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House | March 31, 2015 | Chamber | Justice and Public Safety

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Call the meeting to order. We'd like to thank our sergeant in arms with us today Barrymore and VH Powel and David Limbaugh. We have two pages I believe, first is Caroline Hare Vance is that correct? Excuse me Carolyn Hore from Bams county OK.  Sponsored by speaker Moore stand up Caroline, and tell us a little about here, where you go to school, and what your aspiration's, are and so on and so forth.   I've go a cabin academy, and I'm in the night grey. Thank you very much. Glad to have you here. And the second page is Ashier Makachen hope I'm pronouncing is that right? Yes, Sir. From Wake County sponsored by Representative Gill. I'm in ninth grade and I go to Oakley y College. Great, good to have you with us hope you learnt something from us this morning, about justice and public safety, and if you have any question, let us know. Thanks a lot. OK it's John [xx] day again nd John's going to be talking a little bit further on VPS Prisons program budget and several different items so John we turn it over to you. If you have a question along as we go just raise your hand and we'll handle it. [xx] Talk about the skales. Thank you, sorry about the delay, today we're going to wrap up some items from last week's presentation. We're going to talk about in prison programs including [xx] and correction appraisals. Tomorrow we're going to talk about in mate medical and first they will wrap up adult medical with Lisa presenting of the community corrections. So wrapping up from last week. One of the points that I want to clarify about the safety [xx] representative Turner had asked the question about the counties they are in arrears and I have opposed of that to the committee's website. I don't think I made the point on Thursday that one of the challenges in the safety for program is inmates that come to the State system because they're pretrial individuals they're being held at what's equivalent of a close custody cell and so that actually causes sort of an extra burden, an extra expense to the State that I want to make sure that you all were aware. They're not in general population like in a dome or things like that. Recent budget actions, this is where we left off, we had talked before about the some issues about private maintenance, there are three prisons that have private maintenance contracts, there was a provision in 2011 directing the department to study the maintenance contract and report its findings to the general not to extend the contracts unless authorized by the General Assembly. Last session there was another directive that they could expand the contracts if they wish if savings could be realised and safety could be maintained and they were to report to Gov. Ops, on the anticipated savings, and then take into considerations, prior to expanding, to entering new contracts. The report was to also post on a website for you. One of the conclusions was, there's no conclusive evidence that privatized maintenance proves significant savings over the in-house department maintenance and for three years the used at during the study. That department cost were less than private maintenance, two of the contracts were due to expire December 31st, 2014 and one is due to expire the end of April. The department extended the contract of the two facilities for an additional year, but they did not however consult. Now, we'll ask the questions, how

many prisons are now under a private contract for maintenance? There's three facilities, there's Morry, Tabor and Thank you. Those are 3 of the 1000 beat prison sir. Okay, the Taper is down in Columbus in Taper city, Morry is down in I think  the Green county and Vitchy is in Popton. What wins are Mr. Chair I think my question might be better answered by someone from the agency Thank you sir.commissioner David Gais Correctional Juvenile Justice, if you could repeat your question Sir, presentently privately main thing. So, the department completed it's assessment and you find that assessment in the document that we prepared and I think that we, just like the legislature asked us to do with regards to determining whether or not there was not any saving's, we have a total of 56 facilities, now three of those are privately maintained the rest of them, or maintained by our staff in the House, and in addition I wish to have my entails, a juvenile justice facilities and other facilities that we have. I think that that what we have found in that study, is self explanatory, and I think that's the answer, that you'll have department. I believe that the study itself answers that question. [xx] I'm learning to answer question with less words and representative [xx] I learnt that from you. And fine moving to the issue of lab salary, this is the five year history of the adult correction portion of the lab salary, it's almost $410 million over this five year period, for the past two years here are the major category of expenditure the last salaries focus accomplished $25.9 million, the temporary nurses which we'll talk about some tomorrow is about $20 million overtime of all these categories you see here, this counts for like 82% of the total lab salaries. Shipping some major budget action that happened last biannum, those were $9 million reduction. Yes I was thinking maybe it's further back. I was thinking there was a large expenditure of less sour [xx]. Yes sir, that was in 2011-2012, but I can give you the exact year for that. Just here was about $43 million as I recall. Here is the major budget actions in addition to imminent health care reduction there were closures at Duplin, Bladen, Wayne, Johnston was converted from a medium to a minimum custody facility. Tilliry which is at Halifax county was consolidated with Caledonia the misty was removed from the prison state system. When I say removed from the state prison system, we din't take the existing population and ship them out these are folk's who are new citizen's, on after October 1st, and then the gait of your eyes, on after January 1 st last year flautin was closed, Noth Pidmar was closed  and Eastern was converted to a female facility. And then finally, major actions the Governor is proposing in his budget.

