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House | March 10, 2015 | Chamber | House Session

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The House will come to order. Members will take their seats. Visitors will retire from the chamber. The Sergeant at Arms will close the doors. Members and visitors alike are asked to please silence all electronic devices. Today's prayer will be offered by Representative Warren. Members and all guests in the gallery are asked to please stand during the prayer and also to remain standing during the Pledge of Allegiance. Representative Warren. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker. Let's all bow our heads please. Heavenly Father, today we have come together once again to work on behalf of the people of this wonderful state, that you have blessed so abundantly. You have entrusted us with the responsibility of caring for the majestic animals, fertile ??, beautiful coast and waters that you so generously provided. Father, there are many among us today that believe with their whole hearts that we are here by your design, that you have called us to be here for your purpose to do your work. So Lord, on behalf of this body, I beseech you to open our hearts and minds to one another, that we might work in harmony to address and resolve the issues before us in a manner most pleasing to you. Help us Lord, to use the patience, understanding, tolerance, compassion and humility that you have given us, strengthen us to suppress our vanity, our egos, and our pride, that we may govern fairly, reasonably, and honestly in the best interest of those who we represent. And finally Lord, we ask that you bless those men and women around the world who at this very minute are at the watch, in battle, away from family, friends and the comfort of home, defending our very right to be here, exercising the freedoms of self-government that they and so many before them have, and are sacrificing for our posterity. Bless them and protect them and us we pray, in Christ's holy name. Amen. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands. One nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman from ??, Representative Lewis is recognized for a motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, the journal for March ninth has been examined and found to be correct. I move that it stand approved as written. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lewis moves that the journal for March ninth be approved as written. So many favoring the approval of the journal will say aye. Those opposed will say no. The ayes have it, and the journal is approved as written. Members, our nurse of the day is ?? Stacy from Zebulon. Miss Stacy, we're glad to have you with us today. [APPLAUSE] Members, we have a number of courtesies in the gallery that the Chair will extend at this time. We have some folks here with us but first of us we have a school group visiting with us. From Forsyth Academy in Winston Salem, if you all please stand so that we can welcome you to the House today. Glad to have you with us. [APPLAUSE] Also on motion of Representatives John Hardister, Stephen Ross and Dennis Riddell, the Chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to students from the ?? Advanced Elementary School. If you will please stand so we can welcome you as well. [APPLAUSE] Additionally, on motion of all members of the House, the Chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to the board members, volunteers and the staff from non-profits from every region in North Carolina who have come to Raleigh today from North Carolina non-profit state to remind us that non-profits are essential to the lives of all North Carolinians and that the non-profit sector provides more than 400,000 jobs in North Carolina. Please stand so we can welcome you as well. [APPLAUSE] On motion of Representative Ager of Buncombe County, the Chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to his nephew, Charlie Clark, Sophia Mosby and Laughlin Angle from AC Reynolds High School. They are here for the AP Government class. Charlies' granddaughter is former House member James McCoy Clark. If you all would please stand so that we could welcome you as well. Glad to have you with us. [APPLAUSE] On motion of Representative

Representative Terry of Forsyth County the Chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to mayor Allen Jones from the city of Winston-Salem. Mayor Jones if you’d please stand so we can welcome you as well. [applause] And on motion of Representative Cleveland of Onslo County, the chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to Emily Cleveland, the granddaughter of Representative Cleveland. Emily, where are you? [applause] And we may invite you to come to the floor to help us keep your grandfather in line at some point this afternoon. And on the motion of Representative Warren of Rowan County, the chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to his brother, Mr. Martin Warren of Wesley Chapel, FL. Mr. Warren, if you’d please stand, let us welcome you as well. Glad to have you. [applause] On motion of Representative Burr of Stanley County the chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to Stanley County Commissioner Joseph Barleson and Jack Goman, Vice Chairman of the North Carolina Federation of College Republicans. We’re glad to have you here. Thank you for being with us. [applause] Representatives Brown and Holloway are recognized to send forth a committee report. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representatives Brown and Holloway, Education University Committees Report, House Bill 19, Waive tuition, fallen officer was guardian, favorable to committee substitute, unfavorable to original bill and re-referred to Appropriations. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The original bill is placed on the unfavorable calendar, the committee substitute is referred to the Committee on Appropriations. Representatives Iler, Shepherd and Torbett are recognized to send forth a committee report, the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representatives Iler, Shepherd and Torbett, Transportation Committee Report, House Bill 102, utility vehicle, law enforcement, favorable to committee substitute. Unfavorable to original bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Committee substitute, calendar, original bill placed on the unfavorable calendar. Introduction of bills and resolutions, the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House Bill 172, Representative Pearlson, Malone and Dollar, Fracking protection the public. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Environment, if favorable, Rules. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House Bill 173, Representatives Stam, Faircloth, Glazier and R. Turner, omnibus criminal law bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Judiciary 2. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House Bill 174, Representatives Bradford and Stam, Landlord/tenant foreclosure and eviction charges. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Judiciary 4. