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House | April 30, 2013 | Committee Room | House Education

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Officer hearing to simply allow the superintendent to make use of the designee. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Representative Blackwell. Do we have any questions? Do we have a motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Oh, we have a question? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes. Over here. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Adams. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair. A question for the bill sponsor. You mentioned that the superintendent could designate, who would likely be designated? At what level, would it be an assistant or would it be another classroom teacher or, can you speak to that a little bit? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The bill does not attempt to specify who the superintendent would designate. It would be in his or her discretion. My assumption is it would be probably a personnel, a human resources director, or an associate superintendent with responsibilities over personnel, but someone reasonably high up the food chain within the LEA who would have knowledge of the circumstances involved with the personnel involved in the particular decision. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Follow up. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Adams. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair. So you mentioned that the Board of Education would approve it. Now would they do each approval or would this be something that would be put into the board policy? How would that appear? [SPEAKER CHANGES] The bill would leave that up to the local board. My expectation is that the school board would exercise its discretion in each instance based on its judgment about whether they needed the superintendent personally to be present for the particular hearing that was being held. But I suppose that under the wording of the statute, and I'll maybe ask staff if they agree, that they might could have some sort of policy that in general they were excused and could use the designee. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Cara? Have any remarks? [SPEAKER CHANGES] The bill is fairly straightforward. It doesn't provide any requirements for policy. It simply would allow the superintendent, if it had the consent, to appoint a designee, and it doesn't go further than that. If there was an intent to want to add a policy or other requirements, that may need to be added into the language. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I would say in further, my intent was to basically leave that to the board and the superintendent to work out between them. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Collins. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Just for a motion at the appropriate time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] And we got more questions? If not, this is the appropriate time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Like to move that we give a favorable report to House bill 896. [SPEAKER CHANGES] You hear the motion. All those in favor. All opposed no. Congratulations. Now we're going to want to go to House bill 754 and House bill 903, and we're gonna handle by the, Representative Starnes and we'll start with House bill 754. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair, ladies and gentlemen of the committee. House bill 754. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Wait, wait just a minute, I'm sorry, Representative Starnes. I tried to PCS the other one, and this one really does have a PCS, and Representative Jeter moves that the PCS be before us. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chairman, ladies and gentlemen of the committee. The proposed committee substitute for House bill 754 would authorize the community colleges to acquire real property by a lease purchase agreement. Be authorized by the trustees of the community college, it would be used, be paid for with local money from the county commissioners, they would have to agree to it, and it would have an approval by the local government commission. I urge your support. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Ross? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chairman. I think this is a great bill, and at the appropriate time I'd like to make a motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Do we have any more, any questions? If not, it's appropriate time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move that we give House bill 754 a favorable report. Proposed committee substitute, was that before us though? Yeah, the proposed committee substitute for House bill 754, a favorable report, unfavorable as to the original bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion. All those in favor? All opposed? Okay, congratulations.

Congratulations Representative Starnes. Now we'll go to House Bill 903. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Madam Chair. This is a PCS. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Do I have a motion for the PCS to be before us? Representative Dixon moves. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Madam Chair. Ladies and Gentlemen of the committee. The proposed committee substitute for House bill 903 UNC and community college credit transfers is a bill to require the University of North Carolina system to accept college credits transferring in from our community college system. This transfer into credits is known as a comprehensive articulation agreement. This bill was first passed in 1995 by former Representative Robert Grady. 18 years later, very little progress has been made in getting the university system to accept community college credits. Currently, English is the only subject universally accepted by our university system. The original intent of this legislation was to allow students to take core subjects such as english, math, science, and history at the community college and then have these subjects transferred to the university of their choice. Sadly, this has not happened. Students enroll in courses at our community colleges with the expectation that these credits will transfer. Some UNC institutions are accepting these credits while others are not. We need this articulation agreement to be enforced so that community college credits are universally accepted. This bill requires a biannual review of the comprehensive articulation agreement with a progress report to be made to the joint legislative oversight committee by November of each year. I will answer any questions and I urge your support. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Do we have any questions? Representative Pittman. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Motion at perfect time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Ross. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam Chair, I'd like to hear from a Representative from the UNC system on why this might not be happening at all the institutions whether there's a reason for it. [SPEAKER CHANGES] There is. Is there someone from the university system that wants to speak on it? Identify yourself please. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Drew Barretts University of North Carolina General Administration. My understanding is these agreements have been hammered out over years. There are agreements in place. We hear from time to time anecdotes that they're not being pursued and agreed upon but we haven't heard the types of challenges that were mentioned here. We have someone from the community college that might be able to help and answer that a little bit better. [SPEAKER CHANGES] May I ask him a follow up, Madam Chair? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes certainly. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the University system support this bill? I just want to get a feel. [SPEAKER CHANGES] We don't have a position on this bill at this point. We certainly want to say that we are working very well with community college system on an updated ?? agreement and certainly intend to live by those ?? agreements that have been made. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Brandon and then Representative Michaux. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Starnes. Thank you Madam Chair. Representative Starnes, I understand the bill because I was a victim of this but I will say that does this look good for the whole entire school system because I know that the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill or East Carolina might have different requirements and I do have some problems with some of the times because we have community college folks that go in under a lot of remedial courses and just because they've passed that English course does not necessarily, I think, make sure that they are at a place where at NC State that their English criteria is there versus someone at Appalachian State. It would make the assumption that all of our 16 universities are at the same position when you walk in the door. I'm not sure that's the case simply just because of the selection criteria. Someone can graduate from college, I mean from high school with a 2.8 and get into Appalachian State but they do not get into the UNC Chapel Hill simply based off of what their level is so the same applies for when you come out of a community college. Just because you come out of a community college does not necessarily mean that you're at the level of work for that particular institution. But you're right I did go in with the whole notion that all of my credits were gonna be transferred and they did not so I get with you on that but my question is have you looked at the fact that the

Where our sixteen universities have different starting points, and it's, to me, it would be very difficult for me to say that everybody that comes out of this English course at this particular community college should be accepted at all sixteen universities when they all have different levels of what that looks like. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Starnes, would you like to reply? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Brandan, that's the purpose of the articulation agreement. To make sure that the standards for the course credits are the same at the community college are the same as the university system. Now you referenced English, well the English is the only subject that's universally accepted. You can take the English at the Caldwell Community College and it would transfer to Chapel Hill State, Elizabeth City State, Pembroke, wherever you want to go, but the other subjects are not transferring. They will in some, and they aren't in others. But that's the purpose of the articulation agreement, so that you set the standards to make sure that the coursework is the same. But I will say this. I'm confident that the course you take at the community college level and these course subjects is excellent educational teaching. When you're at a community college, you get the professor. When you're at the university level, you're lucky if you get more than a graduate student. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Excuse me madam chair. [SPEAKER CHANGES] In time, in time. Now Edgar? Representative Michaux. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Now I think he's wrong on that. But anyway, that's his opinion. Let me ask you this, just, are you sure that the community colleges can offer the same type of instruction that you get in a university system in order to be able to transfer those? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Starnes, I don't know if you know, but Sharon Morrissey is here with the community college. She may can answer that. [SPEAKER CHANGES] That'll be fine. [SPEAKER CHANGES] That'd be better. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. Good morning Representative Starnes, madam chair. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes, if you'll identify yourself for the record, please. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I'm Sharon Morrissey, I'm the chief academic officer for the North Carolina community college system. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Okay. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Can you answer the question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. The question is do the community colleges offer the same level? [SPEAKER CHANGES] The same level of instruction in these courses to be transferred to a university system. [SPEAKER CHANGES] All fifty eight of the community colleges offer an associate in arts degree program which is the first two years of a four year baccalaureate degree, and these courses in the agreement that we're working on right now with the university system, these courses are at the same level as courses that are their equivalents within the university system. We have asked the UNC faculty and community college faculty who are meeting now to identify thirty hours of common course equivalency that is guaranteed to transfer to each of the sixteen universities as course equivalency credits, so there will be a guarantee of a minimum of thirty hours that will be mapped to undergraduate general education classes at each of the universities. [SPEAKER CHANGES] So, follow up. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Follow up. [SPEAKER CHANGES] So you are now in the process of doing this now, and you are working with the university system to go through that without this legislation. Is that correct? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes sir, that is correct. The comprehensive articulation agreement as has already been said has been in place since actually 1997 based on 1995 legislation. We're refining and revising the agreement to create a guarantee of transfer credit for community college students who are currently facing obstacles in transferring their credits from community colleges to universities. [SPEAKER CHANGES] One more follow up. [SPEAKER CHANGES] No ma'am, I've got a statement. I think, I don't think we need this legislation simply because they are now working, it appears that they are now working on the situation. If you come in and you put forced legislation on them, there's no telling what the quality of that will be because of the legislation that you are about to enact. I think the path that they are taking now with the University system and the community college system working together to get those done, and I think they will do it right rather than forcing, having some forced legislation out there that may be done simply because, community college say, well, now we got this bill in here. We don't have to go, you don't

That's my statement on that. [SPEAKER CHANGERS] Representative Adams. [SPEAKER CHANGERS] Thank you. I would direct my question to the speaker. You indicated that there is an articulation agreement in place and that the courses that are currently transfered, it's my understanding, they fulfill the general education requirement. What about other courses that may not fulfill that requirement. Are they received as electives who apply to the students program? [SPEAKER CHANGERS] Madam Chair. [SPEAKER CHANGERS] Yes. [SPEAKER CHANGERS] Thank you, that's an excellent question. The work that is being done on the revision to the articulation agreement is based on sixty hours of transfer credit. The first 30 would be the guaranteed general education transfer courses. The second 30 would be pre-major courses that are mapped according to a student's desired university major and transfer institution. So the second 30 hours would be designed based on whatever the student picks as his major he wants to go into and the university he wants to transfer into. Upon completion of the entire 60 hours, what we're proposing to the 2 governing boards is that the student will receive 60 hours of transfer course credit as well as satisfaction as completing the general education undergraduate corps and the pre-major courses necessary to get into the major of the students choice. [SPEAKER CHANGERS] Follow up ?? [SPEAKER CHANGERS] Yes. Representative Adams. [SPEAKER CHANGERS] So, Representative Starns and I think mentioned something about problems. And I think you may have suggested