There was a non recurring $11.9 million budget reduction a few years ago that was continued in the last bynem[sp?] this is been restored in the continuation budget, the correction [xx] classification that I'll talk about momentarily, some start up funds for the summer camp training Academy, and then there is a measured flexibility reduction of $50 million amount recurring and then finally to add an electronic intrusion system to hornet, if indeed the hornet intrusion system goes through. There are going to be four facilities left so that are close or medium do not have electronic intrusion system. The correctional officer requested plan. In August 2013, the department requested to state herein resources assistance in reviewing the correctional officer class, a number of challenges we talked about last time are low pays, salary compression and lack of career progress. One of the things that we said to have found was the role of CEO's have changed over the years and part because of change in sentencing law inmates with middle health problems, we'll talk about more tomorrow. More felons in minimum custody and also the size of some of the facilities now. The proposal was to take three levels, to develop three levels of correctional officers. We'll have the CO correctional officer one, those are folks that will be in minimum custody facilities, CO2s will be medium, and CO3s will be in closed cast facility, the idea is to sort of give officers not only clear progression, but also you want to have your more senior officers, more experienced folks in a more difficult facilities. Want to stress that being in a minimum custody facility is a difficult assignment also, but I think the department's recognition that the closed custody facility especially the very large ones have unique challenges. In addition to that, proposal will be to take a CO1 and move them up from a 62 to 63, a CO2 to a 64, and then take a close custody jump [xx] an extra level from a 62 to a 66 and then within this plan will be some managerial progress, depending on upon what type of staff you have, and the complexity of the inmate. The department is moving more towards trying to have prisons with special missions. Francis Morris is leading towards having a big middle health component and so the challenge is associated with that. The slide last week said they were going to present this plan in April, but much to my surprise the plane affect's representative, and February are in approved the total cost is going to be about $56 million over a three year faison that includes not knowing the custody staff but obviously the managerial staff in the thesaurus also. The cabinet budget recommends $20.79 start to that beginning next year. Mr. Chair that was the last presentation the following question [xx]. OK shifting gears to in prison programs Today we'r going to talk about the 64.6 million dollar about 6% of the total prison budget. as we've said time and time again construction [xx] inmates service, service their full sentence but 95% of them are going be released at some point except for the 1900 Class A offenders in prison programs consist of major programs are diagnostic centers, case management, inmate education work assignments and chaplains. They have a 1200 FTE. So when somebody has sent a sinister in court depending upon their crime and what part of the state it was in they'll be sent to one of the seven processing centers that in diagnostic centers around the State it depends the foothill facility and the [xx] facility of for the youthful  offenders and the rest of them piedmont central prison, Women's for heaven and new's are, all listing upon your link's of your statement's, and also what part of the state your in. The diagnostic center's have a 102 FTE. The idea is you go in and take a whole battery of tests and assessments from medical to psychological to social screening to also substibue[sp?] screening the goal is to have a 15 day turn around in completing the case and processing takes approximately a month and then you're assigned to one of 56 prisons around the state, last year there were almost 21,