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House Bill 175, Representative Torbett, School Calendar Flexibility, Gaston County Schools. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Education K-12. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House Bill 176, Representative Stineberg, Citizenship test. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Education K-12. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House Bill 177, Representative Stineberg, School calendar flexibility, certain local education agencies. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Education K-12. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House Bill 178, Representative J. Bell, Jeeter, Malone and Carney, Spiritualist liquor testing, ABC stores. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alcoholic beverage control. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House Bill 179, Representatives Brockman, Harrison, B. Turner and R. Johnson, Form of government changes by referendum only. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Rules, Calendar and Operations of the House. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House Bill 180, Representatives Warren, Hardister, Malone, Glazier, legislative 40 year terms. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Elections, if favorable, Judiciary 1. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House Bill 181, Representative Lewis, Charter school grade level expansion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Education K-12. Messages from the Senate, the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The following messages received from the Senate. Senate Bill 37, Committee Substitute, 2nd edition, A bill to be entitled an act to provide the tuition waiver for survivers of law enforcement officers, firefighters or rescue squad workers or certain others, applies to children whose legal guardians or legal custodians are law enforcement officers, firefighters or rescue squad workers. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Bill is referred to Education, Universities. If favorable Appropriations. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Calendar, House Bill 43, the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representatives Conrad, Lambeth, Haines, Terry

House Bill 43, a bill to be entitled ‘An act providing that parking meters in the city of Winston-Salem may be activated by coins, tokens, cash, credit cards, debit cards or electronic means.’ The General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of House Bill 43 on its second reading. So many favoring passage of the bill will vote “aye”; those opposed will vote “no”. The Clerk will open the vote. Representatives Cleveland and Langdon, do the gentlemen wish to record on this local bill? Representative Warren, does the gentleman wish to record on this local bill? The Clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 116 having voted in the affirmative and none in the negative, House Bill 43 passes its second reading and will without objection be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of House Bill 43 on its third reading. So many favoring passage of the bill will say “aye”. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Those opposed will say “no”. The ayes have it, and House Bill 43 passes its third reading and will be sent to the Senate. House Bill 58. The Clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representatives Riddell, Ross; House Bill 58, a bill to be entitled ‘An act providing that the Alamance County Sheriff’s Office may contract for the purpose of food and supplies for the county’s detention facility without being subject to the requirements of certain state purchases and contract laws.’ The General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Alamance, Representative Riddell rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The House will come to order. The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Friends, this bill comes to us with the unanimous support of our county commissioners, and it’s a request to allow our local Sheriff’s Office to do what every LEA, every school district is currently allowed to do, and that’s to engage in the purchase of food locally for service in the cafeterias at the schools. Currently the state has a bidding process that’s required, and what we’re seeking with this local bill is to allow our Sheriff’s Department to purchase food locally to keep our dollars locally in Alamance County. We have some very talented grocers and farmers in Alamance County and we’d like to keep our money there. It’s also a cost saving for our county. The last state-bid price that we had per meal in our detention facility was $1.41 per meal. We have a current bill from a local provider at $1.17. That’s a 24 cent saving for a facility that serves over 15 hundred meals per day, so we’re talking about several hundred dollars in savings for our county over a year. That’s over $100,000 in savings. And finally, the quality of the food would be much improved. We can get local fresh produce. We can bring that and serve it in our detention center. We currently use the detainees for the food preparation service and cleanup, so this is a good operation that we want to do in Alamance County. I’d be happy to answer any questions, and Mr. Speaker, we do have a friendly amendment to follow. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Alamance, Representative Ross rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I won’t go back over all of the attributes that my colleague from Alamance talked about, but I will say that as someone who spent 20 years in local government, this is a good example of how sometimes we can do some things on a local basis and in this case save some real dollars. I think the figures are somewhere up around $100,000, and for a county like Alamance, that’s a lot of money, so I ask you to support the bill. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker? [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Scotland, Representative Pierce rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] To ask Representative Ross a question please. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentleman from Alamance yield to the gentleman from Scotland? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I do. [SPEAKER CHANGES] He yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I just wanted to ask you a question about that. When growing season is over… is this all year long or just growing season? How long would this process work for your Sheriff to do this? Is this growing season for certain fruits and vegetables, or could you explain it to me and help me understand that please? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Actually this is year long. Growing season only enhances the quality and freshness of the food. We have figured out in Alamance County through the use of our co-op and our local farmers how to really manage and have fresh, good local food pretty much year round. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Cumberland, Representative Floyd rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Send forth an amendment.