that in your comments earlier. What kinds of problems are you experiencing now with the transferring of these credits? [SPEAKER CHANGERS] Yes. [SPEAKER CHANGERS] Thank you. The current articulation agreement, the one that's been in place since 1997, is based on the assumption that the student is going to complete 44 hours general education course work. We call that the 44 hour general education core. There is a guarantee wrapped around the completion of the core in the current articulation agreement. The majority of community college students do not complete the 44 hour core before they transfer. Therefore they lose the guarantees that are associated with the completion of the 44 hour core. When they lose those guarantees, then their courses are articulated on a course by course basis, meaning that often, they're given elective credit for those courses instead of general education course credit. So that's the primary barrier. [SPEAKER CHANGERS] Madam Chair, if I ask the bill sponsor a question. [SPEAKER CHANGERS] Certainly. [SPEAKER CHANGERS] Representative Starns, so is what the system is doing. Is that not satisfactory to you? The courses that you say are not being transfered, are they courses that don't meet the general education requirement, or can you be a little more specific about it? And why you don't think what they're doing now is applicable. [SPEAKER CHANGERS] The purpose of the law in 1995, which went into effect, in 1997, was to say that if you took an english or science or math or history course at a community college, which the intention of going, the community college for two years and then transferring to a four year institution to get your degree, the goal was to make sure that the work you did at community college was of university qualities, so it would transfer. What has happened, 15 years later is the only subject that's universally accepted is English. The others may be accepted or they may not be. But typically they're accepted as an electives. So you come in to the university, you start out at Calwel community college and you move to UNC, and then you've got to take your math course again. You've got to take your science course again. You've got to take your history course again, because they didn't transfer. They were just accepted as electives. So you're taking the course twice. Lot of people are going to the community college for two years because it's the only affordable way to that they can go to college. And it's disappointing and discouraging to the students and to the parents as well that when they think that they've taken the course work, and they transfer, the courses don't follow them. And they have to take it again. So it becomes expensive. And what the 1995 legislative

Said was that you're gonna have an articulation agreement. And the University works with the community college to make sure that what's taught at the community college level is an equivalent to what's being taught at the university level so that there's no problem in making the transfers. It's fifteen years, and we've got one course that's universally accepted. I just don't think that is making work towards progress or what, we grade the schools, wanna make sure they're making progress. That's not a very good progress report. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Speciale. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speciale. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speciale. You do realize that every time I chair, you ask a question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] That's fine, I know when you're looking at me that you're talking to me, so. I think we do need this, the question was raised whether or not we need this legislation, and I think we do. It's been eighteen years since this legislation was written, and we're still trying to iron it out. And how many, we've got eighteen years, what, almost eighteen years' worth of people who have spent money at the community college, spent time at the community college, and here it is eighteen years later and we're still trying to work out the kinks. I definitely think that we need to pass this piece of legislation. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. Representative Luebke? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair. I had thought based on my day job that, that this was already happening, Representative Starnes. I know that at UNCG, in my department, we always take the Sociology courses that people have taken at any community college, any of the 58 community colleges. So I guess my question is, what data do you have to suggest that this is a problem? And maybe you answered that and I missed it, but what's the source of your data to say that the sixteen campuses are not doing what the articulation agreement, which I supported back in '95, is not, supposed to do? What are they not doing? What evidence do you have? [SPEAKER CHANGES] The evidence is the evidence that is presented by the community college system that they educate the students, then the student goes to transfer, then they get the reports back that this credit did not transfer, they will accept it as an elective. So the evidence comes from the community college system and I'll, there are people here that can answer specifically if you want more evidence. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Follow up, madam chair? Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes sir. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Representative Starnes. Is there someone from General Administration here that can speak to that? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I'm not sure. Is there someone here from the general administration office? Again, again, I said. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yeah, Drew Moretz, UNC General Administration. We have been working very closely with the community college. We are close to the next agreement and I will say that we do not see this to be a pressing issue. We are working, as far as the non-credit transfers, we're working very hard to make sure that any concerns being addressed, that this bill would be tackling is going to be addressed in this new articulation agreement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Glazier? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Could I follow up really quickly? Just a quick follow up. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes. [SPEAKER CHANGES] So, are you saying sir that you support the bill or oppose the bill? [SPEAKER CHANGES] We have no position on this bill at this point. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you sir. I missed that. [SPEAKER CHANGES] You are welcome. Representative Glazier. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair. Just a comment and then a question. My comment goes back to Representative Starnes' comment about who teaches in the university versus the community college and having, now teaching the university, having taught seven years at the community college, at least at Fayetteville State, and I think at the vast majority of our institutions, all courses, or almost all courses are taught by faculty members in part because there are very few graduate programs at most of the non-research universities. And so there's not that many graduate students to do it, and so I think that a vast number of courses are being taught at the university level by faculty. With that having been said, and I agree on the need for articulation agreements, I'm actually more interested in the last sentence of the bill, which deals with the requirement that they develop an articulation agreement advising tool. So my question is how far along is that, and is that sort of going to be part and parcel to the new articulation agreement so that there is quick transfer of some information to students and to faculty. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I think maybe Sharon Morse. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Sharon Morse, North Carolina Community College system. There is already

