its third reading. So many as favor the passage of the bill will please say Aye. Those oppose, no. The Ayes have it, and the bill passes on its third reading. It will be sent to the senate. House bill 1069, the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Committee substitute for House Bill 1069, a bill to be entitled an act to amend the unemployment insurance laws, as recommended by the joint legislative oversight committee on unemployment insurance. General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady from Davie, Representative Howard is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank You, Mr. Speaker and Members of the house, we had a really good vote on ?? on Thursday and I would just ask that we would continue to support the legislation that’s before you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further Discussion, Further Debate. For what purpose does the gentleman from Durham, Representative Luebke rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak for everything. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank You, Mr. Speaker. Members of the house, I would agree with chair Howard that we had a good debate on this bill on Thursday and the points remain and ?? there’s an additional point, I think we should let it go based on Thursday’s debate. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further Discussion, Further Debate. If not, the question before the house is the passage of the house committee substitute to House Bill 1069 on its third reading. So many as favor the passage of the bill will vote Aye. Those oppose, will vote No. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 77 having voted in the affirmative and 37 having voted in the negative, the bill passes on its third reading and will be sent to the senate. Members, a motion of Representative Jordan from Ashe and Watauga Counties, the Chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to President David [Lindsey] and the North Carolina veterinary medical association from ??, North Carolina. If you all will please stand so that we could welcome you. Members ??, The Representative for Beaufort County, the Chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to [Art] Martinez of the Emmanuelle Christian School in Washington, Sandy Arballo and Carl Arballo of P.S. Jones Middle School in Washington escorted by Herman Gaskins of Beaufort County. If you all will please stand so that we may welcome you. And a motion from gentleman from Lee County Representative Stone, the Chair would like to extend the courtesies of the gallery to the Lion’s Club Members of Lee County, [Rainey] Turner and Tommy [Mun]. If you all will please stand so that we may welcome you. House Bill 1201, the clerk will read. The house will please come to order. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House Bill 1201, a bill to be entitled an act to exempt admission charges to county agricultural fairs from the sales tax imposed on an admission charge to an entertainment activity. General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Stokes, Representative Holloway rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Explain the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank You, Mr. Speaker. Members of the body, we had a very thorough debate on this bill last week. I went home over the weekend and had a lot of phone calls and lot of questions and I expected a lot of questions to be sitting around the fare. However, my reference to Rick Flair, the wrestler, prompted a bunch of questions. And folks, before asking me they said you in a very enduring way referred some of your colleagues to Rick Flair and his little cast of wiley characters that he ran around with. They say which one of them is Rick Flair. So I scratched my head and I thought for a minute and I said, well it had to be Representative Edgar Starnes because he had me in a real good figure for leg lock which was Rick Flair’s special move, but then I got to look at his hair.

And I realized he couldn’t be Rick Flair, he doesn’t have the hair for it. So, Edgar you’re gonna have to get your wig out if you want to be the nature boy. But on a serious note, folks this is a very important issue to us, particularly in rural counties and these fairs provide an opportunity as was pointed out last week to allow kids to see farm animals, to have ?? groups to get involved and these groups are run by Lions clubs, Rotary clubs, American legions. I wanna point out, these folks don’t have paid employees and the money that they raise from these act fares, where’s that money invested? They’re invested back in the community. There are no full profit companies that are gonna be getting these exemptions and this is just really big for us, folks in the rural parks of North Carolina. Will some of these fares go by the wayside? My answer to that is, absolutely. And I don’t wanna see these fares fall by the wayside. I just ask you to just vote and in the words of Weiss, we had a good vote last week. I hope we get a good vote today and be glad to take any questions. Thank You so much. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Duane Hall, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Switch my vote to No on 1069, Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman re-records to having voted No. Representative Terry, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I’d like to be voted as No for 1069. Thank you, sir. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady be recorded as voting no. Representative Pierce, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speak on the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the amendment the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We’ve had a lot of debate on this bill and we had some who had differences of opinion, we do understand that and what today we’re dealing with county fairs and it really benefits a lot of us who are in the chamber today. ?? comes from ?? county steal a statement those communities and the young people along with other groups get a chance to experience a farm life and all that goes on in our rural communities. And we just asked if a chance today to give these fairs an opportunity to continue to operate and I wanna thank Representatives Holloway, ?? and Dobson for their words last week and we just ask you all just to work on this today, we know another day is coming but for today, let’s just focus on this and give us a chance to move this piece forward and I really appreciate that. Thank You, Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Terry, please state your purpose. Representative Stone, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank You, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen, I rise to speak in support of the bill. It brings back so many memories growing up and opportunities that so many kids in my community may not had had we not had the Lee County fair. I can remember in Kindergarten walking from our New ?? School going all the way to the fair grounds to see the animals and bring back the memories of going through and looking at the jams, the jellies and all the animals that live in the city we would never see. It was important because as I look back there was a lot of kids that would never have the opportunity to go at all. What are the things our fairs have always done is we allowed all the kids to come in for free, our handicapped are allowed to come in for free, and our seniors have been allowed to come in for free. So we, as the Lee County community really accepted our community to come and take a look. We do a demonstration every year of how tobacco is cured, we actually have a ?? mill to show the youngsters how we actually cut wood from many year ago. The other things is, so much has already been said is our Lions Club members are all volunteers, there is no full profit. There are all retired business community leaders that come together to donate their time and work hard. All that money goes back to our community. So, I’m not saying there’s no other non-profits that are deserving. I’ll just say that this non-profit has a higher standard than any other non-profits that I’m aware of. So I wanna ask you to support this bill today so our community fairs can go forth and continue to provide the great services to all of our community citizens who may not have that opportunity if we didn’t have this once a year event. We had a great vote last week, and I’d ask you to support this bill today as well. Thank You. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Jeter, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak.