The gentleman is recognized to send forth an amendment. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Floyd moves to amend the bill on page 1, line 2 by deleting the words, the Alamance and substituting the word a. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman from Cumberland, Representative Floyd is recognized to debate the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mister speaker, I've spoken with our sheriff and our sheriff attorney, and they would like to be included in the bill, so. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I'm sorry, if the gentleman would please restate his question? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I've spoken with our sheriff. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Oh, the gentleman has the floor to debate the amendment, yes. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I, I've spoken with our sheriff, and he would like to be included on this bill, and I spoke with the bill sponsor and he has no objection to add Cumberland. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further discussion, further debate? For what purpose does the gentleman from Randolph, Representative McNeill rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak on the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman has the floor to debate the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I just wanted to say that it, also Randolph County is added on this also and for someone that administered the budget for a jail for over 20 years, this is an excellent thing and will allow the sheriff's office in Randolph and these listed counties to save some taxpayer money. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Rockingham, Representative Jones rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] To ask Representative Riddell a question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentleman from Alamance yield to the gentleman from Rockingham? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes, sir. [SPEAKER CHANGES] He yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, my friend. A friendly question. I cosponsored the bill. I certainly support it. Are you aware of anyone in this general assembly that represents a county that has conveyed to you any reason they would like to not see this be a statewide bill? I see it's being opened up now to several counties besides Alamance and I can't think of a reason why someone would not want for their county to be included with this. And so, are you aware of any opposition for this being statewide? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Jones, I'm not aware of any opposition in this chamber for, for that idea. However, we would like to keep this a local bill, and I'm happy to add on the counties that have requested be brought on with the amendment, but I would like to keep it under 15 so we remain a local bill, so this particular part of it can go through. If anyone would like to run it as a state bill, I would certainly be a happy sponsor, cosponsor such a bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mister speaker, does anyone yield for another question? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentleman from Alamance yield to a second question from the gentleman from Rockingham? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes, sir. [SPEAKER CHANGES] He yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, my friend. I wanted to ask you, if you would have a problem if I objected to, for a third reading. I might like to add my county to this, and there may be a few more that are less than 15. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mister speaker, what I'd be happy to do is after we can get this first amendment voted in is displace the bill, I'd be happy to take on any other counties as long as we don't go above the threshold to move this from a local bill to a public bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The, the, two things, one, a perfecting amendment may be done to this one. Additionally, the, because the bill changed the title, third reading of this bill will not happen until tomorrow so depending on how many counties get added to it, it might, this bill might be hanging out with us a while. So we'll see. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you mister speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the, further discussion, further debate on the, on amendment one sent forth by Representative Floyd? If not, the question before the House is the passage of the Floyd amendment to the House committee substitute to House bill 58. So many favoring adoption of the amendment will vote aye. Those opposed will vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 116 having voted in the affirmative and none in the negative, amendment one is adopted. Does the gentleman from Alamance wish to temporarily displace this bill to see if there are any additional amendments at this time, so we don't have to have a third reading or potentially another day on it? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes, sir. I'd like to get it wrapped up today, if we could. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Okay. Does the gentleman from Durham wish to speak to the displacement? [SPEAKER CHANGES] No, sir, I wish to go speak to the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Okay. The, it's the intention of the chair to just displace this bill at this time. All right, the bill is displaced at this time. House bill 41, the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representatives Howard, Brawley, Lewis, and Setzer

House Bill 41, a bill to be entitled ‘An act to make technical and clarifying changes to various revenue laws, as recommended by the Revenue Law Study Committee.’ The General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Bill’s on for its third reading. Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of the House committee substitute for House Bill 41 on its third reading. So many favoring passage of the bill will vote “aye”; those opposed will vote “no”. The Clerk will open the vote. Representative Ross, does the gentleman wish to be recorded on this vote? Representative Glazier, does the gentleman wish to be recorded on this vote? The Clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 116 having voted in the affirmative and none in the negative, the House committee substitute for House Bill 41 passes its third reading and will be sent to the Senate. House Bill 55. The Clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representatives Dollar, Langdon, Ross, D. Hall; House Bill 55, a bill to be entitled ‘An act to amend the law regarding pyrotechnic exhibition, authorized by North Carolina State University.’ The General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Wake, Representative Dollar, rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker and members of the House. This is a fairly straightforward bill. All it does is add North Carolina State University to two other institutions, the North Carolina School for the Arts and UNC at Chapel Hill, as being able to do these public exhibitions of fireworks on their campus under the supervision of their university fire marshal and as always the state marshal, so all it… the net effect of it is – and this just applies to NC State in Wake County – the effect of it is it just eliminates one of the permitting steps along the way for these pyrotechnic displays to be conducted. So we’re simply extending to NC State the same thing that’s been in place and working just fine over at UNC chapel Hill, so be happy to answer any questions. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? The question before the House is the passage of house Bill 55 on its second reading. So many favoring passage of the bill will vote “aye”; those opposed will vote “no”. The Clerk will open the vote. Representative Hanes, does the gentleman wish to be recorded on this vote? The Clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 117 having voted in the affirmative and none in the negative, House Bill 55 passes its second reading and will without objection be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of House Bill 55 on its third reading. So many favoring passage of the bill will say “aye”. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Those opposed will say “no”. The ayes have it and House Bill 55 passes its third reading and will be sent to the Senate. For what purpose does the gentleman from Sampson, Representative Bell rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to be recorded as voting “aye” on House Bill 41. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman will be recorded as having voted “aye” on House Bill 41. House Bill 71. The Clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representatives Hurley and McNeill; House Bill 71, a bill to be entitled ‘An act to clarify with whom the oath of office taken by members of each board county commissioners should be filed.’ The General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady from Hurley, Representative Randolph is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this truly is a clarifying bill. The clerk to our County Commissioners Board asked me to run this because some of the people, the Sheriff’s deputies and other people in the county, have to take oaths, and they make copies of them and file them, and some of them thought they needed to be filed with the Clerk of Superior Court, but this is to just clarify that they’re to be filed with the Clerk of the County Commissioners. This is just explaining that. Thank you. Appreciate your support. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of House bill 71 on its second reading. So many favoring passage of the bill will vote “aye”; those opposed will vote “no”. The Clerk will open the vote.