The skeleton of an advising tool in existence through the CFNC website. It’s called Transfer Navigator. So over the next year we’re going to be strengthening the advising tool to make it easier for students to map out their second 30 hours. The first 30 hours is guaranteed course equivalency, but the students will still need to map out the second 30 hours and they will do that by looking at which courses will transfer to which specific universities. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Follow up. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Ms. Morrisey. My question is back. Is there anything that the legislature needs to do or can do to assist, or is that being done through the working relationship between the two entities? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I’m sorry, she didn’t hear you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I’m so sorry, Representative ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I’m sorry my question was is there anything the legislature needs to do to assist that process or will this sentence take care of it, and the rest is going to be done by the community college and the universities within existing resources? [SPEAKER CHANGES] We have resources through the College Access Challenge grant to do this work, so hopefully we will have existing resources to use. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Last follow up, Madam Chair? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Um, Ms. Morrissey, and if the College Access grant were taken away, would that be a problem? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes it would. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Jeter. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Madam Chairman. Representative Starnes, as I’ve said before I’m educated by the South Carolina public school system so sometimes I get confused. Correct me if I’m wrong here. We’ve got a bill that passed in 2000, 18 years ago that said they had to do it. In that time there’s only one course that has been accomplished, so I would respectfully disagree that there’s not a pressing need here if we can’t get it done in two decades. All your bill does is say the bill that we passed 18 years ago we need to actually do. Am I missing something? [SPEAKER CHANGES] You are exactly right, Representative Jeter. This bill says that we will enforce the articulation agreements. And that they will report on November, by November the 1st to the Joint Legislation Education Oversight Committee as to the progress that’s being made toward this. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I have a motion when it’s appropriate. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. Representative Cleveland. Representative Bumgardner. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Aren’t we in, thank you Madam. Representative Starnes, aren’t we in fact saying that if classes are not transferring from community colleges to the universities that the community colleges are not good enough? That they’re somehow substandard. I’ve heard a couple people mention that their standards weren’t high enough and if that’s the case, isn’t that a separate issue that maybe we need to, we have some remediation work to do at the community college level but certainly if 18 years have gone by and we haven’t, we haven’t made progress other than one class that we need to do something to help the situation along? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Bumgardner I am convinced as well as many of you are that the educational standards in our community college system is as high as anywhere in the nation. And we can be very proud of the work that our community college does. And this work needs to be recognized by the university system. Sadly it has not been recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I apologize, Representative Wilkins. I marked through your name and you didn’t get to say anything. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Not yet, Madam Chair. But we’re getting ready to fix that. If I may, I’m going to agree with something that Representative Michaux said, and with great trepidation I’m going to disagree with one thing he said. I’m pleased that the systems are working on this. And obviously there had to have been a need for that work or else it would not be in progress now. But my main point, and Representative Michaux I hope you’ll buy into this. On line 20 of the bill the thing that I really like about the bill is that it calls for joint reviews after this work has been completed. And if for no other reason in the world this bill is needed for line 20. Thanks. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative

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Many are paying for these courses for is so let you all will consider this deal: the lighting is offered we choose to take all we've been trying to do in this occasion to it so they'll be in some enforcement post of this process which is in the business for students and by Friday I think it's investing to U.S. interests of our budget considerations taken to Ventura-N (SPEAKER CHANGES) at this time representative for the support SB 69, chairman of the commotion favorable to PCs unfavorable to the region is written nice NICASAM LS MS SMS two and a new regulations represented store think you run chairman of the committee room, XPLDS hospital final one of its common to restoring percent of oracle for a stadium and chairman of the committee this particular bills them on the surface and led by a representative from a ransom this crisis with this presents Saul make a formal introduction of the bill of bill sponsors and rented an adventure is certainly represents a grandson and mind share apologized of members of the committee Friday four allow me to preserve this bill Strauss bill, (SPEAKER CHANGES) one on this bill on 2011 o'clock am telling that to the core cent sales tax to pursue to about one and over dedicated our county commissioners to allow our community college projects and a national park and technical community college and the text search by commitments and counties all we think of the detectives were the best of all the best community college in North Carolina, but no offense to the other 57 community colleges or spread the word very proud of our community colleges grown rapidly over the years is a critical part of our economic development efforts the purpose of this bill is to allow the county more efficiently and effectively utilize approx when $130,000,000 over the next 17 years to construct facilities or maybe 10 campers to a remote their workforce development strategies and efforts and nobody will consult with the baby kept two of them are preparing the programming for these buildings on this bill has been 5% for the host a community college system ready to act in the county of all those home parties are in agreement that this bill is the appropriate alone neither is trying to protect our situation with staff rates by the county home and not enough that some represents a new college system order of the questions I do so much an NT and represents a pristine ms and Britain to remain ISO had a representative Mickey one I just when asked about the bridge and fishes. A bit more generally issued cosponsor the bill are known our best represent a fissure she would like to become a sponsor the bill , she declined to comment on a battle against the calls and I can speak to represent the fisher recalls unthinkable cost you to oppose the bill but the home of the mighty proud that we were sponsors of too many bills together by calls some of the U.S. Atty. (SPEAKER CHANGES) and general cinema perhaps part of a bit in all seriousness, she would make sure everyone was an agreement and was out of state in earlier version of a beat a chain, has won only slightly college are broken roles in the county are in agreement that we need this bill, Marty opposition from our county commissioners or a detectors to use on to this whole deal and percent effectiveness test every four referral to finance all have another shot back that they are representing broth but a question for the bill's sponsors on how the State Department Administration feel about the Taliban Board as well , I had not presented this whole bill to the department administration so I can ??.....