000 inmates processed and they processed about 1900 inmates a month. So as part of the processing system invade me with a case manager to develop a plan while they are in prison. All inmates have a case manager and meet the case manager at least every other month to work on what their plans are in terms of their goals or educational services they need.education programs is a very, very large component of this, it's about $11 million a budget. That includes the youth components, which has 46 teachers, five principals and five diet counselors and psychologists. At the youth facility they require the inmates to take their GED high school diploma courses as part of their case management plan, and then the other facility inmates with less than a sixth grade education are required to be an adult basic education plan. There're approximately 1/3 of inmates coming to prison with less than a sixth grade education, that's a major challenge as you can probably imagine. So a number of years ago inmate tuition, inmate program was changed with continuation review with the community college system. So currently there's a $4 million appropriation that mainly targets towards continuing education and curriculum courses, about 48% of the courses are things like human resource development, computer application, commercial cleaning, electrical. Basic education as I mentioned is a little bit less than 40%, and the curriculum courses about 15%. These range everything from horticulture to cosmetology programs. Last year almost 2200 inmates received their GED and during this time Thank you, how widespread are the courses in the prisons? Some offered some [xx] So Representative Tanner, for instance, I know down at Hornet, is where they have the [xx] programme and the communicologists are obviously a huge resource but to specifically, maybe I can get Nicole to sort of touch further on that answer if it's OK. Nicole Sullivan department of public safety. Thank you for the question, so it is an annual process that we go through with each community college and the local prison to decide what classes are offered, so it is a variety going on at most of the facilities, we do primarily look at the trade, because we know that those seems to be offender friendly in terms of employment in the future, of course basic education, and then the life skills in preparation for release, so those are typically the types of the classes we're offering, that it's a local decision, what classes would be offered at each facility. Representative [xx] from that last 2600 individuals enrolled in the construction technologies program. Just under what cole was saying. inmates working. It's state policy that all able-bodied inmates shall be working Then last year he was the least of sort of the major work assignments, but prison years those are folks who are actually working in prison units doing janitorial tasks, light maintenance, things like that food services, I cancel out 3300, Correction Enterprise will talk about more or was a little over 2000 prison inmates, road squads, state agents in local governments, these are folks who are actually out. I just saw some this morning, doing lawn work. [xx] make construction program and the folks will work at least the average daily population is a little bit less than 19, 000 individuals. Yes chair. Representative [xx] Thank you. for as I just finished the work from people look. Constructions finished are remodeling everything. [xx] they did a wonderful job [xx]. Once again my thunder representative Harley I'm sorry I'll just skip this slide as you all have heard of the MNet, construction program the 4FT plus the 63 staff from the sectional engineering, and they work on major project's this past typically youth they completed a 61 project involving about 9600 inmates some of the major projects have involved the central prison dinning renovations they are working down the Stonewall Jackson YDC the summer camp

training academy a number of fence projects as well as working some highway patrol facilities. One of the challenges that has come out though is when the construction program first started they were doing lots of projects at facilities doing the dorm add on at the 6000 bed prisons as well as lots of fence project. Those folks could be housed on site where they did the work. One of the issues that they are running into is transportation issues as well as custody staff it's creating a lot of overtime issues so going forward I think they're going to have to look at this program to sort of may be try and prioritize because I think our reaction is always to say inmate construction can do that because A it's the cost and more importantly, if I've also given the inmates viable skills, but there are a number of challenges associated with that program. inmate labor contracts, these are folks that are working inmates that are working with state and local governments, mainly for minimum custody facilities. They were 176 entities state and local governments that employed [xx] inmates last year. They've been supervised by custodial agents so, and the department is not supervising them, it's people who've been trained in local government or state government, to supervise these folks. The goal is to have them working four or five days a week and they're paid a dollar a day, this program has been affected by the number of minimum custody closures, you've probably gotten more phone calls about this program, when a person who looks to close special minimum custody. Lots of locals call and say, we can't close with this prison because, this inmates are enviable part of our local labor workforce, then it's a big challenge and work there are nineteen FTEs with this program, these are minimum custody level three. Minimum custody is divided into three custody levels level 3 are the lowest level individuals, they must be paid, the wage of the job. Minimum wage is the bottom. They work in local restaurants, construction firms. They pay $23 a day to present this program, that's $20 per Diem for food and also [xx] transportation fee with this program. Road squads, this is a transfer from the department of transportation to provide their service. There are 49 minimum custody crews, and 66 medium custody crews, there are 1500 inmates. They mainly do litter pick up, manual clearing of right of ways, and I had some crews just to get us to the greatest place in the world, clearing and grabbing every fast removing trees and shrubs from the future right of way construction projects. The minimum custody litter crews have one guard with them, and the road squads are medium custody and they have two armed guards with them. Inmate welfare. This is a $13.5 million budget, it's got 31 FTE. The receipts from this come 7.6 million comes from the inmate fund program and $5.3 million comes from the canteen system. These funds are spent to provide services to inmates, there is a general fund transfer of $700, 000 they also must pay the victims fund, $600, 000 and the reason that the $600, 000 is tied to, it must be the exact amount that is put into the inmate welfare regional welfare program, so that's how that figure is determined every year and then finally the canteen funds. This [xx] led to this our supplies and they also gave out $1.5 million for [xx] inmates, inmates who can't afford to buy sandrines and funds from the canteen and the other inmates help pay for that or will help pay for that. The Chaplins their 21 general fund, supported Chaplin and 18 receipts supported Chaplins while the receipts were come out of the inmate welfare funds. Religious programs are offered at all prison facilities and the Chaplins are really responsible for coordinating all religious programming and also coordinating with outside groups, the chaplains are not [xx] they are there to ensure  the freedom of religion. In 2011 the general assembly eliminated 25 Chaplins, but they maintained the chaplains at all close custody facility. Last ramastoric we have an inmate participating in 15 religious practices, in addition to the 39 state funded an receipts supported Chaplins there often 24 communityfunded Chaplins

