The House will come to order. Members, please take your seats. Visitors, please retire from the chamber. Members and visitors, please silence all cellular phones and personal electronic devices. The prayer will be offered by Representative Steinburg. Members and visitors in the gallery, please stand and please remain standing for the Pledge of Allegiance. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and it’s interesting that I was here to deliver the prayer on the opening day of session, and here I am again on the closing day of session, so this is quite an honor indeed. Members of the House and folks in the gallery, let’s bow our heads in prayer, if we would. God of indefinite love and wisdom and power before whom we shall one day appear to give an account of the deeds done in our lifetime, mercifully forgive our sins and grant unto us the peace that passes all human understanding. As thou dose know not only collectively but individually our motives, desires and weaknesses, we await the illumination of our minds and the purification of our hearts. Then shall we go to our tasks rejoicing that we are laborers together with thee. Too often we live in a little world, circumscribed by material things and selfish interests. Wilt thou give us greater perspective, a vision of a world in which all life and service is unto God and not unto man? When this day comes to a close – in fact, when this session comes to a close, may we be able to say “Father, I finished the work thou gavest me to do.” For thy namesake, amen. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the united States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore is recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, the journal for Friday August 1st 2014 has been examined and found to be correct. I move its approval as written. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore moves that the journal for August 1st be approved as written. All in favor say aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] All opposed, no. The ayes have it. The journal’s approved as written. Petitions, memorials or papers addressed to the General Assembly or the House? Ratification of bills and resolutions. The Clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The Enrolling Clerk reports the following bills duly ratified for presentation to the Governor: Senate Bill 853, An Act to Modernize the Business Court; House Bill 272, An Act to Make Various changes to Laws Affecting the Department of Transportation and the Division of Motor Vehicles; House Bill 366, An Act to Maintain the Confidentiality of Environmental Investigations for Agricultural Operations and Direct the Department of Environment and Natural Resources; House Bill 1133, An Act to Make Technical Corrections to the General Statutes and the Session Laws, as Recommended by the General Statutes Commission. Following bill to be ratified ?? presented to the office of Secretary of State: House Bill 1054, An Act to Authorize the Town of Spindale and the Cape Fear Public Utility Authority to Attach Personal Property, Garnish Wages and Place Liens. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Chaptered bills will be noted. Ladies and gentlemen, the Chair is happy to extend a courtesies of the gallery and a courtesies of the floor to two spouses of members: Tammie Ross, spouse of Steve Ross, and Susan Tillis, my wife. Welcome. Ladies and gentlemen, just one note: The opening ceremony of North Carolina’s centennial commemoration of World War I will begin this morning
10:20 inside the capital. All members of the General Assembly are invited to take part of the wreath laying to honor those who served this first global war. Governor McCory will be in attendance as well. We will do our best to try and make that meeting, but we will have to continue the House’s business if necessary. Senate Bill 744. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To the President of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives, conferees appointed to resolve the difference between the Senate and the House of Representatives on Senate Bill 744. The bill to be entitled An Act to Make Base Budget Appropriations for Current Operations of State Departments, Institutions, and Agencies, and for Other Purposes. The conferees recommend that the Senate and House of Representatives adopt this report. Conferees for the Senate: Senate Brown, chair, Senator Apodaca, Berger, Brock, Harrington, Hise, Hunt, Jackson, Meredith, Pate, Rabin, Randleman, Rucho, Soucek, Tillman. For the House, Representative Dollar, chair, Representative Johnson, co-chair. Representative Holloway, Burr, Horn, McGrady, Avila, Hollo, Lambeth, West, Murry, Daughtry, Boles, Faircloth, Hurley, Cleveland, Shepard, Lewis, Moore, Hager, and Tillis. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Ladies and gentlemen, it’s the intent of the chair to take the vote, the third reading vote on the Appropriations bill at 9:50, therefore we will let all members talk and be mindful of the limit of the debate on third reading. In the event that we have to move the previous question, that would mean that the vote would be taken around 9:52. Representative Dollar, please state your purpose. . [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the motion. The gentleman is first recognized to put forth the motion and then to debate it. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The motion is the adoption of the conference report for Senate Bill 744 on its third reading. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Members of the House, let me begin, let me just cover a few different things this morning. First and foremost, I do want to once again extend my personal thanks and the thanks of this chamber to all of conferees to the full chairs of the Appropriations Committee, to the chairs of all of the Appropriations Committees in all the various areas who did a tremendous amount of work this entire year and actually this entire two years, on the budget. I want to also extend thanks, I know most of the staff is not here this morning. We released them so they wouldn’t have to be here this morning, but our senior staff is certainly here in the back and I would like for them to stand up and get a round of applause at this time. And as was done yesterday, we have a tremendous number of...well, we have some tremendous people who worked both for the Speaker and for the majority in a variety of subject areas dealing with the budget in other areas and they did just an outstanding job in this process as well. I want to thank them. I want to clean up a couple of things from yesterday. One, there was the question with regard to the hospital in Pungo. I went back and consulted with a number of folks, and just to clarify, the facility there is currently a 24 hour clinic. It’s not an emergency room, but it’s a 24 hour clinic. It is my understanding in consultation with Representative Brown that land has been acquired and funds are already committed to doing a facility that I believe would accommodate emergency care in that area so that’s something if you’re interested in, please look into that. I do want to bridge off that and just simply stay, for all of you who are concerned with your community hospitals, with any of the issues involving health care as it relates to Medicaid and what this state is involved with, there is going to be before...