Speak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative Shepard Speak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative Shepard Speak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative Shepard Speak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative Shepard Speak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative SheSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative ShepardSpeak for them ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since im on finance two before it gets to finance can you let us know how the department of administration feels in finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you madam chair just wondering how Madison county feels about this since they didn't participate in ?? I imagine it might be a free ride for them, but just wanna see how they feel [SPEAKER CHANGES] We always wanna help out our good friends in Madison county and Madison does have a site in Madison county for ab tech the main there are two campus located in ?? county ab tech ?? campus and their main campus they're not having to pay this additional quarter cent and anyone who enrolls in ab tech would get the advantage of these programs so I would suspect our entire region will appreciate these programs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Alright Representative ?? we are ready for your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report for house bill 501 with referal to finance [SPEAKER CHANGES] You've heard the motion those in favor aye those appose or no your bill passes thank you [SPEAKER CHANGES] 523 is our next bill and we have some people in the audience who i think want to speak on that also representative brown [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair good morning to the members of the committee house bill 523 is a local bill a little background on the bill itself back in 1986 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes im sorry representative ?? moves for to have the pcs before us for house bill 523 [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you madam chair in 1986 there was two separate boards of education in ?? county we had a city board as well as a county board at that time they decided to combine and become one county wide board at that time there was 12 members on the board of education and the propose agreement was they would self reduce themselves to 7 members that unfortunately never happened and today we still reside with the larger school board in the state of north carolina in fact its the largest school board in our neighboring states 12 members serving 6 year terms the other portion this bill addresses is a very lengthy ?? doc session that board members take currently the election takes place in May and they do not take office until that following year very lengthy ?? in the doc session for those board members. A session ago senator Louis Pate proposed a similar bill that did pass that would reduce the board from 12 members to 7 members and reduce the term from 6 to 4 years its because we are underneath the voting rights act we did have to meet pre-clearance from the department of justice the 6 to 4 year terms did meet pre-clearance however reducing from 12 to 7 did not this bill will take it again from reducing from 12 members down to 9 members and will coincide with the current county commissioners one member being elected from 6 districts with 3 super districts essentially in the department of justice ruling that was the most favorable make up of the board if we looked to reduce the board makeup the most important aspect of this legislation ladies and gentlemen is the fact that we don't enact this legislation within this body, but we send it to a referendum for the public at large to decide this on. In terms of the referendum it self there are 2 pieces that they will be voting on in November the first piece is reducing the board size from 12 members to 9 members and the second piece that they will be voting on is reducing the terms from six to four years and also taking office 30 days after being elected with that I will take questions you do have a handout in front of you that shows survey results countywide as well as letters of support we did hold round table meetings on this we held public forum on this to elicit feedback thank you madam chair [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes representative Shepard [SPEAKER CHANGES] yes for question madam chair representative Brian just out of curiosity what is the salary of the board members. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I would differ to two of the board members that are here I believe it is very minimal for the work that they do.