The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I won’t tell my normal South Carolina education joke. But, as I read this bill, we’re talking about an exemption of the sales tax imposed upon an admission charge to a county fair. So, if that’s what we’re talking about, let’s say its a ten dollar ticket to a county fair. I believe Mecklenburg County probably has the highest sales tax in the state. About seven and a half percent. So that means on a ten dollar ticket we’re talking about a sales tax of seventy-five cents. If you can sit here and honestly tell me we’re going to close agricultural affairs because of a surcharge for twenty-five to fifty cents per ticket, this sales tax isn’t the problem with that agricultural affairs. This body made a decision, good, bad, or indifferent, of where we were going to go with tax policy. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mister Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Stone, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] See if the gentleman will yield for a question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I’d be happy to yield. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you there. My question relates to if you give the ticket to someone, as we give so many away in our community, you still have to pay the sales tax. So the question becomes when you’re helping your community as we help so many youngsters in school, with so many seniors in our community, so many people with disabilities, the blind, who pays the sales tax on a ticket that’s given away for free because in North Carolina you still have to pay the sales tax. [SPEAKER CHANGES] It is my understanding, Representative Stone, that tickets given away free of charge do not have to pay sales tax. That is what my understanding is from the finance group. I can be wrong but that’s my understanding. There has to be an actual cash transaction to implement a sales tax. I go back to my point though, we’ve made a decision, good, bad, or indifferent, if went to undo, start pulling the string on a shirt, and say, “Hey, you know what. This is important to my group. Hey I got an idea, let’s start not charging sales tax to truckers because that’s real important to me, too. And then next week we’re going to do it for lawyers because I know there’s a bunch of lawyers here. Every time we start talking about legal fees, they start talking like they’re billing by the hour in here.” You know, we’ve got to decide are we going to do this or are we not going to do this. And, to me, this is a prime case where we have to say no. We’ve made a decision, we have to say no. I’d ask us to honor a tax policy we implemented last year. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Ladies and gentleman, we’re going to take a vote on this bill at 4 pm. But please be respectful of other people’s time that would like to speak to the bill. Representative Charles Graham, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speak to the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mister Speaker. I just want to stand up and support what we’re doing here today. And I’m going to support it because it’s the thing we need to do to support our rural, agricultural affairs in the state of North Carolina. We have an opportunity here to show good will to our rural counties, to our poor ?? communities, and to children, senior citizens, the disabled, the blind, all those individuals who would not have this opportunity if, in my opinion, we don’t support this legislation. Here’s an opportunity to say, to our rural counties, “We support you.” This is rural vs. urban. Our rural counties need this. I encourage you to support it. Give our folks, who had this opportunity, one time a year to go experience the opportunities that are provided at these events. And I ask you to seriously consider this and I encourage your support. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Warren, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mister speaker, I’d like to ask the Representative Holloway a question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Holloway, does the gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes I do. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Holloway, I came to Raleigh to try to do the right thing. And sometimes it gets clouded, am I’m very clouded on this issue. Because I almost hate to admit Representative Jeter took the words right out of my mouth. I don’t understand apparently the bill because, in my mind, not to reiterate everything he said, this is a part of a tax revision plan. And if you give away a ticket there is no financial transaction. So a tax on nothing would be nothing. But I keep hearing people say this is going to prevent kids coming into the…

Fair for free, this is going to close down the fairs. I really don't understand, are we talking about a tax on the financial transaction of the purchase of a ticket or is there something more extenuating that I don't understand because I would like to support the bill, I voted against it. But if I am missing something here you need to clarify that for me because I would like to do right thing. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you for the question, Representative Warren. I want to just first start off by saying that if folks in here believe that this will be only exemption that will be floating out there in the land of exemptions, they are wrong. The Senate just gave one, Representative Stone to the law house. You might be getting ready to vote for some more exemptions, so you better read your bills really closely. The reason this is really gonna hurt communities is you have got rural area that are not making much money on these fairs, you got groups like the lion's club, the rotary club, the American legions - these guys, it's all volunteer, they are not set up to have to do the paper work, to do all the things that has to go into collecting these sale taxes remitted into the state and when you have to start increasing ticket process and they will to make up for the tax. It could start to turn people, even though I realize Mecklenburg County has got a big bunch of sales tax, if they wanna donate a portion out of the state to pay for us rural countess we will be happy to let him do that, but these folks are not the most wealthy folks. It’s once a year, I respect ?? tax bill, I respect our tax reform bill, I respect other non-profits but I would argue that these non-profits are little bit different, again volunteers put the money right back in the community, these are not folks waking out carrying cash out by the bags. They are not at all and what they do carry out they give back to the community and I do agree this is kind of Urban vs Rural and I understand from an urban county, you don't come to the Stokes County fair, you don't come to fairs like in Representative stone’s district. We love to have you but it’s probably too far for you to drive but it's just really big for our communities and I would really hate to see these go by the wayside and we keep hearing this to open up the gates. Gates aren't open, it’s got to go through the Senate and I would think this body would really wanna know which wrestler I can pair Senator Rucho to, I mean he’s got to be somebody really cool and but anyway that's what I think it does. I think it will shut these fares down and may only be 70 cents but that's a lot and advertising’s key. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Carney, please state you purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The Lady is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker and ladies and gentlemen of the house. Last Thursday when this bill came up it wasn't the first time that exemptions have been talked about and you know that we have talked about it a couple of years here to exempt or not to exempt, exempt them all or exempt some. Representative Holloway is correct, there will be exemptions coming forth, there are now, throughout this budget process as the papers fly back and forth from the both chambers. But what we don't do enough of up here is talk among ourselves when we are not in our community because we are not all in the communities. I don't think that we do enough of realizing the ?? that spread out across the state from when we pass legislation quickly. Whether it's tax reform, what are those ?? what are their impacts to the human aspect of what we do when we are developing policy. I said here that I had drawn up an amendment last Thursday that would open this up for all the arts, historical organizations and all the cultural organizations because I still believe that this is a good bill today. This is a bill about North Carolina, yes you’ve passed the tax reform, we voted on the ?? tax bill that all of these non-profits were losing their exemptions but it's never over and just because we voted and you probably gonna hear a lot more between now and next year. I chose to withdraw that amendment while I never submitted it but I had it drawn up. I wanted the debate and the talk to go on.

