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House | April 8, 2013 | Chamber | Session

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408: Speaker1: The House will come to order members please take your seats. This is the right place to retire from the chamber. Members and visitors in the gallery observe silence and please switch off your phones and personal electronic devices. Now it’s time to close the doors. The prayer will be offered by Representative Kelly Alexander. Members and visitors in the gallery please stand and please remain standing for the pledge of allegiance. Speaker changes: I would like to preface the prayer this evening by a brief passage from Abraham Lincoln’s first inaugural.” We are not the enemies, we must not be enemies, oppression may have strained it must not break our bond of affection; that every heart beats to, be bowed as I lift up. “This xx war era prayer continues to resonate today. “Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of God. He is tramping out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored. We have to lose the faithful lightning of xx of his sword. Truth is marching on; I have seen Him in the watch-fires of a hundred circling hands , they have built Him an altar in the evening dos and dance. I can read His righteous sense that the dim and flaring lamps, His day is marching on. He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat. He is sifting up the hearts of men before His judgment seat. Oh! Be swift my son, to hold the hands, and be jubilant my feet ,our God is marching on. In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea. The glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me, as He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free, while God is marching on.” Amen.[Pledge: ???] Speaker changes: Representative Moore is recognized Speaker changes Mr. Speaker , the journal for April 4, 2013 was examined and was found to be correct. And the proof was read. Speaker changes: Representative Moore moves the journal for April 4th, to be approved, those who approve say aye, all opposed say no. The ayes have it. The journal of 4th is approved.. Speaker changes: xxx to address the General Assembly of the House. Speaker changes: Ratifications and resolutions of the House? Clerk will read. Speaker changes: xx in bill 123 and act to clarify existing law pertaining to sex offenders residing near schools or day care centers. Speaker changes: Captioned bills to be noted. Speaker changes: Reports of standing committees and permanent sub- committees; Representatives Cleveland, Hastings and xx are recognized . The committee reports. Clerk will read. Speaker changes: Representative Cleveland , Hastings and Pekerman??military and veterans committee House bill 433, land use, land in military installations favored and referred to judiciary subcommittee A. . Speaker changes: House bill 433 will be re-referred to the judiciary sub committee act. Speaker changes: House bill 323 CEO requires military experience favor of xx committee sub xx in favor of bill. Speaker changes: Sub- committee substitute counter and favorable count. Speaker changes: House bill 325, Park fees for military veterans

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Clerk: …the law in sanctioning healthcare professionals for assisting in the execution process, to amend the law in administrative of lethal injection, to require a setting of execution date if any of the events providing that statue have occurred, to eliminate the process by which a definitive use of statistics, to have the sentence of death to life in prison without parole, to require periodic reports with training availability of personnel to carry out a death sentence, and to require a period of reports of status pending on post conviction capital cases. Speaker: Judiciary subcommittee B. Clerk: Judiciary subcommittee B, substitute for senate bill 316, a bill entitled an act to provide a rebuttal assumption exists in certain circumstances a person charged with a felony or class A1 misdemeanor involving the illegal use or discharge of a firearm should not be released prior to trial after amend certain favorable bond conditions. Speaker: Judiciary favorable bond appropriations. Ladies and gentleman, house bill 589 strike referral educations; 589 will be referred to the committee on elections. If we could please have the pages come to the front of the gallery. The pages of the [xx] if you could please step down momentarily, we would like to introduce you. [silence] Pages, as the reading clerk calls out your name, if you could stand forward and wait so we can put a name to a face. The clerk will read. Clerk: Ernesto Alvarez, McClemburgh; Christian Bower, Durham; Holliground, Gaston; Brianna Campbell, Halifax; Brett Ellison, Durham; Alexandra Fisher, Union; Hayland Madison, Union; Shelby Ingram, McClemburgh; Hayley McQue, Franklin; Carley Venters, Hanover. Speaker: Pages, on behalf of all the members, I want to welcome you to the house this week. We appreciate your willingness to come down and serve this great institution. We hope that you learn a little bit this week, and have a good experience. We look forward to all the work you will do for us – and you will be doing some work this week. So members, let’s properly welcome them. [clapping] Speaker: You may know return to your stations. Ladies and gentleman of the house, upon motion of McClemburgh County, especially Representative Caughman, the chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to Representative Caughman’s mother, Pat Caughman, who is also chair of the McClemburgh County Commission. Commission Caughman, please stand and let us welcome you. [clapping] Speaker: Calendar house bill 314, the clerk will read. Clerk: House bill 314, a bill entitled an act extending the terms of office mayor board commissioners of the town [xx] from 2 to 4 years, providing that the notice of candidacy for office shall be filed with the county board of elections. General assembly of NC enacts. Speaker: Representative Martin, please state your purpose. Representative: To debate the bill. Speaker: The lady is recognized to debate the bill. The house will come to order. Representative: Thank you Mr. Speaker. This is a very straightforward bill. It came to me as a resolution from the mayor of Agin and the town commissioners that it was fully supported and through the town community. They have requested that there terms be changed from two years, as they have today, to four years stagger terms. The way that we will accomplish that is with this coming election in 2013, several members will run for 2 years and others will run for 4 years, and