If you will give your name and who you’re with and, if you don’t mind, answering the question [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes ma’am. Thank you ma’am and chairman and members of the education committee. My name is Mayor Blunt Williams and I’m from Greenville. I’m a current member of the Pea county board of education. Our monthly salary is 200 dollars a month, with taxes it’s 184. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Is that sufficient? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Shepard, I appreciate your question. to be clear, they certainly do a lot of work for the salary they have. But I guess, in staying with this conversation, it is not a fiscal issue we’re talking about. When I was elected it wasn’t tax reform, or the economy, or jobs that constituents we’re coming to me about. It was the size, the effectiveness, and the efficiency of the Pig County board of education. What they view as a very decisive and challenging board that is challenging our students. So that is what this legislation has brought forth. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Jeter [SPEAKER CHANGES] Ma’am [SPEAKER CHANGES] I’m sorry. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I’m sorry. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes. He just needed you to answer the question. We’ll call on you as soon as the questions are through. We’ll let you speak. Representative Jeter – [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, madam chairman. Question for the bill sponsor, Representative Brown, if I understand this correctly; in essence, you’re separating this into two major parts. The second part would be the reduction of the terms from six years to four years, which has already received pre-clearance warrants. [SPEAKER CHANGES] That is correct. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The first would be a reduction from twelve to nine. Senator Pate’s bill, in the last session, didn’t get pre-clearance because, according to your explanation, it went to seven, and the ruling was they felt like nine was more consistent. Is that correct? [SPEAKER CHANGES] In terms of looking at The Voter Rights Act, they felt that seven would incorrectly reduce minority representation and that coinciding more along the lines of the county commissioners would be most favorable make up. Again, the county commissions have already actually met. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Follow up, ma ‘dam chair. [SPEAKER CHANGES] How many students are in your district? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Roughly 23,000. [SPEKAER CHANGES] Statement, ma ’dam chair? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I’m sorry. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Can I make a quick statement? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes, certainly. [SPEAKER CHANGES] You said 23,000 students. I’m from Becklinberg, we have nine members and I think we have 135,000 students serving four year terms. I would strongly encourage this education committee to approve this if nine people in Becklinberg can manage 130,000. I also believe there’s nine in Wake and they have 140,000 students on four year terms, currently. I think this is probably the right way to go, and I strongly commend the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Pishalli, did I get it right? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes, thank you. I’m just curious, if I heard the board member correctly, she said she was a four-year member. If they’re going from six to four, then how come she is already a four-year member? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I think she was more, I can’t speak for her, I would assume she was saying she’s been on the board for four years. Is that correct? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Ross. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, ma ‘dam chair. My question was answered. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Adams. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, ma’dam chair. A couple questions for the bill sponsor, you say you did a poll, do you have any sense of those numbers, who you polled in sense of racial make-up, etc? [SPEAKER CHANGES] You can see, in your packet, and then there’s another supplemental item that we did that you can find on, I believe, the third page of your packet, if I’m correct. It was a public forum that was held at J.H. Rows’ High School in Pea County. The make-up of that forum was majority African American. If you look at those numbers of those people who answered the question, nineteen of those people that were present at that public hearing wanted to reduce the board’s size, wanted to just simply reduce the board’s size; very simple question. We didn’t get into the weeds of what it would be reduced to, we just simply asked, “would you like to see the board reduced.” Nineteen of those individuals said they would like to see it reduced. Of those nineteen members, two were school board lawyers.

People of the group said that they would not like to see it reduced and of those nine members, five of them were school board members. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Follow up ??. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes. [SPEAKER CHANGES] So you are proposing to have a referendum? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes, ma’am. [SPEAKER CHANGES] And follow up ??. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Follow up. [SPEAKER CHANGES] And they would take office thirty days after? [SPEAKER CHANGES] That is correct and we would be moving elections from the primary election in May to a general election in November. [SPEAKER CHANGES] And follow up. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Just one more question. Do we have any indication of what the school board thinks about this? I mean, I saw the letters from people who support it. Of course you would have those. Did you get a letter? I understand that the school board voted. They voted three times and they voted it down. Do you have that information? [SPEAKER CHANGES] It’s a divided school board. That’s clear. You have individuals who actually campaign on the reduction of school board. You have members who are vehemently opposed to reduction of the school board. A couple of those members are here today. I equate this. I own a company. Could you imagine me going to my managers in my company and saying, “You must self-reduce”? It’s never going to happen. There’s not a board that’s going to self-reduce themselves. That’s why it didn’t happen back in 1987 when they rolled into twelve members and it was supposed to reduce to seven. Those items don’t happen. What we want to do is we want to send this to the public at large to decide. The people who are actually paying the tax dollars to send their children to Pitt County schools. Let them decide. I think that the most gleaming information that you can find is on the very first page of the information that I set out and if you look at the makeup of those who responded, the highest makeup was educators and education administrators. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Okay. Let me go through this list I have. I have Representative Tolson, Brandon Turner, Elmore, and Lubke and then I’m going to take the two speakers from Pitt County. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Okay. I just wanted to order a motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I would love one, but I will take these others in at the appropriate time. I’ll get back to you. Representative Brandon. Thank you, Mrs. Chair. I wanted to ask the bill sponsor or maybe somebody from ??. If you have a referendum, I don’t understand what the problem would be if there’s a reference to people get to choose whether they like it or not. He has a poll. It could be scientific, it could not be scientific, but the most absolute thing is the people actually going to vote for it or not so my question to you is that if you have a problem with it, what… Sometimes we get a problem these things and there is no referendum and I have a huge problem with that. But you have a referendum and the people can choose so I don’t understand the problem could be. If you could clarify what you are talking about. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Is that a statement? [SPEAKER CHANGES] No, I just want to know, if there are people here, if you have a referendum, what could possibly be the problem. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yeah, we will address that when you speak. If you would, please. And Representative Turner. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam Chairman, a question was answered. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] And Representative Elmore. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Brandon addressed my vain of questioning. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. Representative Luebke. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Madam Chair. I’m a little disappointed that this bill is not being discussed in its proper historical context. I’d be willing to bet dollars or donuts that this is a result, that the original board was put together as a result of a lawsuit. That there were many, many lawsuits in our state during the 1980s about composition of school boards and whether African Americans had equal opportunity and had candidates of their choice. And that had to be the origins of this and so I’m struck by the fact that a single African American speak in favor of this and it sounds pretty nasty. It’s inferable that there’s nasty racial politics going on in your county and I’d like to hear about that. I’d like to hear, in particular, from African Americans in your community and find out whether they support this or not because otherwise, it sounds like certain people are imposing a new plan and it doesn’t sound a whole lot different from the Wade County situation or where it’s been imposed by Senator Hunt or the Gilford County situation where Senator Wade is about to do something. So tell me why this is not just an imposition and tell me that in fact, you have African Americans… [SPEAKER CHANGES] Point of order, Madam Chair. [SPEAKER CHANGES] That’s my question. What African Americans do you have? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Point of order, Madam Chair. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I don’t know where you are.