The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 117 having voted in the affirmative and none in the negative, House Bill 71 passes its second reading and will without objection be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of House Bill 71 on its third reading. So many favoring the passage of the bill will say aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Those opposed will say no. The ayes have it and House Bill 71 passes its third reading and will be sent to the Senate. Notices and announcements. Strike that. We were making really good time but then we forgot we have House Bill 58 still with us. Are there any additional amendments to House Bill 58. Let me ask this, are there any members who intend to seek an amendment to House Bill 58 to add their county. If there are if you would please turn on your light. Alright then. It looks like Hardister can’t make his mind up back there, he keeps turning his off and on. Alright, thank you, you can turn your lights off. Representative Rydell, would the gentleman simply wish to, actually the House will be just at ease for a moment. Members it appears there will be an amendment to add 12 counties to the bill which still keeps it as a local bill. If a member desires to have their county added to this bill, the Chair would encourage those members to touch base with Representative Rydell. I believe staff is actually working on an amendment now and it’s the chair’s intention probably just to do one amendment adding all those counties and then go ahead and do second reading today and then we can bring it back tomorrow for third reading and get the bill on over to the Senate. A few lights on, I don’t know if these are folks. I see Representatives Terry, Representatives Graham and Representatives Johnson. Do any of those members desire rising for a particular purpose or is just to, okay, alright. [gavel bangs] The House will come back to order. Members, in the interest of time the Chair is going to go ahead and open the floor up to notices and announcements and then after we take the next bill up the chair would intend to take a motion to adjourn. Notices and announcements, for what purpose does the lady from Randolph, Representative Hurley rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I rise to make an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady has the floor for an announcement. The House will come to order. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The Committee on Aging also known as the young at heart committee is meeting tomorrow at 11 o’clock in room 424. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the lady from Carterette, Representative McElraft rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] For an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady has the floor for an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The Joint Appropriations Committee on Agner will meet at 8:30 tomorrow morning. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Any additional notices and announcements? The clerk has a series of announcements. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House Committee on Judiciary 3 will meet Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 12:30 PM room 421 LOB. House Committee on Appropriations, Agricultural and Natural Resources will meet Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 8:30 AM Room 424 LOB. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Members for your planning purposes, session tomorrow will be at 10 AM and we are looking at session at 10 AM on Thursday but it’s not been fully determined and there may not be any votes on Thursday but stay posted for that. For what purpose does the representative from Pitt, Representative Brown rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] For an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman has the floor for an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Members the Committee on Health is currently on notice for 10AM in the morning. We are going to renotice that committee for 12 o’clock. 12 c’clock tomorrow for the Committee on Health. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Any additional notices or announcements? The House will be at ease while the amendment is prepared. [gavel bangs] The House will come back to order. Members, want to, the Chair would like to extend the courtesies of the gallery to two additional school groups that are with us right now. We have some folks from the Matthews Elementary School with us. If you all would please stand so we can welcome you. Thank you. [applause]

And we also have a school group from the Forsyth Academy in Winston-Salem if you all would please stand. Thank you for being with us. And school groups are wondering what we're doing. We're waiting on an amendment to be prepared. It's sort of like when you show up for school and you had, forgot you had some homework to do and you're having to do it real quick before the teacher comes back in. So that's what we're doing right now. For what purpose does the gentleman from Pitt, Representative Brown rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] For another announcement, mister speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman has the floor for an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Members, I just previously noticed that the committee on Health will be moved to noon in respect for a Chapel that takes place at noon, we're going to renotice the committee once again for 12:30. So the committee on Health will be renoticed for 12:30 tomorrow. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Rowan, Representative Ford rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] For an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman has the floor for an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you mister speaker. The local government committee scheduled to meet Thursday at 11, we will not meet. We put it off for another week. We'll meet next Thursday for local government. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the majority leader, Representative Hager of Rutherford County rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Point of personal privilege, Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Just a moment. The House will come to order. The gentleman from Rutherford is recognized to speak to a moment of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you mister speaker. I couldn't help but notice, I wanted to compliment you on your selection of your reading clerk this year. Mr. Reggie Seals. Reggie has served us great in my committees, and I do appreciate him being there. So thank you mister speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I'm sorry, the chair, the gentleman had his microphone a little far away. I was just trying to send a signal. I didn't do a good job to say that I couldn't hear. And I can't hear. This is great. For what purpose does the gentleman from Guilford, Representative Faircloth rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] For an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman has the floor for an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, mister speaker. The joint appropriations, justice, and public safety committee will meet tomorrow morning, room 415, 8:30 AM. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the lady from Surrey, Representative Stevens rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Inquiry of the chair. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady is recognized to state an inquiry. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mister speaker, I was concerned you said session would meet at 10 tomorrow and 10 on Thursday. Question is on Wednesday, will we be finished in time to continue the judiciary 3 meeting at 12:30, and are we gonna have a brief enough session that we can still meet our regular time for children, youth, and families at Thursday at 11? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I believe that both of those committees will be able to meet. I know the rules chairs are working on putting a calendar together at this time, so I believe the lady is safe on both of those meetings. The gentleman from Cumberland, Representative Floyd is recognized to send forth an amendment. Members, the House committee substitute for House bill 58 is back before the House. Representative Floyd is recognized to send forth an amendment. Clerk will read the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Floyd moves to amend the bill as amended by amendment one by rewriting section two to read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman from Cumberland has the floor to debate the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mister speaker, what we're asking, since we have a little small break, is those committees, is it on the dashboard, mister speaker? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes, the amendment is on the dashboard. [SPEAKER CHANGES] If, if you would look at those counties that added, and we ask for your support on those counties that were added. Thank you, sir. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the lady from Wake, Representative Holley rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] To, well I guess, well, no I have a comment about the amendment. I'd like to speak on the amendment. It looks like it's so many venders now and having done contracts, one of the things that does when you've got 58 exceptions to the contracts it makes, changes the flavor of the initial contract. We might need to take a look at that before we vote on it because 58 is an awful lot of people to now get off of a term contract. Don't know who to put that to, but I think we might need to take a closer look at that before we do 58 people. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Durham, Representative Michaux rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mister speaker, to speak on the amendment which will fix the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman has the floor to debate the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The way I read this bill and adding all of these other counties to it is that if you are taking out of all of these counties with this amendment, them being subject to chapter 143 section 129, and chapter 143 section 130, which will allow, which will allow all of these folks to sole source contracts for food for their jail. In other words

It's going to be left up to whoever's doing it, to give anybody they want to that contract, and I'm more concerned about opting out of 143-131, which says that all public entities shall submit, solicit minority participation in contracts. And that's, if you pass this bill, that's exactly what's going to happen, it's going to be a sole source contract that goes out, and I would oppose not only the amendment but the bill, too. [SPEAKER CHANGES]For what purpose does the gentleman from Alamance, Representative Riddell, rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES]To speak on the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES]The gentleman has the floor the debate the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Thank you, Mr. Speaker and thank you House members for your indulgence as we work through this. Folks, this is a good amendment, and what it does is allow your sheriffs, your local detention facilities the right to purchase food locally, to keep your local dollars in the pockets of your local citizens, your grocers, and your farmers. That's what this is about, it's about providing flexibility, the same exact flexibility that every single school district in North Carolina currently enjoys. it has nothing to do, absolutely, absolutely nothing to do with what my friend, Representative Michaux just spoke on. This has nothing to do with trying to avoid minority contracts, it has everything to do with better quality food which resolves problems in our detention facilities. When the inmates have better food, there's less problems for the people trying to keep them in detention. It provides savings for the counties, substantial savings. I'm not sure about your county, but $100,000 plus savings per year for Alamance County is $100,000 that can go any other number of places. And again, it's simply local flexibility. There will be contracts, there will be oversight by the duly elected county commissioners. This is not slipping under anybody's radar, this is still duly reviewed and there will be accountability and transparency. So, I encourage you, please vote green on the amendment, and thank you again for your patience as we work through this. I haven't been this popular, Mr. Speaker, since third grade when DeeDee Mall was my girlfriend. [SPEAKER CHANGES]For what purpose does the gentleman from Cumberland, Representative Glazier, rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES]To speak on the amendment, please. [SPEAKER CHANGES]The gentleman has the floor the debate the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES]And I'm going to support the amendment because I think it aids the counties it needs to, but I'm going to do that with the recognition that there really is an issue to talk about before people vote on the amendment, to talk about the Section 143-131, that's in the bill as well. So, I'll hold my comments on 131 until we get to the bill, but I would say to my from Alamance, because I think the purpose of the bill and the amendment are really good, and I certainly understand the abrogation from 129. But, 131 does exactly what Representative Michaux said, it contains the minority contracting provisions, so there really is an issue about that, but I'll vote for the amendment to add all the counties that want, but I think before we do a third reading on this bill, we ought to get at least some sense of what's happening to 131 requirements. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES]For what purpose does the gentleman from Durham, Representative Michaux, rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES]I just wanted to ask the gentleman from Alamance, Representative Riddell a question. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Does the gentleman from Alamance yield to the gentleman from Durham? [SPEAKER CHANGES]Absolutely. [SPEAKER CHANGES]He yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Representative Riddell, do you realize that with the wording in your bill as it is now, that it opts out whether you intended it or not, that it opts out 143-129, which requires that minority contracts be sought out and these types of things? Are you aware of that? [SPEAKER CHANGES]Am I aware that it exempts? [SPEAKER CHANGES]That under the bill that you have here, that it would take out Section 143-129, would take that out, and that section says that you have to solicit minority contracts in instances like this. Are you aware that this what that bill would. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Have we voted, Mr. Speaker? [SPEAKER CHANGES]The gentleman from Craven is recognized to a point of order. The gentleman will state his point of order. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Are we on the amendment or are we on the bill? [SPEAKER CHANGES]Is the gentleman from Durham directing his question relevant.