I have heard from many of you on the other side, over the weekend, this is an issue that I don't think we have all realized the tentacle impact and the human aspect of the non-profits and what they contribute to this state, and I believe that conversation has to be ongoing. We can start it today in a small way, by saying, "Yes, we voted for tax reform in this state, but we also recognize that sometimes you come back and you correct something that was wrong." So this is a small start, and I hope that we all, in here, can look at this from our conscience side. It isn't all about the big businesses and the for-profits, that's not what's made North Carolina in the past. It will grow us in the future, but it will not take away that human aspect of what goes on throughout this state with non-profits. I'm asking you today to support this one step, that we're listening, and we are getting the human side of what we do up here, in a far greater way than one, huge tax reform bill. We're always reforming; if we're not, we're not doing our job. Let's keep talking, let's keep working across the aisle, let's do what we heard with the lobbyist who was a Democrat and a member who was a Republican for years here. We listened, we talked, and we acted. So I'm asking you today to put it all aside, please vote yes on this and let's keep the conversation going for our non-profits in this state. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Howard, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady's recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker and members of the House, I did not stand last week and speak against this bill, but you've heard several of the other members, Representative Jeter, started a very strong conversation, and he's exactly right. We all debated, and worked for many, many months on the tax reform issue, and this is the first string that starts the unraveling of that bill. There'll be many other amendments; there will be some in the morning, in Finance, I'm sure of that. If you want to keep the tax reform package in place, you cannot begin to unravel it. Now this is only $400,000, that's not a huge amount of money in the concept of what the budget is doing. But there's a fix to this, a pretty easy fix. There is no requirement that there has to be a gate admission charge. So all of these agricultural fairs, if they opted to do so, could literally do a free admission to all of these children that come to the fairs. Or, free admission on a certain day. I know there's provisions made at the Dixie Classic Fair, for families, and so there's all kind of options there. No requirement that there is admission charged. If you charge no admission, there is no sales tax. So, that's a fix that should be probably considered. I just ask you, with pain in my heart, don't start unraveling what we all proudly supported last time. And, yes, things change, and circumstances change, but this bill, 998, has actually not even gone into effect. July 1, and we stand, June the tenth, beginning to unravel what was put in place. I ask you to vote no, and there's a good reason why you need to. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Given the hour for a motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman's recognized for a motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move the previous question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] A motion having been made by Representative Moore, duly seconded by Representative Lewis, the question before the House is the motion to move the previous question on House Bill 1201. All in favor, vote aye, all opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote.

[SPEAKER CHANGES] The clerk will let the machine record the vote. 70 have voted in the affirmative 47 in the negative, the motion passes we now subject to the discussion minority leader majority leader have a moment up to 3 minutes of final debate before we take the question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Hall, Larry Hall this gentleman wish to debate the motion or debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I think we had a good debate Mr. Speaker we go ahead and vote the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Starnes this gentleman wish to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill for a period ?? take 3 minutes. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Than you Mr. Speaker ladies and gentlemen of house this is an important issue and I voted for the bill last Thursday. I realize that there were some problems with it but that I think if we continue to let this bill advance we create a bigger problem than the one we are trying to solve. When we did tax reform, there was something in there that people didn't like but whether you like it didn't like it, it was fair. It treated all people equally and that was a very important platform that we use in going forward when we did tax reform. Now this year tax reform and the personal income tax set to go from 5.8% 5.75% there is gonna be another drop in personal income tax. So how we are going to pay for that, if revenue hits the trigger than the cooperative income tax will drop how we gonna pay for that we love to be able to give everybody a tax break or tax credit or some tax incentive but at some point in time we have to pay for, we have to do things in this body that are rational that are well thought out and that makes sense and that what we did last year with tax reform now we come and we decide where we got barish remorse so I am gonna undo it, we can't do that we just had the budget that came out today, there are some painful cuts in there, we are working to live within our means we would never be able to live within our means if we continue to take money off the table. I have a fair as it gonna hurt our people but in spite of that we have to look at the big picture that we promise to the public wet would deliver, I hope we will not no on this bill today. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The question before the house is to pass the house bill 1201 on its third grading. All in favor vote aye all oppose vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will let the machine record the vote. 56 have voted in affirmative and 61 in the negative. House bill 1201 has failed its third grading. Representative Brandon please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I would like to report a voting no in the motion to table the previous vote. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I think the gentleman is referring to the procedural motion moving the previous question ?? voting no. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Rodney Moore Please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES]?? voting yes on the previous bill I had a slip. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman has recorded voting aye. Representative Queen please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker I was in the chamber and I would like to Bree recorded this voting yes in house bill 1092. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman be recorded serving voted aye. House bill 1031 clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Committee for house bill 1031 to facilitate economic development within the state Johnson and north Carolina . [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Murry please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker we have a robust way Thursday pushing everybody's interest over the weekend on this bill you work with several members on various amendment to sure the focus for this public private partnership on making sure it's for all north Carolina your gonna see your amendments about ensuring that you're adequate representation and focus on rural areas. Just as a reminder this is a nonprofit just gonna focus on the sales and marketing of our state to help grow existing businesses, it attract new business to our state and helps small business to grow and.