for this body in November what I think will be an historic landmark debate and decision with regard to Medicaid reform, and I would encourage all of you to look very carefully at the House version of House Bill 1181. Get up to speed on that. If you were concerned about your community hospitals in particular, among other issues, the House version of 1181 is the version that you want to be up to speed on and be supportive of, certainly in my view, when we come back in November. So in addition to the elections, you’ve got some homework assignments while we’re out. I also want to come back and talk about the budget, and I particularly want to extend my thanks to all 68 members who voted for the budget. These are revisions to the two-year budget, and I just remember back to my days under Governor Martin. Governor Martin had a couple very simple things that I have tried to apply in the budgeting process, at least for myself because when he came into office, he said “I want to keep it simple.” He said “I’m for better schools, better roads, and more and better jobs,” and I think that over the two years of this session, of this session of the General Assembly, that we have worked on better schools in our appropriations budgets last year and this year, we have worked on better roads in conjunction with the budget and other bills that have been passed, and we have worked on and seen the results, actually, of more and better jobs for this state, and he always had another saying, Mr. Speaker, and I’ll end with this. He said “The way you get there with limited resources is you have to set priorities, and I commend the majority that voted yesterday, the 68 members of this body that voted for the budget. You have seen and set forward, both last year and this year, a clear vision of how to set priorities in the state of North Carolina. Our priorities is to get our economy straight because that’s the long-term prosperity of this state, the long-term resources for what it is this, the General Assembly, wants to invest money in, and you set priorities in a variety of areas, most notably education, and most notable education in this budget. That was a top priority for this General Assembly, and as we said yesterday, the promises have been kept by this General Assembly in this budget. You have set the right priorities, you have funded those priorities, and you have funded what is most important and most critical to the citizens of this great state and for their future, and I commend you for your actions yesterday and I ask for your vote again on this conference report today. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Larry Hall, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speak on the adoption of the conference report. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker, ladies and gentlemen of the House, and again, we know this has been a difficult and complicated process. We appreciate the vote, bipartisan vote yesterday, to make the statement that this is not the way to optimally do it and that we’re better than this, and we hope that you will continue to vote your conscience today. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Holley, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak on the budget. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady is recognized to debate the motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I want to tell you a little bit. I want to just tell a little story. I want to tell you a little bit about my mother. My mother had five children ages one through five, so we were real close in age, and we weren’t rich people, but she knew how to hold onto a penny until it hollered, and there were some things that she would do. She was a master cook, as you can tell. I got it from somewhere. Somebody fed me something good at some point in my life. And she was this master cook, but the meal that meant the most was the Saturday dinner because that Saturday dinner was made up of all the stuff that she would put in that was leftovers throughout the week that wouldn’t make a good dish. She’d put old okra in it.
She’d put roast beef in it. When you make a good pot of soup or stew or something like that, sometimes you get something and you put it in and it may not be as good, or the combination may not make it taste real good, but it’s edible, and it’s like this budget in a way. Sometimes you can put some stuff in there and it may not be so good but it’s doable, but them sometimes you put something in there that’s just rancid and just won’t work, and it ruins the whole dish. I think the attempts of putting things in the budget like teachers’ pay, I truly believe in your hearts and in all of our hearts we want to do something for teachers, and I think that’s good. It may not be what you want to put in there and do for teachers, but it’s edible, but some of the other things in this bill, some of the cuts to the other parts of our educational system and to our social services, has made this dish rancid and I can’t eat it. We don’t have a good base. We don’t have that stock that makes it all gel together because we didn’t give us the budget and the monies that we needed to make it all just come together because earlier we overspent and we gave money away to people like businesses and the rich that kept us from making that good stock, and I just want to say today as we go on, and I know this budget is going to pass, and I can’t vote for it because I can’t eat that pot of soup, but let’s think about the new term, and when we come back, let’s try to do something to help Medicaid, and let’s try to do something positive to maybe build a good base for that next pot of soup that we have to do. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The Gentleman from Orange County, Representative Meyer is recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to debate the conference report. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I know I spoke yesterday, and I just have one more thing that hung heavy on me last night. We talked a lot about teachers during this session. We didn’t talk a lot about students, and I spent 16 years running a youth mentoring, tutoring after school and summer school program, and probably the one cut in this budget that bothers me the most is the nine million dollar cut to the at-risk student fund because I do believe that those students should be our state’s priority. I know those students, I’ve worked with those students, I’ve helped them and their families, and I worry about what it means to see hundreds, literally hundreds of programs that will provide tutoring, summer learning opportunities, after-school opportunities to help the most needy among our public school children pursue their dreams, the American dream of getting a good education and going on to achieve things that maybe people before them in their family were not able to achieve, and I simply lament the nine million dollars that’s going to come out of opportunities for those students. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Gentleman from Cumberland County, Representative Lucas, is recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak briefly on the conference report. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman’s recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I spoke yesterday and I will not be long today, but as we examine this budget, I just want to again remind you of some of the things that we’re doing to the least of these in our society. We again would recognize that you did the very best that you could with the resources and that resources are limited, but again I will remind you that our resources are limited only by this body’s will to provide revenue. We are the only agency capable of providing those resources for members of our society, and one particular part of this budget continues to bother me, and I hope that it bothers you, and that is for those lower-ranking individuals who work their hearts out for us. Specifically I mention school custodians. This budget provides a 500 dollar increase for them who are already at the lowest end of the spectrum when it comes to finances. They’re loyal workers and they really provide comfort for all of us, and the disparity between school