To the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To the amendment, yes. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman from Alamance has the floor to debate the amendment, or excuse me, to answer the question proposed by the gentleman from Durham. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Could you propose the question one more time, please? [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to restate the question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The question is under the amendment that’s added to the bill, do you understand that those counties that are being added would in fact be opted out of section 1, GS143-129 which requires the solicitation of minority contracts? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Is that the status currently for the school districts? Can they opt out of minority contracts as well? [SPEAKER CHANGES] No. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Well, it’s certainly not the purpose of this bill to avoid any kind of minority setbacks like that. It will still have the oversight of every single county commissioner aboard. There is still oversight. There will still be the requirement of accountability and transparency. This is not an attempt to circumvent any kind of minority set asides, this is simply an attempt to put the purchasing power back in the hands of the local government where I believe it belongs in this instance. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Cumberland, Representative Floyd rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, for time’s sake, the bill will have a third reading tomorrow. Could we go on with. [SPEAKER CHANGES] If the bill will in fact have third reading tomorrow. [SPEAKER CHANGES] So my question is since this is my amendment I would like to call for the question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman may state his motion. The gentleman may state his motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, I call for the, I move that the question be before the House. That we vote on amendment H58H2. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman from Cumberland I believe has moved the previous question. The question before the House is the motion for previous question made by the gentleman from Cumberland. So many favoring the motion for previous question will vote aye, those opposed will vote no, the clerk will open the vote. The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 96 having voted in the affirmative and 18 in the negative, the previous question has been passed. Subject to the rules, do either the minority or majority leader desire to comment on this bill? Strike that, on the amendment? Seeing no lights illuminated, the question before the House is the adoption of amendment 2 set forth by Representative Floyd to the House Committee Substitute of House Bill 58. So many favoring the adoption of the amendment will vote aye, those opposed will vote no, the clerk will open the vote. The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote, 111 having voted in the affirmative and 5 in the negative, the amendment is adopted and we’re now back on the bill. Further discussion or debate on the bill as amended. For what purpose does the gentleman from Nash, Representative Collins rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] To ask Representative Riddell a question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentleman from Alamance yield to the gentleman from Nash. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Absolutely. [SPEAKER CHANGES] He yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Riddell, there’s only one thing that popped up in my mind when I read this and that it I notice that the law, that it becomes law effective, in other words it becomes effective immediately, what we’re passing. As a business person my only concern with that is would that cause us to be breaking any contracts that have already been signed if we make, if we make this effective immediately. [SPEAKER CHANGES] My understanding is contracts in existence would be determined by the county commissioners who entered into the contracts. This is not a contact entered into by a sheriff. This is a contract entered into by the county governing body and they would have to sort through what they want to do with their contracts from this point. It just gives them the opportunity, it gives them the flexibility to go local. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Follow up. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentleman yield to an additional question from the gentleman from Nash. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes. [SPEAKER CHANGES] He yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I think what you told me is that we’re not giving the counties permission to break any contracts they’ve already entered into, is that correct? [SPEAKER CHANGES] It would be up to each individual county’s, county’s attorney to make that kind of decision for you. I couldn’t begin to hazard a conjecture on that. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Burke, Representative Blackwell rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I’d like to ask a question of my friend Representative Glazier if I may. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentleman from Cumberland yield to the gentleman from Burke. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I do, Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] He yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Glazier, I’m concerned about the concern that you and Representative Michaux raised. In looking at section 143-13

One, I’m wondering if I’m maybe reading it incorrectly. It appears to me that subsection a doesn’t have anything to do with minority contracts at all but that the reference and application to minority contracts is in subsection b and it says that all public entities shall list minority participation in contracts for the erection, construction, alteration or repair of any building or [??] pursuant to this section and the rest of the subsection I read as referring to that limited type of contract which would not be encompassed by this particular legislation which is dealing with purchasing food and I’m wondering if you see that as an incorrect reading on my part? [SPEAKER CHANGES] No, I actually agree with that reading as I’m going. That’s just what I was talking with staff about in the back. I’m wondering frankly if the thing to do here is to amend the bill to say that it applies under 143-131a because b clearly has the minority contracting provision but in my view, I agree with you, does not apply, yet it’s encompassed in the bill. It might solve the problem by simply specifcying that we’re talking about subsection a which is I think what it’s getting at and takes us out of the b problem or creating any opportunity for there to be a b problem. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Mecklenberg, Representative Bishop rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] To ask the gentleman from Alamance a question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentleman from Alamance yield to the gentleman from Mecklenberg. [SPEAKER CHANGES] My popularity continues. [SPEAKER CHANGES] He yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] You have said on a couple of occasions that this allows for local food service in the jail, but isn’t it true that local governments, counties and municipalities, let bids all the time locally for contracts that they need? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes, but there is a, you know, a statutory amount of I think $500,000 for things that must be let out to bid. [SPEAKER CHANGES] In the absence of this. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentleman wish to prepare a second question? [SPEAKER CHANGES] If I could, yes. [SPEAKER CHANGES] And does the gentleman from Alamance yield to a second question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I do, [SPEAKER CHANGES] He yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] In the absence of this bill would this contract be subject to the core requirement of public bidding and the award to the bidder, the low qualified bidder. [SPEAKER CHANGES] If this bill passes. [SPEAKER CHANGES] If it doesn’t pass. [SPEAKER CHANGES] If it does not pass. If the bill does not pass than current law would remain. [SPEAKER CHANGES] And that, may I ask another question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for an additional question. Does the gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I do. [SPEAKER CHANGES] He yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The current law is then that this service would be required to be publicly bid. [SPEAKER CHANGES] There is some legal disputation to whether food as a commodity comes under the definition of equipment, apparatus, things like that. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Chairman, I’d like to ask one more question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentleman from Alamance yield to an additional question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I do. [SPEAKER CHANGES] He yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Is there something about the provision of food in particular that makes it appropriate to exempt from the requirement of bidding that is usually applicable in contracting. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I think that’s a question for 115 local school districts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Randolph, Representative McNeill rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Having been involved in the process of purchasing food for jails for over 20 years I just thought I’d throw my two cents in. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Apparently it seems to me that everybody has been trying to paint this that if this bill passes that the food service manner to jail will just be able to do willy nilly what they want. Now I don’t know how every county in the state does it, but in Randolph county the food service manager has several layers that they have to go through to purchase food. You know, there was a supervisor at the jail that those purchases had to go through and then after that they came through me and then they went to the Finance Department at the county. The Finance Officer worked for the county commissioner, so it goes through several different processes. It’s not just like the lady that’s preparing the meals just picks up the phone and says I want to order this stuff, so there is a process. Also, those of you that have been involved in county government before, I think you know that the state purchasing law allows that commissioners some flexibility in laws that are the way that they do apply those rules and regulations. Not every county, some counties are stricter in how they apply these and some counties are

More lax in how they apply them but they are allowed a lot of latitude on the local level as to how to do that. And just piggybacking on what Representative Riddell said, there is a lot of debate when you start dealing into these purchasing laws, and as to whether food falls under the category whether you have to get competitive bids. I'll just give you an example, and it has nothing to do with food but when we bought used vehicles at the Sheriff's office, we didn't have to go out for competitive bids, because how do you get a competitive bid on a used vehicle? So there are exceptions to all the purchasing laws. I think it's a, it's a good bill, and I recommend passage. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the lady from Wake, Representative Holley rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I'd like to address the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady has the floor to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] There are some things that I can answer. First of all, for used equipment, for used vehicles, used equipment are by statute exempted, in the laws saying used equipment subject to prior sale. You can also sole source venders but you have to have good, strong reasons for going to sole source. Buying local is really well intended and in many instances, it is what is needed in, in some cases. We need the opportunity to buy local. But when you buy local, you mess up existing contracts. When a contract is based upon the volume of maybe ten counties, and you take maybe nine out of the ten counties out, then the vender who has that contract now has a pricing mechanism in effect, but his pricing mechanism in effect is for ten counties, and then he's unable to fulfill the obligations of that contract. I personally feel that this bill needs to go back to a committee and we need to look at it a little bit closer, because the adding, the exemption of one or two counties is one thing, but when you're talking about 58 counties, you're talking about changing a statewide procurement system that we really need to seriously take a look at. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman from Cumberland, Representative Glazier is recognized to send forth an amendment. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Glazier moves to amend the bill on page one, line nine by deleting GS 143-131 and substituting GS 143-131. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman from Cumberland has the floor to debate the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you very much mister speaker. I think this solves part of the problem, I hope. So, I agree with Representative Blackwell's interpretation and what this does, if you look at 143-131, there are two subsections. A is what I think the Representatives from Alamance and those who are involved want to be exempted from, but that doesn't deal with minority contracting issues. B does. This doesn't, this amendment means they're not exempted to the extent it applies from the minority contracting provisions. That issue at least, is taken out of the debate. People may still have their agreement or disagreement on the sole source issue on 129, but I think this amendment resolves the minority participation issue in 143, and I would encourage adoption of the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Alamance, Representative Riddell rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak on the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman has the floor to debate the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Friends, this was a simple bill. I agree with the amendment. I thank Representative Glazier for putting it forth, and I urge you to vote green on the amendment as offered. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Durham, Representative Michaux rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak on the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman has the floor to debate the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speaker and ladies and gentlemen of the House, this amendment is good for, as far as it goes, and what it does is leave in the minority contracting portion of 129 of 131, sorry. 143-131, but GS 43-129 allows them to do a sole source contract. Period, in the report, whether or not they solicit minority participation or not, they can still do a sole source contract without, without opening up bidding at all, and that is one of the things that many of us have fought for over the years is a sole source contracting situation which does what this does, and this is why the, all intents and purposes, the amendment is good as far as it goes, but when you look at the whole situation, you still have a sole source problem involved.