Around representative Brown's integrity and not anything to do with the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] No sir, representative Johnson knows it's just a question about the [??]. [SPEAKER CHANGES] It's just a question and let's give representative Brown an opportunity if he wishes or if not we will hear from the two school board members. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I'll certainly address that question and it does to me seem a little bit of a personal attack, I will address that issue representative Leubke. And I think that it's disrespectful to assume that this is a racially divided issue and I think that that's what it creates and that's unfortunate. It's unfortunate that our children pay that price and I think that that's just sad. In looking at this, this is not something brought forth as to create a racial divide or what you inferred is a racial agenda, and I think that's shameful. What this is representative Leubke, this is a bill to create better efficiency and a more effective board of education in our community. This is a bill that was brought forth by many groups throughout the county. Again if you look at the third page of the handout that I gave you the majority of those members who signed in on that sheet and wanted a reduction in school board were of African American descent. Those are facts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Okay. I would like now for the two school board members to address, if you would like to speak just give your name and whom you're affiliated with and you can have two minutes or close to that. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Good morning again. Madame Chair and members of the education committee, once again I say my name is Mary Blout [??] Williams and I am from Polk county schools. I disagree with representative Brown as to how it has come about. In 2010 we as a board, a 12 member board voted three different times that we did not want to reduce the size of our board. Upon our disagreement, upon the consensus of our board members we had certain board members from Mr. Brown's district and Senator Pate's district. There was no referendum held, no board members were spoken to about the meetings that Mr. Brown has or senator Pate had at the time. So it did seem like there was a hidden agenda there because the majority of the board was not asked. So once we 12 decided that we didn't ant reduction in our board, that's when Senator Pate wrote senate bill 260. Now the department of justice did a survey, came in, did an investigation and they decided that because if you reduce our board to nine you would eliminate three minority seats on the board and there's only three minorities on our entire board. If you go with the plan of the county commissioners and you reduce us to nine and put us in super district you can give us land but you won't give us any votes. So therefore if we go to the problem with the referendum is that you will give us land but you will give us no votes, so there won't be a guarantee, not with any election on a non-partisan board that you'll have minorities on the board, but you won't have any, any at all. And that's where the conflict comes in. When Mr. Brown came to our school board meeting on March 4th he basically told us what we were going to do whether we liked it or not. And those were his words specifically. When he held the public forum at JH Rose [??] high school, there were up there, the survey that Mr. Brown did, he only did in his district, he didn't do it county wide. There are over 100,000 people in Polk county, we represent more than 24,000 students, 36 schools in our district, but he only took call, took 40 people from his district. When he had his initial meeting with the people in the area concerning this matter he only went to his district, he didn't ask anybody else in the other six districts, in the other five districts what they thought. So there is a conflict here. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Is your...

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parent, by the way and all of that, and many other parents have done the same thing so we need to have a strong school board, a good representation countywide so we would say please, please remember, reducing this is going to destroy our minority-majority participation on that board. We cannot guarantee it any other way. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. Representative Brown, would you like to … [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Madam Chair. The thing that I would really bring to the committee’s attention, once again, is A, this does go to the vote of the people, which is the most important aspect, but there is no empirical data that shows, currently, no empirical data that shows that reducing 12 to 9 is going to drastically prohibit minority representation on this board. The other important thing to keep in mind is still, this provision of reducing from 12 to 9 still must meet the Department of Justice preclearance. So if in fact, this does reduce minority representation on this board to a hindrance level, it won’t be precleared by the Department of Justice. There’s still many hurdles that this legislation has to go through. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Committee, again, I bring your attention to the time and we still have one more bill to come before us. I did say that we would take a vote after that and that we would take Tolson's motion. Since that time, I’ve had Shepard, Malone, Collins, and Pittman, who want to make comments. If these are necessary we will spend a little bit more time. Shepard has concede his. How about Malone? And Collins? Pittman? Adams? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes ma’am, if I could. I wanted to know, in terms of the vote that was taken by the board, was that a unanimous decision, what was the vote? Do you know, Representative Brown? [SPEAKER CHANGES] It was not a unanimous decision. [SPEAKER CHANGES] But it was a majority. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes, ma’am. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mary Blackwell, can you answer that? She answered 9 - 2. [SPEAKER CHANGES] 9 - 2. I just want to make a comment. It seems to me, first of all, I don’t think we need to get upset as much as we do when the issue of race occurs down here. I hear it a lot on the floor, I hear it a lot in committee. It is of concern. It does appear to me that there will be some diminishment of minority participation. I mean, you’d have to. Most of, and I assume these two ladies represent districts, so that is primarily why district systems were created, to sort of guarantee, we’ve done that in Greensboro, to guarantee participation from districts that basically have minority population. I do think we need to be concerned about that and not be so much offended at when race comes up in these discussion because it has to and I do think that the minority participation will be diluted and we have to be concerned about that. You did have a majority vote, if you had 9 - 2, that means you only had 2 people who were in favor of this change, I’m not going to support the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Representative Adams, but you’ve spurred two more people. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Collins. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Question for the bills sponsor. Are we changing the districts? Changing the geographical areas that the districts cover with this bill? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes, they will coincide with the county commissioners. Yes sir. That has met Department of Justice preclearance. [SPEAKER CHANGES] And we’re still going to have one, as I understand it, there’s going to be one representative from each district as well as three at large. [SPEAKER CHANGES] That is correct. Well, not at large. They’re super districts, so… [SPEAKER CHANGES] So the county is split in three parts as well as split it six parts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Martin would like to speak on the bill, she’s the primary sponsor. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. I just want to commend Representative Brown on all of his work on this. When we first came up here together as a team, and I also represent Pitt County, clearly, Representative Brown has taken the lead on this being part of that community and seeing the issues last year when they tried to go through this change. He has spent a lot of time with our delegation giving a lot more in depth background information and some of the question, Representative Luebke, that you brought up, and I do think we definitely do not want it to be a race issue, that is not what is driving this. The driving of it is the efficiency of the board.