custodians and state custodians still baffles me. I don’t understand how one who provides a custodial job for the state can get $1000 increase and one who does the same job for the county or the schools gets $500. I don’t understand. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Gentleman from Haywood, Representative Queen is recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. To speak on the conference report. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I rise today, I didn’t speak yesterday, I listened. Several themes came out that I thought were appropriate. One is the truth. We need to get out the truth in this body. Our citizens expect it. One is fairness. Our citizens send us down here to be fair and to take care of their resources, their taxes in a way that helps everybody. Another one was to ratchet down the partisanship. I agree with that. I come down here to help all my citizens. I am for opportunity for every one of them. Every Republican, every Independent, every Democrat. I’m here for educational opportunities for all of them. Every Independent, every Democrat, every Republican. I’m down here for clean air and clean water and vibrant healthy communities for all of them. My agenda is not partisan, I assure you. But what I can tell you is this truly is a historic session. I’ve been in the General Assembly on and off, as you know, since the election of ‘02. I’ve represented the two most Republican counties in this state, Avery and Mitchell county as their Senator. I’ve represented the most unionized per capita county in the state. I’ve represented the least unionized county per capita in the state. I’ve represented farmers, I’ve represented papermakers and industrialists. I’ve represented children, women, Native Americans, African-Americans, all Americans, all North Carolinians. We open our session every day with a prayer, that’s usually the best part of the session. There’s a good one today by the ??, and a Pledge of Allegiance to flag of the United States of America and the republic for which it stands. All my citizens pay their taxes, and they want to get the good out of their taxes. What’s historic about this session is we have squinted at gnat and we have swallowed a camel. We have thrown away, wasted, denied, $3.5 billion of our citizens revenue. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Our federal… [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman will suspend. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes sir. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Point of order. [SPEAKER CHANGES] What does the…. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Point of order. Are we on the budget. He’s talking about all other things and complaints that have nothing to do with the budget. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady’s point is taken. The gentleman will continue. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. We have...we’re here to serve our citizens. Our actions in this historic General Assembly have denied $3.5 billion of their revenue to come back to help them. What we have done, what this General Assembly has done, now, what does that mean? What is $3.5 billion? We talked about protecting BRAC and our military presence in North Carolina. We have approximately $3.5 billion worth...
the military contracts each in North Carolina, just throw it away. It doesn’t matter. That’s what 3.5 billion would mean to Eastern North Carolina. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mister Speaker, the gentleman from Haywood will suspend, having listened carefully to the debate, I cannot make the connection at this time to the subject of the motion. If the gentleman could direct his remarks to the substance of the budget of the conference report it would be appreciated. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Well there’s two things about the conference report. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mister Speaker? [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Nash rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] To see if the gentleman would yield to a question? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I can only really yield at the end of my remarks, just so I can get to a point. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman does not yield. [SPEAKER CHANGES] What does 3.5 billion mean? We all have. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Point of order Mister Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Point of order. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman may state his point of order. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Twice now the gentleman now speaking has refused to accede to the rulings of the Chair. His remedy is to appeal the rulings of the Chair not to continue in his obstinacy. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mister Chair. [SPEAKER CHANGES] This gentleman will suspend. The gentleman’s point from Wake is well taken. The Chair given the day and the time constraints is previously announced, is allowed some leeway, however if the gentleman from Haywood cannot direct his remarks to the substance of the conference report on Senate Bill 744 then the gentleman will not be further recognized in his speech. The gentleman may attempt to continue. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Okay. Let me go to a second point and maybe I can find a way to get back to the first point before I, in staying your sense of this budget, the truth, the truth about education jobs and again this budget, well let me say this, let me put it this way, I’m trying to stay on the floor. Representative Horn when you opened up the education budget said that there were 761 new teachers positions funded in this conference report and that’s true. That’s provision 16 on F3 of the money report and Speaker Tillis said that this budget doesn’t cut single teacher assistance. Well that is item 20 on page F4of the of the money report. When this is an either or proposition, either you cut no teacher’s assistance from the 33 hundred of them or you fund the new 761 teachers, one or the other. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mister Speaker? [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the lady from Cabarrus, Representative Johnson arise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I would like to maybe help the gentleman with his understanding. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentleman yield to a question? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I do. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative would you like for me to explain this to you? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Certainly. [SPEAKER CHANGES] When we created the appropriation act 414 when compared to the budget for 2013-14 it provides 85 million less funding for teaching assistance and 85 million more, initial funding for teachers. But the local schools have the budget flexibility to still spend the 85 million on teacher’s assistance. The authority for budge flexibility