Speaker 1: …areas, and I would ask your support. Mr. President I have an amendment that I would like to set forth at this time. Chairman: The gentleman is recognized to set forth an amendment. The clerk will read. Clerk: Rep. [xx] moves to amend the bill on page 2, line 20, by amending the line to read. Rep.: Thank you Mr. President. This amendment was requested by the state auditor’s office and various versions of this bill. We want to make sure that the state auditor is not expressly prohibited from being able to audit this entity. So, this just includes that OSBM, the state auditor, or any internal auditors, can audit the books of this entity. I would move for adoption and ask for your support. Chairman: Discussion or debate on the amendment? If not, the question before the House is the amendment, as set forth by Representative Murray, for the house committee substitute of House Bill 1031. All in favor vote aye, all opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. [brief silence] The clerk will now record the vote. 113 having voted in the affirmative, 1 in the negative, the amendment passes. We are now back on the Bill. Representative Wilkens is recognized to set forth an amendment. The clerk will read. Clerk: Rep. Wilkens moves to amend the bill on page 4, line 13, by rewriting the line to read. Rep. Wilkens: Thank you Mr. Speaker. This does take you to page 4, it takes you to the reporting section of the bill. If you recall, last Thursday, I had some qualms about the affect of the changes brought about by this bill – the effect on our rural communities. I still have those same qualms, those same misgivings. Hopefully, the edge of that can be reduced with the passage of this amendment. This piece is going to put the data, the reported data, into certain categories which will give a better picture of what we are doing, and how we are doing it, and where we are doing it. Essentially, what this does, in two different places, is add collection and reporting of data by tier. I really think this will be important to your rural areas and representatives, and I ask you to support the amendment. Chairman: Representative Moore, please state your purpose. Rep. Moore: For a motion. Chairman: The gentleman is recognized for a motion. Rep. Moore: Move that the amendment is on the table. Chairman: Motion having been made by Representative Moore, seconded by Representative Cleveland. The motion is not debatable. The question before the House is to lie upon the table the amendment set forth by Representative Wilkens for the house committee substitute of House Bill 1031. All in favor vote aye, all opposed vote. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will record the vote. 62 having voted in the affirmative, 53 in the negative, the motion passes. Representative Wydell has motioned to set forth an amendment. The clerk will now read. Cler: Rep. Wydell moves to amend the bill on page 2, lines 46 and 47, by deleting. Rep. Wydell : Thank you Mr. President. Ladies and Gentleman of the House, many of you heard me stand up and talk about disparity between the rural and urban areas of North Carolina. This amendment is pretty simple. It just gives some representation from the Tier 1 and 2 counties in the state. It doesn’t change anything else about who to go to appoint, you still have no more than two members in the prosperity zone, as laid out in the Bill, it allows the president, pro tim of the senate, and speaker of the house to make their appointments, but requires that at least one of their appointees be from a tier 1 area and a tier 2 county, it makes sure that no two appointees come from the same prosperity zone. I am concerned, just as Representative Wilkens said, in that sometimes our focus is more on the urban areas seems like…

get folks in earlier. This will give us a little bit of voice. I'm not asking that it comes-, doesn't matter to me if the person is a Republican or a Democrat, I just would like to see some, some diversity on the board and ensure that we have diversity on the board and I encourage your passage of the amendment [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Murry, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Debate the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Then Gentleman is recognized to debate the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker. I think this makes sense, makes sure we have the appropriate makeup on the Board of Directors. And we want, if you look at the prospective, what the prospective categories are in the bill. We got military folks represented, biotech, tourism, agriculture, and this just makes sure we have the appropriate geographic diversity to go along that subject matter expertise that we're looking for on this Board of Directors. And I think it will help it function better. And I appreciate your support of this amendment. And thank you Representative Waddell for bringing it forward. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further debate on the amendment? Representative Tolson, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speak on the amendment [SPEAKER CHANGES] Gentleman is recognized to debate the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Folks I'm glad to hear Representative Murry's comments. We just want the [?] to have a place at the table. This does it. So, I hope you will support the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further debate on the amendment? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Seeing no, member rise, the question before the House is the passage of the amendment, sent forth by Representative Waddell to the House Committee Substitute for House Bill 1031. All in favor vote 'aye', all opposed vote 'no'. The clerk will open the vote. [pause] The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 117 having voted in the affirmative, none in the negative. The amendment passes. Representative Baskerville, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Send forth an amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The Gentleman is recognized to send forth an amendment. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Baskerville, moves to amend the bill on page nine, lines 37, 38, by inserting between the lines the following. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The Gentleman is recognized to the debate the amendment [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have not been in the Legislature as long as some but just in the short period I've been here, I've noticed a trend and that is dealing with prestigious boards. Political appointees to those prestigious boards and commissions are often the same folks that's major political donors to candidates. And my amendment simply requires more disclosure from political appointees so that the public will have more information about who is going on these boards. My amendment requires that for political appointees, they have to disclose if they've raised money for candidates. If they have gathered political contributions for others for candidates. If they are participating in a political action committee that has engaged in political contribution activity. It requires those disclosures upon that appointee being notified that they are going to be appointed to a board. And that is so very important so that the public will feel like we are committed to providing transparency to our state government dealings. Now, when I was doing some research to try to figure out how to best present this to my colleagues here, I found a bill back from the 2009 session that was entitled, "Disclosure of Campaign Contribution Activity by Appointees to Positions in State Government". This was a bill that was filed in 2009, the primary sponsors were the gentleman from Fayetteville, Mr. Glazier, the gentleman from Wake County, Mr. Stam, gentleman from Mecklenburg County, our Speaker, Mr. Tillis. And I pulled the language of my amendment, straight from that bill that passed in 2009, 115 to zero. Now this, you might say that, "We already have rules or laws that govern this sort of thing." Well, we don't. When I looked at the State Ethics Act, there is no requirement of disclosure of the political contributions that appointees to boards give. Merely a simple yes or no statement on the Statement of Economic Activity [SPEAKER INTERRUPTS: Mr. Speaker] as to whether or not that person engaged in political engineering. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker? [RECORDING ENDS]

Please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I wondered if the gentleman would yield for a quick question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Baskerville, does the gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes sir. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Do you have that bill number from 2009, sir? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes sir, that is 944. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, sir. And once again, it passed 115 to zero. Speaker Tillis, Representative Stam were the primary sponsors of this, and the chamber thought it was good to have transparency with the political appointees back in 2009 and I think the same is necessary today as well. I urge your support. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Stam, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak on the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] And I promise, Representative Baskerville, I had my light on before he mentioned my name or the bill. I thought we passed that bill. [LAUGHTER] But I think it had an unusual fate in the senate. But let’s try it again. Let’s send it back to them again, and maybe they’ll include it in the bill. I support the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Collins, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To ask the bill sponsor a question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Or the amendment sponsor. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I was just reading on the, I believe it’s the first page, about line 26-27, under subsection, it’s number 4 under whatever section that is. When it says something about any 501c3 or 501c4, does that mean the reporting would go right on down to whatever, if I’m in one of those positions and I contribute to my church or any other tax-free organization? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Can you repeat that? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I think I’m on, well maybe I’m not on page 1. Hang on a minute, let me see. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes sir. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I think I’m on page, about line 27. It says any organization that’s a 501c3 or 501c4, wouldn’t that include, I think that includes my church. [SPEAKER CHANGES] If your church is engaging in political activity, yes sir. But this deals with political action committees. Political 501c3s and 4s. [SPEAKER CHANGES] May I follow up? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] As I read it, it says any organization that is a 501c3 or 501c4 organization under the Internal Revenue code. [SPEAKER CHANGES] If, let’s look at the title of the bill. This is dealing with political contributions, fund raising. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Representative, if you read the language there of my amendment, it’s dealing with political contributions. It’s dealing with fund raising in a political capacity, not religious contributions or scientific contributions or anything like that might be associated with some of those other not-for-profits. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Would Representative Baskerville yield for a question? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes, sir. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Baskerville, I’d like to follow up on the questions that the gentleman from Nash just propounded to you, and specifically would refer you to that same section of your bill, excuse me of your amendment. That would be lines 26 through 28 of the first page. And where it reads, because I see where we have any political party in North Carolina, and then I think this is the operative language I’m asking you about. Or any organization that is a 501c3 or 501c4 organization under the Internal Revenue code. First of all, does the gentleman acknowledge that that is the way the language reads? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I will acknowledge that the amendment says a candidate for the office with authority to make an appointment or a political committee controlled by a candidate with the authority is to make that appointment a political action committee, registered with the state board of elections. Any political party in North Carolina, or any organization that is a 501c3 or 501c4 organization. Yes, I will acknowledge that is the language. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Follow up. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Can the gentleman not clearly see from the way that this was written, that if this was passed in the manner the gentleman has drafted, that this would in fact require disclosures to any charitable foundation. The way your wording of your amendment, it is not limited to political. Does the gentleman see that? [SPEAKER CHANGES] No sir, I don’t.