[SPEAKER CHANGES]: Ward for the children that if they can operate more effectively and efficiently as a small unit then that will benefit students in the ?? County that is the objective, and not to have things in the paper all the time without the controversies of the board that is why the chamber has supported this because they want the board to function efficiently, and I think if we go forward with a following department of justice clearances that these issues can hopefully be addressed, and if there is a change that needs to be made to ensure that we continue to have appropriate representation. I think those addressants would come out when we go to the clearance. So, I would commend this bill to you, and I thank the Representative Brown for his hard work and also just say that, it's like if we are going to vote ourselves out of office that is very difficult for those board members, and we appreciate all of the work that they are doing on the board for our students and this is why the public needs to have the opportunity to make that commend because they are not going to put themselves out of their jobs. Everyone do his best for our students. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Representative Collins did you want to make a motion ?? as ?? to you. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: I would like to move that we give favorable reports for the proposed ?? substitute for health bill 523 ?? to the original. ?? for hasn't known. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: ?? knows. Motion is before you Jackson. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Adams. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: No. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Arp. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Bell. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: No. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Brandon. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Brown. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Bryan. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Bumgardner. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Carney, Cleveland. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Collins. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Cotham, Daughtry. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Dixon. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Dobson. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Dockham, Elmore. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Fischer, Gill. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Glazier. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: No. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Charles Graham. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: No. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: George Graham. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: No. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Hall, Hardister. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Yvonne. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: ?? Jeter. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Jones, Jordon. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Lambeth. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Lucas, Luebke. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: No. [SPEAKER CHANGES] :Malone. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Martin. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Macmanus. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Michaux. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: No. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Pittman. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Presnell. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Ridell. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Ross. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: No. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Saine. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Shepard. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Okay, Speciale. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Stam, Tine. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Tolson. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: No. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Torbett, Turner. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Warren. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Whitmire, Wilkins. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: We have 27 Ayes and 12 nos, and the bill passes. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Thank you madam. ?? committee. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Representative Martin if you will stay there we now have house bill 896. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: 839 you mean. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: I am sorry [SPEAKER CHANGES]: There is a proposed committee substitute. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: And it is a proposed committee substitute, do you have a motion? A motion from Representative ??.

okay i have a treat for you this should not be difficult. We will have an anonymous vote here. I do want to point out the differences between the original bill to the proposed committee substitute. Before i get into that there is a section "where as is" background which i find particularly helpful. On these discussions and why are we doing this and i would like to ask Representative horn to explain a little bit of the background to super intendeds work group, and the feedback from are super intendeds cause this to come into action. Representative Horne thank you madam chair, ladies and gentlemen as all of you have heard time to time there has been a work group of super intendeds around the state coming together to kind of give us chairman. Yes I'm sorry Mr. Collins, I would like to make a motion for a favor report on the propose committee substitute house bill 839, in favor to the original. There is. They will be quick and i will take the motion from Collins if there is no further questions. Anyway the recommendations in here have been resulted from the super intendeds across the state. Here is some of the work of the different reports i have reviewed. Than after the reason we have a committee substitute is because we have been working through dpi, on their concerns on of what were asking to be reviewed and asking to get back the feedback to the superintendent admit the school administrative group, or we could come together. So these are the exact changes. If anyone oppose to the bill. I don't think there is opposition to the bill. I'm afraid he was addressing the chair do we have any opposition against the bill? If not i will take representative colleens motion. Once again i would like to give a favor report to the house committee substitute four house fella 39 in favor for the original you heard the motion all of those in favor all oppose. The I's have it Thank you the meeting is adjourned.