is in North Carolina general statutes, 15C-105.255B as amended. Last year’s budget bill already provided the additional 43362 for fiscal year 2014-15 more than the fiscal year 2013-14 for teachers in grades 2 and 3 to reduce the class size and under budget flexibility for teacher’s assistance. And you’re conceding on your money report. This here budget provides an additional 41,932,566 for fiscal 2014-15 more than fiscal 2013-14 for teachers in grades kindergarten and one. Under the budget flexibility for teacher assistance, they have the authority to do as they wish. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Chair. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman from Haywood has the floor and will continue and, again, be requested to keep the comments to the budget. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I think, if I’ve heard Miss Johnson correctly, we’ve put an additional $85 million in teaching teachers. We’ve taken out about $85 million from teaching assistants. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose the does the gentleman from Mecklenburg rise. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To see if Representative Queen would yield for a question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Would the gentleman from Haywood yield to a question? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I certainly would. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Queen, I’m curious in the process of forming your well thought out comments this morning. How many superintendents have you spoken with about the current education provisions in the budget? [SPEAKER CHANGES] In this budget? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes sir. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Well, I’ve spoken to all of them in the period. This conference report, I’ve not spoken to any of them. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Follow up, Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Follow up. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative, Queen, you’re telling me that you’ve spoken to all 115 superintendents. [SPEAKER CHANGES] No. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, point of order. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Okay. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, just one follow up. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Queen, are you aware. I just want to be clear... [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker. Point of order. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman will stay his point of order. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Since we are interpreting germaineness quite strictly today, what relevance does the number of people that the gentleman, Representative Queen, has spoken to have to do with the budget. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, if I may be clear, it’s to determine whether or not the gentleman is aware of the structure of the budget and whether or not he’s aware we’ve vetted this with this with the superintendents and the superintendents have indicated that they appreciate the fact that we provided the flexibility to use teacher assistant funding to fund teachers, but at the same time have the flexibility to move that funding back to the teacher assistants for that purpose. In other words, I just wanted to be clear, and if it’s not appropriate I will withdraw my question. I just wanted to be clear whether or not the gentleman understands that the superintendents appreciate the fact that we’re providing an allocation that can be used for teacher’s assistants, can be used for teachers and can migrate back to teacher’s assistants. I just wanted to be clear that the gentleman was aware of those provision of the budget… [SPEAKER CHANGES] I withdraw my question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The question is withdrawn and the gentleman from Haywood continues to have the floor. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I am aware of the flexibility that these two provisions provide. Representative Horn tried to clear me on that. I’ve talked to our staff and I get the flexibility. The flexibility is either or. You can keep your 3300 teaching assistants and lose over 1500 teachers. Or you can keep your 1500 teachers and lose your 3300 teaching assistants. I think it’s somewhere between 2700 and 3300 according to the staff I just wanted to...there’s a range because they don’t all make the same. It’s either or. We have not stopped the bloodletting of our educational staff in this budget, in this conference report. We have cut, you can have the mix you want. If your district wants to save half of their teachers and cut a bunch of...
teaching assistants, they can do that. If they want to save their teaching assistants and not take the teachers, they can do that, but it is a cut of staff, one or the other. Now my point on the budget is the budget is to drive our economy. That’s what we do. We want to make jobs. We want to create the opportunities for our citizens, and when you deny, when we have denied the Medicaid expansion, we have lost jobs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker? [SPEAKER CHANGES] For what purpose does the gentleman from Wake arise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] This is now the third time he’s refused to cede to your rulings. His statement should be taken down on the record and ??. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman from Wake’s point is made. The matter will take care of itself here shortly. The gentleman from Haywood will continue. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. There are our research division… [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman’s time has expired. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the adoption of the conference report for Senate Bill 744. All of those in favor of the conference report will vote aye. All those opposed will vote no. The Clerk will open the vote. The Clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 66 having voted in favor of the conference report and 44 in the negative, the conference report is adopted and will be sent to the Governor by special message. The Senate will be so notified. Representative Tim Moore is recognized to send forth a committee report. The Clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Tim Moore for Rules, Calendar and Operations of the House, Senate Bill 884, 2014 President Pro Tempore Appointments, favorable as to House Committee substitute, unfavorable as to Senate Committee substitute. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Calendar. Representative Moore, please state your purpose. And House Committee substitute, calendar; Senate Committee substitute, unfavorable, calendar. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, I move that the bill just read in, Senate Bill 884, be added to today’s calendar for immediate consideration. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Without objection so ordered. Senate Bill 884. The Clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House Committee substitute for Senate Bill 884, a bill to be entitled ‘An Act to Appoint Persons to Various Public Offices Upon Recommendation of President Pro Tempore in the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives, and to Appoint a Member of the Board of Directors for the North Carolina Partnership for Children Incorporated Upon the Recommendation of the Majority and Minority Leaders of the House of Representatives. General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker. Members, this is the appointments bill that comes before the House every year. What we did was we took the Senate’s appointments bill; it came over, we did a PCS and rules this morning, added the Speaker’s appointments to that. The bill will then be returned to the Senate. I would ask the body’s support of the appointments bill. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of the House Committee substitute to Senate Bill 884 on its second reading. All in favor vote aye. All opposed vote no. The Clerk will open the vote. The Clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 105 having voted in the affirmative, 4 in the negative, the House Committee substitute to Senate Bill 884 has passed its second reading and without objection will be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of the House Committee substitute to Senate Bill 884 on its third reading. All in favor say aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] All opposed, no. [SPEAKER CHANGES] No. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The ayes have it. The House Committee substitute to Senate Bill 884 has passed its third reading and will be sent to the Senate. The House will be at ease.