What I see, I’m just going to engage a little statutory interpretation, the header of the section is relevant political committee. Now if my colleague and fellow attorney is going to interpret the statute, you have to look at the preceding language before that to give some context or to define what the terms are to come after that. So if you want to define a relevant political committee, which is the title of that section, as a church group, you’re free to do that. I don’t read it that way. But I would certainly accept any amendment to clarify that, because that’s not my issue with that. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I’d like to debate the amendment, Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman may be recognized unless someone is rising to put a question to Representative Moore? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, I would ask Representative Moore a question, please. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I yield. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore, I wonder, I think that there is an intent that everyone has but maybe the language needs to be tweaked just a bit, and I wonder if instead of debating the amendment, if you would allow and if Representative Baskerville would allow, for a quick two-minute meeting and perhaps we could do a perfecting amendment that would take care of everyone’s problem. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Well as they say I don’t have a dog in this fight. I was just reading this and you know how it is when one lawyer starts talking a lot of other ones stand up and speak and I’m guilty of that as much as the others. I certainly if the gentleman wishes to withdraw his amendment, that’s between the gentleman and the speaker, but I certainly do Representative Glazier think there’s a pretty big problem with this language as it is. I believe it certainly goes beyond the scope of what the gentleman is preparing. But I would also respond as well, that the other issue I think that may be problematic even if you fix that, is that putting this provision in that applies only to the department of commerce, and I believe the bill from 2008 and the other bills were general bills meant to apply across state-wide. And the problem that I would see also is why would we treat these appointments any differently than we would any other kind of appointments where folks are concerned about politics? Should that not be something that we do across the board, and not specific to one area? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Follow up, Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentleman yield? The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore again, I wonder if you would agree and if the speaker would allow and Representative would, to temporary displace this amendment and let’s see if we can’t get it, the one concern, at least the one concern, before we vote on it. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I think that would be up to the member to ask that of the speaker. I have no call on that. That’s the speaker’s call. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Stam, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the amendment, then to make a motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] If it had been the bill we passed in 2009 I would have supported it. I was too quick. It’s not. It added stuff. Therefore, I move that this be displaced to the end of today’s calendar. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Don’t we have one more bill? We do not have another bill to take up, so we’re pretty much here. [LAUGHTER] [SPEAKER CHANGES] May I change my motion? [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to restate his motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] That we displace it until tomorrow’s calendar. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The house be at ease. [PAUSE] Ladies and gentlemen, it is the intent of the chair to take the final vote on this bill today. We do have another amendment, if the bill sponsor wishes to temporarily displace this amendment. Representative Baskerville? Representative Baskerville. If the gentleman wishes to temporarily displace his amendment, we have another amendment that we can consider. But the chair intends to take a vote on this today. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, may we temporarily displace my amendment? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes sir. Representative Ramsey is recognized to set forth an amendment. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Ramsey moves to amend the bill on page 8, line 50 by inserting after the line the following language.

The gentleman is recognized to debate the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. speaker. Members of the house this is a simple amendment, it just assures that twenty five percent of the funds raised through personnel that are used in this public/private partnership will be focused on tier one and two counties. These are the more economically distressed communities in our state, and assures that the rural areas will not get left behind in this commerce reorganization. The state funds are already designated in that way and this just makes sure that the private funds that are raised will be allocated with the opportunity for those to go to rural communities. I want to thank Representative Tine from Dare county for his work on this amendment as well as the bill sponsor, Representative Murry for his work and let's stand for any questions the body may have. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Murry, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] This amendment has been a work in progress since Thursday and as Representative Ramsey did state, Representative Tine really put in a lot of effort and had a great conversation about this. We want to make sure that rural areas in our state get their fiar share of the effort put forth by this public/private partnership. This amendment gets us closer to that, I think there's still a little bit of language that needs to be worked out to make sure that we're not disproportionately, cause not all regions and that's why I wanted to, I also wanted to stand up to make sure everybody looks really hard at this beautiful, colorful map of the prosperity zones, so you can see where your counties are, where it is and you can kind of mental check on what tier one counties are in our region, what tier two counties, what tier three counties are in our region and start to think about how this amendment would affect the operations of economic development in your regions and help us get this right as this bill continues to move forward. Talk to your senators to make sure that there's, its fair and balanced, so that we make sure that rural areas in our state have the appropriate attention they deserve. Decentralize, get folks out of Raleigh, get them into your communities and get them working for you. [SPEAKER CHANGES]218 Representative Waddell, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speak on the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. ?? Once again this is a really good amendment that will move ?? new people closer to where those areas are. Those tier one tier two counties, I looked at your map, Representative Murry, and its a good map go south in my region down there and that's where the tier one counties are, Bladen, Columbus, Robeson county. So I hope ?? support this amendment, I hope you'll pass it, its a good move in the right direction for the rural counties, thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Anyone wishing to speak against this amendment? Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the house is the passage of the amendment sent forth by Representative Ramsey to the house committee substitute to house bill 1031. All in favor, vote aye, all opposed vote no. The closer will open the vote. The clerk will let the machine record the vote. 115 having voted affirmative and 1 in the negative, the amendment passes. Representative Queen, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes, to be counted as voting aye on the first amendment that we took up on this bill 1031, I was in the chamber, just wasn't able to make the button. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman will be recorded as voting aye on the Murry amendment. The house be at ease. Members, please take your seats. Ladies and gentlemen, while we're waiting for the members to take their seats, the chiar would like to extend a, take a moment of personal privilege to say a happy birthday to one of my staff, Joe Nolan who turned 37 today. Joe, happy birthday. The house will come back to order.