at 17 prisons, and last year there were 7700 volunteers they volunteered in prison, that's on top of [xx] religious volunteers the loss of volunteers at facility they do things other than religious services. Okay, changing gears to talk about substance abuse programs, the problem most directed to establish of division of alcoholism and chemical dependency trigger programs. The main part of their budget is sort of split almost equal between the in presence treatment programs it's about $5.7 million and then the accumulate base programs are $7.6 million. The services [xx] programmes is, there are 104 FTE, 45, 000 inmates enrolled in a daily cost of about $15.90 per day. There are 2 type of programs, there are intermediate programs those are 90 days programs and there're 11 facilities and there are long term programs but 180 365 and those are 6 facilities. As I mentioned as the part of the processing because only the diagnosis Gnostic centers. Inmates are given something called a SASSI, with is a Substance Abuse Subtle Screening Inventory. so the five they're to determine what their level of substance abuse or addiction is. It ranges from a person who is a level one requires no treatment to people who are level five who need long term treatment. As you can see about 58% or 9800 inmates are deemed to have need substitute treatments all the way to folks who are in need long term care. So, this lightens a little bit of interpretations we've gone back and forth in trying to make this understandable as possible, it probably needs some pink bubbles that happen by here were are. What you have are the intermediate needs and the intermediate slots and then you have year by year and then you have a long term need and a long term slots, so for restance this past year there were a  needy over that 5400 treatment slots  but there were only 2900 treatment slots available, so it's one of the big challenges that government has, making sure that there are enough slots and also as part of that case managing plan trying to get the inmates into the programs that needed and also there are obviously a specific prison so it's a whole management and moving issue. Are any of you on enrollment? You can see obviously that the intermediate programs, are the much larger one's because, they're a 90 day program, and the 5.79 folk's that are in long term treatment. So the immune treatment there's 785 treatment slot's in different days as I mentioned. The capacity of the organisation is 78% and 72% when you completed the program. It's more challenging in the long term residential program, for a number of reason's. One they might obviously have a greater substitute to these issues, they're obviously also in the program for a lot longer and then there was a pilot program, to do with a quick intervention program. So why do folks exit the program? Almost 80 % of them exit, because they've completed the program, some folks are proved inappropriate for treatment, and in this category, being removed from disciplinary reasons. Last year that was 12% they're removed by the custody staff for disciplinary issue that happened outside the treatment environment, so it's again, two spokes are in prison the primary responsibilities to custody that's ex prior everything else. So some of these folks, especially the long term folk's I mean it's giving business an immediate folks, don't have as high of a removal rate as long term folks. Last the longterm folks, about 45% completed the program, almost a little less than a quarter. for disciplinary reasons again, the links of a program there in there on makes it a lot more challenging for them. Here's some program changes that happened in the past fiscal year relating to a number of closures. There were moving treatments plots around the system to help manage the prison closures and changes within the prison system. So what are some of the challenges, treatment challenges, not enough treatments slots, inmates in

closed custody or not treated, general medical and middle health issues relate to the system at large. Operational demands at the facilities, and then there aren't single purpose facilities for [xx] that I think they are looking at, going forward. Are there any further questions in the information is more The Chair is having meeting that we need to attend so we're going to adjourn this time, we'll pick up again tomorrow. Thank you very much.