[conversations in the background] [Speaker]: Gotcha. And that’s in the resolution that’s coming up? Okay. [addressing the House] Ladies and gentleman I believe that the only matter we have left is the Adjournment Resolution. It’s going to take just a few more minutes in bill drafting to get that done. So the House be at ease. [House at ease 00:00:52 through 00:02:08] [Speaker]: The House will come to order. Ladies and gentleman I thought we would maybe use our time wisely. Representative Ensco and there may be a few others who would like to be recognized for points and personal privilege. So if the members will return to their seats we will take up these discussions as we use our time. Representative Ensco is recognized for a point, a personal privilege. The House will come to order. [Rep Ensco]: Thank you Mr. Speaker. Members we’re going to be moving over in a few minutes to honor the people who participated in World War I, recognizing their courage and their sacrifice. Many of us probably have family members that have with stories from World War I. The War that was to end all wars. That’s very appropriate. It’s important for us to remember those points of history in our time that bring us to where we are and make us proud to be in a country that’s free. During those times of war, we often memorialize men. But just as in World War II, there were opportunities for women to take on additional roles. There was one woman who came to prominence in World War I who wouldn’t have if her boss had not been called up to serve in the army. That woman was Harriet Morehead Berry. If you drive down I-40 right now, through Orange County you will see a section of that road called the Harriet Morehead Berry Freeway. Harriet Morehead Berry was born in 1877 in Hillsboro. She graduated from the school that is now UNCG. She then joined the State Geological Survey. Her, I’m going to tell you her bosses name was, she worked with Joseph Hyde Pratt, who was a state geologist. They worked on the state geological survey, the good roads movement that was coming about at that time. So when Mr. Pratt joined the army, she became the head of that association. She drafted a Bill to bring before the General Assembly in 1918 to establish a statewide road system. That Bill failed but in response to that she didn’t give up. She traveled across the entire state. She went to 87 counties on these dirt, muddy roads over a period of several years and talked to all of the editorial boards in those counties. Talked to all the county commissioners and got the support to actually get the bill passed. I’ll tell you what year that was.
But her purpose was to connect all the farmers to markets so that they could actually sell their products at markets. That’s how we actually got our statewide road system. The General Assembly passed that, it was all a process that started and was completed during World War I and soon thereafter. We still had that good road system today and I think it’s one of the best things about the state when we talk about economic development in this state, we say that out of state companies ask first, will you have a trained workforce that we will be able to hire, the second question is, do you have good schools that our workers will be able to attend their children? Do I want to bring my management team here? Will their children have good schools to go to? And the third question they ask is, do you have the infrastructure? I think that one of the proud thing about this state is our good roads and I hope that we will make a dedication to complete that in the future, but I also wanted to take the time just to say that Harriet Moorehead Berry made a mark during that time and I’d like to have that recognized. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Speciale, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For a point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized is for a point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Most of you know that Marines are called Devil Dogs, that’s as a result of the Battle of Belleau Wood in World War I. If you don't know the story, I’m going to relay it to you real quick here. At the expense of hurting the feelings of my army comrades here. The French lost the Battle of Belleau Woods so the American army went in and they tried to take it and they lost. So they figured they had to bring the big boys in, so they brought the Marine’s in. Marines too Belleau Woods, we turned it into the real estate folks, which is the army, we said, here, hold this. We left to go on and take some more real estate, but then we found out that they lost it, so we had to come back again and take it again. It’s happened a couple of times before finally the Marines leveled the woods and took it back once and for all, but their marksmanship and their fighting abilities were such that one of the German colonels wrote a letter to his seniors saying that the Marines fought like teufel hunden, which is devil dogs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Martin, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To see if the Marine, Representative Speciale, would yield to a question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does a Marine actually yield? The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Speciale, I appreciate your account of the battle and certainly the United State’s Marine Corp acquitted itself well at that battle, but don’t you think it would have been better if Representative Cleveland could have given us a first hand account of the battle? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Ramsey, oh, Representative Cleveland, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] In response to Representative Martin. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for something. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I have made it a habit that I don’t regale people with my military experiences, I don’t want to embarrass them. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Ramsey, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for a point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] First off, I think I need to duck because I’m in the line of fire between Representative Cleveland and Representative Martin, but I would like to announce yesterday the Board of Governor’s President Tom Ross announce the 7th chancellor for the University of North Carolina at Asheville and she will be Dr. Mary Kaye Grant who currently serves as the President of Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts. She succeeds chancellor Anne Ponder who has served nine years at UNC Asheville, she’s the second longest serving chancellor at UNC Asheville and we thank her for her service. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Larry Hall, please state your purpose. . [SPEAKER CHANGES] Point of order. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for a point of order. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and gentlemen of the House, I know I’ve only been here for about eight years, many of you have been here longer, but Mr. Speaker, it appears that Representative Dollar presided over his own motion on the last vote on the conference report. Don’t know if that is now going to be or is an appropriate use of the rules. I know that normally when I did...