For what purpose does the gentleman from Union, Representative Arp rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] To see if Representative Glazier would yield for a question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentleman from Cumberland yield to the gentleman from Union. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes, sir. [SPEAKER CHANGES] He yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I’m trying to follow you and I too picked up on that this deal with minority contracting regarding construction issues. Could you explain again to me the effect of the amendment on, because I understand what you’re trying to say but I’m thinking that the amendment actually, your amendment actually has no effect on the bill. Does it? [SPEAKER CHANGES] It may or may not depending on how you read 131b. I read it as Representative Blackwell does, so I don’t think it was involved to begin with, but since the bill as originally written encompassed both a and b, to get any doubt out of there that we’re doing anything with the minority contracting provision, this simply takes that subsection out of the debate so that it’s not an issue and therefore you’re left with a decision of the gist of the bill plus Representative Michaux’s concern on 129, but it gets the minority contracting provision on 131 out of the debate. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate on the amendment? If not, the question before the House is the adoption of amendment 3 offered by Representative Glazier to the House Committee Substitute to House Bill 58. So many favoring the adoption of the amendment will vote aye, those opposed will vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote, 112 having voted in the affirmative and 1 in the negative the amendment is adopted. We’re now back on the bill as amended. Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question. For what purpose does the gentleman from Mecklenberg rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Competitive bidding is an annoyance but it is something that the state has required adherence to, has required municipalities and counties to adhere to for good and sound reasons. You may in a particular circumstance not get the low bid or the lowest price by having a competitive bid process, but over the long haul you will and more importantly over the long haul public bidding and the requirement to advertise for competitive bids, accept bids and award a contract to the lowest qualified bidder provides protection against ultimately in some place, in some part of North Carolina, exercise of influence in contracting. The question it seems to me arises, even if you have a situation in which you could now replace a contractor for a lower price, what happens in the future? How long will that contracting relationship exist? When will it be exposed to competitive bidding in the future? How will you know that market circumstances haven’t changed such that you’re still getting the lowest price? There are many other circumstances. As I’m at a disadvantage as a new member. I do not know why the school systems have been exempted and I concede the point, they appear to be exempted from article 8 that all other political subdivisions are required to follow. I don’t know how that’s wise. I don’t know how the provision of food service is different and they justify that and we haven’t heard that in this debate. What I do know is there are many other circumstances that I’m familiar with in which these same laws govern contracting processes and difficult questions could come to pass if propositions come forward to exempt those from the public bidding process. It is good policy for a clean government and I’m gonna have to oppose the bill. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the lady from Mecklenberg, Representative Schaffer rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] To request that my vote be changed on the Glazier amendment. I accidentally voted no. I’d like to change it to aye please. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady will be recorded as having voted aye on the Glazier amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Randolph, Representative McNiell rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] To ask the bill sponsor, Representative Rydell a question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentleman from Alamance yield to the gentleman from Randolph? [SPEAKER CHANGES] This is a world record in popularity. Yes, sir. [SPEAKER CHANGES] He yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] If your bill passes would the commissioners of your county still be able to require your jail to get competitive bids for food if it’s even required to get them? [SPEAKER CHANGES] When the bill passes, yes. They still will have the oversight that they currently enjoy on all bidded contracts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. Debate the bill

The gentleman from Randolph has the floor to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] It's a good bill. There's still a lot of layers of supervision there. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Durham, Representative Hall rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak on the bill briefly. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you mister speaker, and just a quick analysis to say we could certainly bid, or open bids for local food at our jails and have a bid, and if there was no competitive bid then a different situation would take place. But I agree with Representative Bishop from the standpoint that when possible, having a bidding process is valuable and it helps keep your price down. We all would hope and the opportunity for the county commissioners to have oversight. It wouldn't be required necessarily that they examine this particular issue regarding the bid. So I have to agree with what he said about the fact that competitive bidding is helpful, and if we could do it at a local level, and say we have two producers or providers of food at the local level, they can bid. Whichever one is the best bid, we restricted it to the local area and took the best bid. So I would oppose the bill as it is now, but certainly if we could modify it to say it allows competitive bidding limited to local area suppliers or producers, I think that achieves what we're trying to get done here, both bilocally as well as ensure we have a competitive bidding process where available. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Question before the House is the passage of House committee substitute for House bill 58 on its second reading. So many favoring passage of the bill will vote aye. Those opposed will vote no. The clerk will open the vote. Representative Speciale, does the gentleman wish to record on this vote? Clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 94 having voted in the affirmative and 21 in the negative, the House committee substitute for 58 passes its second reading. The chair orders the amendment engrossed into the bill and much to the pleasure of the chair and most members, the bill will be on tomorrow's calendar for a third reading. Representatives Catlin and McElraft are recognized to set forth a committee report. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Catlin and McElraft, environment committee report, House bill 157, amend environmental laws. Favorable committee substitute. Unfavorable original bill, and rereferred to finance. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Committee substitute is referred to the committee on finance. Original bill, unfavorable, calendar. Notices and announcements? For what purpose does the gentleman from Transylvania, Representative Whitmire rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] For an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman has the floor for an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Just want to advise everybody on the homeland security, military, veteran's affairs committee that is scheduled for noon on Thursday. As circumstances dictate and we will see, I guess we never cease to be amazed at the surprises. If Thursday is a non vote session, we will meet at 10 and standby for further changes. The reason for the insistence on finally having the committee meet is we've had every meeting canceled thus far, and we have a very pertinent topic that we'll be briefed on, and I hope those, I hope to get it in, and that's why we'll plan on having it 10 Thursday unless other circumstances dictate. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the lady from Orange, Representative Insko rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] For an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady has the floor for an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. Democrats who have been planning to meet with Dr. Cummings to review some issues in Medicaid, if you'll watch your emails, we're trying to change that meeting from 12:30 to 12 because there have been two committees scheduled for 12:30, and the reason I'm doing this is because every meeting I've tried to have scheduled so far has been canceled. So please watch your emails for the final announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further notice, notices and announcements? If not, the gentleman from Harnett, Representative Lewis is recognized for a motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mister speaker, I move that the House adjourn to reconvene Wednesday, March 11 at 10 o'clock AM. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Is that motion subject to receipt of messages from the Senate, rereferral of bills and resolutions, and appointment of conferees? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mister speaker, it most certainly is. I, I misstated it. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I knew we were on the same wavelength there. Representative Lewis moves, seconded by Representative Stam, the House adjourn subject to messages from the Senate, rereferral of bills and resolutions, and appointment of conferees, to reconvene Wednesday, March 11 at 10 o'clock AM. Those in favor, please signify by saying aye. Those opposed no. The ayes have it. We stand adjourned.