Representative Baskerville please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGE] Mr. Speaker I move to table my amendment. I withdraw my amendment Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGE] The gentleman was choosing to be more punitive than we want you to be but the gentleman’s amendment is withdrawn. Representative Stam please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGE] Just speak briefly on the non-ammendment. It would be the intention of Representative Baskerville and myself and others to take that comprehensive bill that applies to many more boards and pass it in the house this session. [SPEAKER CHANGE] Representative Baskerville we appreciate you bringing the matter to our attention and we look forward to you working with Representative Stam on the movement of the bill that you referred to in your debate. Representative Larry Hall please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGE] Speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGE] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGE] Thank you Mr. Speaker. Ladies and gentlemen as you have seen, we all recognize there are several shortcomings in this bill. We’ve made an effort to try and make the bill fairer and more equitable for North Carolina. As you might know, when the bill first came to the floor here, and maybe this is where work should have been done earlier, but when the bill came to the floor a lot of the protections we sought were not in it and some of the protections were adopted yet even still others were denied even a vote or discussion or full discussion. Now as we just had an accommodation on this last motion to amend, on this last amendment, we still had several instances where we did not even discuss the help rural North Carolina could have received and we all agree needs in this bill. The transparency for doing business this new way is essential not just for the people to know what’s going on but for them to be able to get the results that this is purportedly going to provide for North Carolina. I think it’s a good thing that we did ensure more participation in the decision making process. I am disappointed that we weren’t able to ensure disclosure by members of the board that would be appointed. I don’t think we made enough progress on the bill for us to fully support it and for that reason I’ll be voting against the bill as Representative Stam would often say, even though he made it better it’s still a bad bill. [SPEAKER CHANGE] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the house is the passage of the house committee substitute for house bill 1031 on its third reading. Those in favor of the passage of the bill will vote aye. Those opposed will vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. Eighty-one having voted in the affirmative and thirty-six in the negative, the bill passes on its third reading. It’s ordered engrossed and will be sent to the senate. [SPEAKER CHANGE] Notices and announcements. [SPEAKER CHANGE] For what purpose does the gentleman from Columbus, Representative Waddell rise? [SPEAKER CHANGE] Point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGE] The gentleman is recognized to speak up to three minutes for a point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGE] Thank you Mr. Speaker. Ladies and gentlemen of the house I stand here proudly tonight, I sometimes think that I probably wouldn’t have done this in my younger years, but Columbus County, the Whiteville Wolfpack are the state 1A baseball champs and I stand here to congratulate them on the floor of the house and also from the same school in Whiteville, we have the state runners up in girls’ softball in 1A. It’s a proud accomplishment for my rural area and certainly since I went to a rival school a little bit further down the road, we didn’t always think to highly of Whiteville but in this case you come to find out that things change over time. [SPEAKER CHANGE] For what purpose does the lady from Surry, Representative Stevens rise?

To see if the representative will yield for a question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentlemen from Columbus yield to the lady from Surrey? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I will. [SPEAKER CHANGES] He yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just wanted you to know the team they beat was from my county. It was coached by my son-in-law. But I do have tremendous glowing comments back for your team and I understand you have a freshman pitcher who’s absolutely incredible. You had no seniors on that team. And they will be back. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Look out. [LAUGHTER] [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the lady from Wilson, Representative Farmer Butterfield rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] A point of privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady is recognized to speak up to three minutes for a point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker. Tomorrow is Delta Day at the capital. Delta Sigma Theta sorority, that is my sorority as most of you know. The ladies in red and white will be here in overwhelming numbers. And we ask that you be attentive to them when they come to talk to you about their legislative priorities. And they look forward to seeing you tomorrow. Thank you so much. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Forsythe, Representative Lambeth, rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to speak up to three minutes for a point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I would also like to announce that West Forsythe High School won their first ever championship in any sport, in baseball this last weekend and we’re very proud of what they were able to accomplish this year on the baseball diamond. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Mecklenburg, Representative Brawley rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] An announcement, Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alas, it’s less fun than the previous ones. For those of you who remember Representative Jim Gulley who served here for a number of years, a memorial service will be held for him in Matthews, at the First Baptist Church here on Friday. That’s at 185 South Trade Street in Matthews, at 2PM. Anybody making their way back home in that area, I would appreciate it if you all would pay respect for a man with over ten years’ service. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Richmond, Representative Goodman, rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] For a moment of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to speak up to three minutes for a point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. I just wanted to say to the gentleman from Forsythe County that they beat Richmond Senior High School from Richmond County two out of three, and unlike the owners of California Chrome, I want to offer you congratulations and I want to be a gracious loser. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Gilford, Representative Blust, rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Judiciary A will not meet tomorrow. Will not meet, because of the appropriations committee meeting that some of you may want to attend. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Johnston, Representative Langdon, rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The house education committee will meet 15 minutes after this session in 643. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Nash, Representative Collins, rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] For an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Those of you that are members of the state personnel committee, you’ve been getting a series of emails today. We will not be meeting tomorrow. Could not find the time to do that with all the appropriations meetings that are going on, so you have the day off from the state personnel committee. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Henderson, Representative McGrady, rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] For an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For those members who serve on Judiciary B, we anticipate a special meeting on Thursday morning. Neither appropriations nor finance are going to meet, so we’re going to try to take up some bills at that point. Just wait for the calendar or the agenda when it comes out. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Cumberland, Representative Floyd, rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, to see if Representative Butterfield would yield for a question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Who is that? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Butterfield. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the member yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I yield. [SPEAKER CHANGES] She yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Butterfield, I notice that you mentioned that an organization would be here tomorrow in red and white. Would it be possible for them to add a little blue to it? [LAUGHTER] [SPEAKER CHANGES] That is, I would gladly respond. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the lady from Franklin, Representative Richardson, rise? Does the lady wish to answer the gentleman’s question? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes, she does. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the lady from Wilson yield the floor to the lady from Franklin? [SPEAKER CHANGES] After I answer the question. [LAUGHTER] [SPEAKER CHANGES] I will yield to the lady from Wilson. [SPEAKER CHANGES] All right, the lady from Wilson has the floor to answer the question propounded by the gentleman from Cumberland. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative, they will have on blue but you will not be able to see it with the eye. [LAUGHTER] Thank you.