[Rep Hall]: … in committee meeting, etcetera, whoever would chair the meeting would not chair the proceedings over their own motion. So I’d just like to point that out for the record if we need to clarify that in the rules going forward or if we need to correct the record as written. Of course it’s obvious the reason for that is to insure that the debate is regulated so that no one crafts the debate to get unfair support of their motion and shut down those folks who might be in opposition. Again, Mr. Speaker I hope that that would be corrected. If we need to change the rules going forward for those of you who would come back next session. I hope that this is not going to be a trend where you preside over the proceedings when it’s your own motion. [Speaker]: Representative Hall, I will consult with the Clerk and if it’s in the least bit construed that it’s a violation of the rules, we will do a reconsideration of the vote. While the Clerk is researching the issue, we’ll move on to Representative Pittman. Please state your purpose. [Representative Pittman]: Thank you Mr. Speaker. Point of Personal Privilege. [Speaker]: The gentleman is recognized for a Point of Personal Privilege. [Representative Pittman]: As we go over for the ?? and the ?? today, you’re probably aware that the Museum of History is going to be conducting a four-year commemoration of World War I. I just wanted to mention to you that my wife’s grandfather, William France Odom from Wayne County, was an army medic in France during World War I. I expect his uniform to be on display sometime during this four-year celebration. Thank you. [Speaker]: Representative Jeter, please state your purpose. [Representative Jeter]: Point of Personal Privilege. [Speaker]: The gentleman is recognized for a Point of Personal Privilege. [Representative Jeter]: I always kind of considered myself, or at least have recently as the general assembly jester. And we need some levity this morning. I’d like to talk about a man that I met in 2005. 2005 I decided to run for the Huntersville Town Board and I’m sure this is germane to the budget somehow. I love you Joe Sam Queen. And there were four incumbents running for five spots. Six people signed up to run for Huntersville Town Board that year. I was the last of the six for the theoretical open spot. One of those six had just been on the Cornelius Town Board. He had moved to Huntersville and signed up. Of course once he saw my name on the ballot, he did the right thing and withdrew. Of course I’m speaking of Speaker Tillis. I will tell you that this is in theory our last real day of session. I have known Speaker Tillis other than his wife, longer than anyone in this room. In politics as we see today as we’ve seen in the last two years as we will continue to see in the future. We like to get perception versus reality. We like to get into what we think people’s heart is. I am a better person, a better human being, a better legislature, a better father because of the man sitting up there at the dias. I have had a large change in my life because of my relationship with Speaker Tillis and I know that this is your last session. I wanted to publicly thank you for being someone who made me better. And I’m not going to get into the campaign stuff and political stuff. I’ll let other people do that. But as a person I just can’t thank you enough. I wanted to thank you publicly and I also wanted to thank you for coming off the ballot in ‘05. [Speaker]: Representative Bumgardner, please state your purpose. [Representative Bumgardner]: Point of Personal Privilege. [Speaker]: The gentleman is recognized for a Point of Personal Privilege. [Representative Bumgardner]: Thank you Mr. Speaker. Representative Jeter beat me to
I was gonna say, the republicans are in the majority and republicans, all of us over on this side of the room and large part because of the efforts speaker ??, I'd like to say Thank you for all the hard work that was done long ago to get us where we are and it's up to us now to go forward from here and we'll see next year what happens but on another notes, I'd like to also say, my grandfather was muster gased in World War I and he didn't say it was World WarI, he didn't know it was WWI and he lived until I was Thirty years old and miraculously I didn't realize how good I had talking to him and we used to sit and talk about, he said we went over there and fought a war against ?? Bill, that was what they called them. If you ask people on the streets today, the average person about World War I, they have no earthly idea of when it was or what it was. All it was, was the beginning of the great realignment and the wars of the 20th century. World War I and World War II really were one war, they just called a 20 years ?? in the middle. We could talk rest of the week about what happened and why it happened and how this group and that group made this group crawl because they are on the top today, but anyways, setting all that aside, it was fascinating to a hear about a guy that went on a ship from America to France and what they had to do, it was the last war that was fought with mostly horses that pulled machinery. It was a transition period from old to new. They had machine guns, right, but they also had horses to pull the machines guns up to the front and they'd line up and slaughter each other and the reasons they dug trenches were if they had, no body would have been left. How would you like to be out there in the cold mud up to your waist and water with big rats swimming around everywhere and people shooting at you. That sounds like a lot of fun. But anyways, ?? ?? ??. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Hall, after a consultation with the clerk and sections 96 and sections 582 of masons ?? that believes that the gentleman from Wake made the motion not from the chair but from the floor that they simply provided over the vote and advocated for the matter when he was not in the chair. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. speaker, a point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Lady is recognized for a point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Ladies and gentleman of the house, think about 2007. We are now seniors, 9 of us came in, 4 women and 5 men. Speaker Tillis is the last man standing, the women are still here. However, we are going to be losing Speaker Tillis and Representative Samuelson Ruth and we really are going to miss both of you. I call a senior and I'm a senior senior but I've truly enjoyed working with both of you and you are leaders in every way and I wish both of you, wherever your steps lead you, the lord leads you, you may have the most success ever and I thank you for your service to our state. I think the state is better today and also Annie Mobley came in that year and she'll be leaving and I'm gonna miss her too and many more, I've enjoyed working with all of you who are leaving and I wish you the best, Godspeed. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative McElraft, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For a point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady is recognized for a point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Well, we sit together, we are both named pat and we think exactly alike. That was the exactly the words I would have used to say farewell to my friend representative Samuelson. Not farewell forever, just farewell from this chamber. And Speaker Tillis, I'm not gonna say ?? to because he'll be hopefully representing us, the state of North Carolina someplace in DC but I've never seen a leader like Speaker Tillis. I have been in politics since 1999, town council county commissioner and now here in the house for 8 years.
I have never seen a Speaker here who has consulted a caucus and not taking his own opinion, but the opinion of those he represents as speaker. I have never seen a man that’s more ethical and loves his wife like Speaker Tillis does. I want to say he stayed at my beach house and he had to pay, because I don’t let anybody stay free in the summertime, but they left it really clean too. I have to clean that bathroom and I know, but anyway. Thank you, Speaker Tillis, for your service to this body. We will miss you here, though we salute you in your new efforts. And Ruth we’re going to miss you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Floyd, please state your purpose. . [SPEAKER CHANGES] Two things, Mr. Speaker, if I may. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for two things. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, I want to first to thank you for allowing me to be the unofficial rule person. I appreciate that and I remember when I got out of service I was calling from New York back to Rocky Mountain to speak to my girlfriend to let her know that I was coming in from Paris, France and that I was arrive in Rocky Mountain, North Carolina in a reasonable period of time. If you can recall Ma Bell, we had a telephone system that we use. So I was communicating with my fiancee and they had three minutes. I went five minutes and the lady on the other end, she said, we allow a introductory statement. Then we allow a statement in between and we allow a closing. The reason why I cut you off was because you had no end to your request. I learnt that as a individual that it don’t take all day to make a statement. I wanted to say that. And also that you have been a fair person to all of us, including me, when I stood up and say I know I can’t make the rule, but I’ll...I knew that, but you knew I couldn’t do it, and I knew I couldn’t do it, but I got time. And the last thing I want to say, Mr. Speaker, before I take my seat, is the resolution before us now? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Actually, Representative Floyd I find it ironic that you spoke just before I had to tell people that there may be a need for a brief recess before we could do the resolution, but the gentleman’s commitment to time management may position him well to run for Speaker next year. Representative Torbett, please state your purpose. . [SPEAKER CHANGES] For a moment of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for a point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, thank you. I don’t think anybody in this Assembly is here without some love of the past. I think a lot of us study the history of this great state and of this nation. In today’s world, a lot of closings of celebrations of folks retiring of service is usually followed by applause. Some years ago, not that many, it used to be followed by appreciation of one’s efforts and one’s service by a simple hip hip hooray, three times consecutively. If I could get my fellow members to join me, I’d like to offer you one for your service of this great state. Ladies and gentlemen, hip hip… [SPEAKER CHANGES] Hooray. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Hip hip… [SPEAKER CHANGES] Hooray. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Hip hip… [SPEAKER CHANGES] Hooray. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Collins, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] A brief moment of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for a point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I don’t mind getting up and debating and asking questions. Very rarely do I do this, ask for any kind of personal privilege. Back in 2009, five years ago, I was in my office minding my own business, which is a financial services business, and I got a phone call from somebody that I didn’t know named Skip Stam and he wanted to meet me and talk to me about the possibility of running for the House of Representatives, which I never had any ambition whatsoever to hold a political office. I met him at the Remington Grill in Lewisburg and he did what I used to do with clients. He got out his yellow pad and started mapping out exactly...
What the job is all about. What it meant and how often I’d have to be here and if I could still work my regular job. And I think he was absolutely as honest as he could be trying to recruit me to run for this office. I told him I’d think about it. I didn’t think a whole lot more about it. Middle of next week, these three guys show up in dark suits in my office and I’m thinking is this the FCC, is this the IRS, I’ve never seen a group quite like this walk into my office before. It was actually another representative named Tom Tillis along with two fellows from the State GOP headquarters and he had come to close the deal. And although I didn’t give him a “yes” on that particular day, the two gentlemen did eventually of course make their point and cause me to run. The thing I appreciate though about Speaker Tillis more than anything else is that after I got here and began to go to conference meetings, he told me the same thing he told me in recruiting me. He told me to do exactly what I had come here to do and I would not have run without that understanding. He’s always told all of us in our Caucus “Vote your conscious first, vote your constituents second, and vote your Caucus third.” And that’s what I appreciate about Speaker Tillis more than anything else. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Jones, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To ask if Representative Floyd would yield for question [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Floyd, does the gentleman yield. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Reluctantly, Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Floyd, I’d like to preface my question by just expressing my thanks to you for your service as our unofficial rules chair, as one who sometimes tires of the long ongoing debate. I really appreciate your service. I just wanted to ask a question. The fiancé that you were talking with that you talked and went over time with and everything, when you finally got her to marry you, did she have to call for the question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] No she. May I respond to the speaker? [SPEAKER CHANGES] The speaker may respond. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The Lord responds in mysterious ways. She went with someone else. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore is recognized to send forth a committee report, the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative T. Moore for ??? of the House Senate joint resolution 881. Favors House Committee Substitute joint resolution, unfavors the original Senate Committee Substitute Joint Resolution. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House Committee substitute joint resolution counter. Senate Committee Substitute Joint Resolution unfavorable counter. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House Joint Resolution 1276, favors the committee substitute. House Joint unfavorous of the original House Joint Resolution. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Committee House Joint Resolution counter. Original House Joint Resolution unfavorable counter. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The, actually, the chair just for the purposes of trying to determine how we should manage the counter. Representative Hall, does the gentleman anticipate or any members anticipate possible amendments sent forth for either of the joint resolutions? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Not at this time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] And we will see if we can dispose of these briefly. If not, we may need to take a brief recess in deference of the ceremony down the street. Representative Tim Moore, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For a motion, first of all. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to state his motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, I would move that both of those bills, Senate Joint Resolution 881 and House Joint Resolution 1276 be added to today’s calendar for consideration. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Without objection. So ordered. [SPEAKER CHANGES] And then whichever, if the Speaker wants to start with the [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senate Joint Resolution 881, the Clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House Committee Substitute for Senate Joint Resolution 881 to draw a resolution providing for adjournment of the 2013 regular session of the General Assembly to a date certain and limiting the matters that may considered upon reconvening, providing for a subsequent adjournment to a date certain and limiting the matters that may considered upon reconvening and providing for adjournment signadi of the 2013 regular session of the General Assembly. The Senate resolves, the House concurring. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore is recognized to debate the resolution. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Members, the two resolutions I can debate. They’re essentially the same with the exception that if you’ll notice on Section 1 of the Bill, we have the one adjournment that calls for the adjournment to be today August the 2nd the other calls for the adjournment to be on August 6th. The reason for that to be the Senate only has a skeleton session today so they