I don’t know if we can top that one. For what purpose does the gentleman from Durham, Representative Leubke rise. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Question for Representative Langdon. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does Representative Langdon yield to a question from the gentleman from Durham? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes. [SPEAKER CHANGES] He does. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Representative Langdon. You just indicated that there’d be a house education committee meeting just 15 minutes after session. [SPEAKER CHANGES] That’s right. [SPEAKER CHANGES] And I wonder you could tell us what bill or what bills would be on the calendar. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Community college board. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Time we need to take care of. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes sir, just curious. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the lady from Franklin desire further comment? I notice the lady’s light’s on. For what purpose does the gentleman from Durham, Representative Hall rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] For an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House Democrats will caucus at 6PM at an offsite location and we will have caucus at one hour prior to session tomorrow, calendar permitting, in our regular caucus room. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Wake, Representative Dollar rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] For an announcement [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The full appropriations committee will meet tomorrow morning at 10:00 in room 643. Please you will have your, everybody will have your updated budget bill and money report delivered to you in the morning. Please bring those documents with you to full appropriations at 10:00 because we will not have extra copies there. So you’ll get your updated copy of the budget and money report, please bring them with you, 10:00 tomorrow morning full appropriations. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Chair. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose, I see both Cumberland lights on. For what purpose does Representative Floyd rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] To see if Representative Dollar would yield for a question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I yield. [SPEAKER CHANGES] What time? [SPEAKER CHANGES] 10:00. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Amendments have to be in by 10 also? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Oh, thank you for asking the question, Representative Floyd. Amendments, requests for amendments need to be in to staff by noon. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further notices and announcements. If not, [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Durham, Representative Ball rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Amended announcement based on the time you’re going to start session in the morning. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Do you know what time you’re going to start session in the morning? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Session will be at 9:45 tomorrow for the purpose or reading in the bill from finance and then having that referred on to the appropriations committee. It is not the intention of the chair at this point, I don’t believe there are any bills to be heard at all tomorrow, at least at this point, during that 9:45 session. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker, for an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker. For house Democrats please watch your email for a meeting time tomorrow during the day. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Members, without objections. House, look at your calendar, House Bill 1067 Murphy D-eannexation which would otherwise roll over to tomorrow’s calendar, will without objection roll over to Thursday’s calendar. Is there objection? Hearing none, so ordered. For what purpose does the Representative from Craven, Representative Speciale rise? Further notices and announcements? [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the Representative from Cumerland Representative Floyd rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] A quick inquiry for the chair. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman may state his inquiry. [SPEAKER CHANGES] At 9:00 we’re going to convene the desk to vote the ??. Would it be a vote, I mean a no-vote session or a vote session. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Finance committee I believe meets at 8:30. The house goes into session at 9:45. When the house comes into session what will happen is we will receive the bill from finance and then the bill or the budget will be referred to appropriations. There will be no votes at that time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Follow up. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for a follow up question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] We’re going to convene at 9:45. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Could the gentleman restate his question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I hear you say that finance committee is going to meet at 8:30. My question is when are we going to convene.

I believe. Is it 9:45? [Speaker change] Yes, the House will convene at 9:45 for the limited purpose of receiving the bill from Fiance and then referring the bill to Appropriations Committee I believe meets at 10 o'clock until the Appropriations Committee finishes it's work. And there is no intention, at this point, that they'll be any votes taken at all tomorrow morning during session. [speaker change] Thank you Mr. Speaker. [speaker change] What purposes does the lady from Davy Rep. Howard rise? [speaker change] To make an announcement Mr. Speaker. [speaker change] Lady is recognized to make an announcement. [speaker change] Just to repeat the conversation. The House Finance will meet at 8:30 in room 544 for the purpose of debating all of the provisions. The piece that finance will discuss is what is in the current budget. [speaker change] Further notice this is an announcement. If not, the gentleman from Harnett, Rep. Lewis, is recognized. [speaker change] Thank you Mr. Speaker. Subject to ratification of bill, messages from the Senate, committee reports, conference reports, new referrals of bills and resolutions, appointment of conferees, introduction of bills and resolutions, modification through the calendar; I move the House do now adjourn to reconeve on June 11th at 9:45 AM. [speaker change] Representative Lewis moves, seconded by Rep. Dixon that the House adjourn subject to Subject to ratification of bill, messages from the Senate, committee reports, conference reports, new referrals of bills and resolutions, appointment of conferees, introduction of bills and resolutions, modification through the calendar to reconvene Wed. June 11th at 9:45 AM. Those in favor will say aye. Those oppose no. The ayes have it. The House stands adjourned.