they have to come back in and actually vote with a recorded vote on Wednesday, actually they’re today, but they’re here at 10 o’clock, but I guess they’re there now. They would have to vote to...either today or they may have to wait and vote about Wednesday to adjourn us. You’ll see the items that can be taken up in the session. We have a session that commences August the 14th. There are nine subject areas that are listed where bills can be considered. Those are spelled out for you in the bill. And then also section three of the bill spells out that we will adjourn when the Senate and House adjourn on the 15th, we will adjourn to reconvene on Monday, November 17th at 6 PM. The next section, section 4, is when the regular session adjourns...excuse me, reconvenes on November 17th, that allows us to come back in and deal with the Medicaid reform provisions and also a joint resolution adjourning the 2013 regular session of the General Assembly. Those, I believe, are the changes . Just making sure that the appointments confirmation language is in there. Be glad to answer any questions. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Grier Martin, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the resolution. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the resolution. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, and I will try to be brief since Representative Speciale’s got a herd of fired up marines ready to go over to the World War I ceremony. I don’t want to get in their way. I do want to make a couple of points. Many of us, when we’ve campaigned or when we’ve talked to our constituents, have recited the phrase that no one’s wallets or body’s or otherwise are safe when the General Assembly is in session. I think many of us have advocated for a citizen legislature. A part time legislature. Many of us have been advocates for small government. My concern is that the breadth of this resolution and the fact that it contemplates coming back to work in a matter of days and then coming back to work again in November goes against all those principals. Regardless of which party is in charge, I think the public is best served if we conduct our business promptly and get out of town and I’ve concern that this resolution just perpetuates us staying here. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Stam, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Would Representative Moore yield for a question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore, does the gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I do. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore, this question applies to each of these resolutions, the one on the board and the alternate. Items 4 through 9, which could be considered in August 14th, are you going to construe that narrowly or broadly as rules chair? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speaking for the speaker, I will construe it narrowly. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Michaux, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To ask a question of Rules chair. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore, does the gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I do. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] It falls along the same lines as Representative Stam just talked about. It looks like what you were doing is putting a limit, a one day limit, on that session coming in on the 14th, is that correct? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Which two days? [SPEAKER CHANGES] We come in on Thursday and leave on Friday? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Well, we would come back if those...we would come back that day, and, of course, we could stay. There’s no limitation, per se, but we’re limited as to what we could do. My understanding from the chair is that the chair does not plan on spending much time here at all. I think we’ll be very short. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Follow up. It’s says when the Senate and House of Representatives adjourn Friday, August 15th. It says when they adjourn. I’m just trying to figure out the parameters in there is what I’m trying to do. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Michaux, will tell you the intent of the chair is to potentially deal with a few matters that are delineated in the adjournment resolution. Any matter that would take more than about two days to complete will most likely be put off to the next session. And by next session I mean the next legislature in 2015. We did allow flexibility to not limit the number of days that we could be here, but the chair would not anticipate that’d be more than about a two day session. Further discussion, further debate. If not, the question before the House is the passage of the House Committee Substitute to Senate Joint Resolution 881 on its second reading. All in favor vote aye.
recorded the vote: 90 having voted in the affirmitive. 17 in the negative. The house committee substitue the senate joint resolution 881 has passed in second rating and without objection. It will be read a third time. Senate resolves. Further discussion further debate. If not, the question before the house is the passage of the house committee substitute to senate joint resolution 881 on its third reading. All in favor say aye. All opposed, no. The house committee substitute 881 has passed its third reading and will be sent to the senate. House joint resolution 1276. [Speaker changes] Committee substitute for the house joint resolution 1276. Fighting for the adjourning of the 2013 regular session. Certain eliminating dividers that may be considered, upon recovening, and providing for subsequent adjourment to a date certain and elimiting matters that may be considered, upon recovening, and providing for ajourment of the 2013 regular session of the general assembly. The house resolves, the senate concurring. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Members, this is essentially the same resolution. The only difference, I belive, is on line 10 of page 1. Has to do with Wednesday August 6th instead of Saturday August 2nd. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate. If not, the question before the house is the passage of the house committee substitute to house joint resolution 1276 on its second reading. All in favor vote aye, all opposed vote no. The pro tempore will open the vote. 93 have voted in the affirmite and 14 in the negative. The house committee substitue to the house joint resolution 1276 has passed its second reading and without objection. It will be read a third time. Further discussion, further debate. If not, the question before the house is the passage of the house committee substitute to house joint resolution 1276. All in favor say aye, all opposed say no. The house committee substitute to house joint resolution 1276 has passed its third reading and will be sent to the senate. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes the business for the calendar today. Thanks to all the members for their hard work, in both caucasses. I know sometimes we have our moments, but I think there are other times when we have great moments and I appreciate your indulgence today and the intrusion on your weekend. Representatitve Wess, will you please come forward to the dias? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I believe that the house will now be ajourned subject to the ramification of bills, receive messages from the senate, receive conference reports, receive committee reports, the re-referal of bills and resolutions, the appointment of conferees, the introductions of bills and resolutions, the appointment of committees to be recovened as follows: in the event the senate concurs today in house PCS and amendments to senate bill 881 then until Thursday August the 14th at 12 noon and in the event the senate does not concur today in the house pCS and amendments to senate bill 881, then until noon on Wednesday, August the 6th. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Tell us that the house ajourns, subject to the ramification of bills, receive messages from the senate, receive conference reports, receive committee reports, the re-referal of bills and resolutions, the appointment of conferees, the introductions of bills and resolutions, and to be reconvened as follows: in the event the senate concurs today in the house PCS and amendments to senate bill 881, then until noon August the 4th
[Speaker]: … In the event the Senate does not concur today in the House PCS an Amendment to Senate Bill 881, then until noon on Wednesday, August the 6th. All in favor of the motion will say, aye. All opposed, no. The ayes have it and the House stands adjourned. [applause]