End of two years, everyone will accomplish four-year term. I did have some questions. I asked the League of Municipalities is the standard and there are 345 municipalities on four-year staggered terms and only 164 on two-year terms. It’s definitely the trend for consistency to have that in place. It came through committee unanimously and I would ask you to support me and support my community. [Speaker change]: Representative Brian Brown. Please state your purpose. [Representative Brown]: To debate the Bill. [Speaker change]: Gentleman is recognized to debate the Bill. [Representative Brown]: Thank you Mr. Speaker. I would just like to tell everyone that this is a very straight forward Bill. A very good Bill and there’s no opposition to this Bill in our district. Thank you very much and I ask for your support of the Bill. [Speaker change]: Further discussion. Further debate. If not, the question before the House is the passage of House Bill 314 on it’s second reading. All in favor say, aye. All opposed say no. The ayes have it. House Bill 314 is passed it’s second reading without objection. Will be read a third time. [Clerk]: ?? of North Carolina in ?? [Speaker change]: Further discussion. Further debate. Representative Horn, please state your purpose. If not the question before the House is the passage of House Bill 314 on it’s third reading. All in favor say aye. All opposed say no. The ayes have it House Bill 314 has passed its third reading and will be sent to the Senate. Ladies and gentleman the next two Bills are also voiced votes on both readings. House Bill 354 the Clerk will read. [Clerk]: House Bill 354 is ?? a Bill authorizing two county commissioners to serve on the Board of ??, ?? Community College. General Assembly of North Carolina ?? [Speaker change]: Representative Ramsey please state your purpose. [Representative Ramsey]: To debate the Bill Mr. Speaker. [Speaker change]: Gentleman recognized to debate the Bill. [Representative Ramsey]: Mr. Speaker, Members of The House, I stand to ask you to support this Bill. This is a fairly technical correction unbeknownst to me. I served eight years on the Board of Commissioners ?? County and did not realize under current law, ?? County in Madison County Commissioners cannot appoint a County Commissioner to serve on the AV Tech Board of Trustees at the same time. Due to some recent facts that occurred in our community, that was brought to our attention and the Madison County Commissioners, ?? County Commissioners support this Bill AV Tech supports the Bill and I would ask the Members of this House to support this Bill as well. [Speaker change]: The discussion for the debate. If not, the question before the House is the passage of House Bill 354 on it’s second reading. All in favor say aye. All opposed say no. The ayes have it. House Bill 354 is passed it’s second reading without objection, will be read a third time. [Clerk]: General Assembly of North Carolina in ?? [Speaker change]: For the discussion for the debate. If not the question before the House is the passage of House Bill 354 on it’s third reading. All in favor say aye. All opposed say no. The ayes have it. House Bill 354 is passed it’s third reading will be sent to the Senate. House Bill 555 the clerk will read. [Clerk]: House Bill 555 the Bill to ?? county to use the designed build method of construction. General Assembly of North Carolina in acts. [Speaker change]: Representative Ramsey, please state your purpose. [Representative Ramsey]: Mr. Speaker, to debate the Bill. [Speaker change]: The gentleman is recognized to debate the Bill. [Representative Ramsey]: Mr. Speaker, Members of The House, this Bill was requested by ?? County. It deals with a specific project. At 2154 Hendersonville Road there’s a limited time period to allow the county to go forward. There’s some time sensitivity in this regard. Hopefully there will be a very positive economic development announcement in our county. Our county has requested this authority. I commend the Bill and ask the members of this chamber to support it. [Speaker change]: Further discussion. Further debate. If not the question before the House is the passage of House Bill 555 on it’s second reading. All in favor say aye. All opposed say no. The ayes have it. House Bill 555 is passed it’s second reading and without objection will be read a third time. [Clerk]: General Assembly of North Carolina in Acts. [Speaker change]: Further discussion. Further debate. If not, the question before the House is the passage of House Bill 555 on it’s third reading. All in favor say aye. All opposed say no. The ayes have it. House Bill 555 is passed it’s third reading will be sent to the Senate. House Bill 240 the Clerk will read. [Clerk]: ?? for House Bill 240 a Bill to be titled and enacted to expand the choices for health insurance in North Carolina by exempting health insurance companies from out-dated risk exposure requirements to remove a focal identification requirement for new domestic companies to help mortgage guarantee companies adjust their capital and surplus requirements to revise certain risk-based capital requirements in order to maintain North Carolinas NAIC accreditation, clarify consumer choice and home-owners coverage for wind and hail to clarify the certification requirements so the actuary who presents the schedule of premium rates to shorten certain time periods for external review by the commissioner of certain insurer determination

?? access of coverage to businesses that need blanket accident and health coverage. To make certain conforming changes related to the renaming of the office of managed care patient assistance program as health insurance smart North Carolina. To amend the definition of private passenger motor vehicle. To clarify when an insurer can communicate with the insured after the public adjuster has been retained. and to clarify when an automatic stay of proof of loss requirements, premium and debts referrals, and loss adjustments are triggered. General assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Dockham, is there anything left to explain? The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] No sir, there isn't anything. I apologize mister speaker. I'd like to be recognized for a motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for a motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I'd like for house bill 242 to be taken off tonight's calendar. And re-calendared for Wednesday May 10. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Without objection, [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] So ordered. House bill 242 will be - Representative Moore, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Motion pertaining to tonight's calendar in the next bill, mister speaker. Mister speaker, move to have house bill 242 which is the next one on the calendar be removed from the calendar and referred to the committee on finance. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Without objection, so ordered. Representative Dockham, the chair would like to be clear that is April the tenth, not May the tenth? Without objection, so ordered. House bill 293, the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House bill 293. A bill for an act amending the secure and fair enforcement mortgage licensing act to reduce regulatory burdens, making clarifying and technical changes, and modifying certain foreclosure proceedings. The general assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Szoka, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The purpose of this bill is to update the North Carolina secure and fair enforcement mortgage licensing act. To make it conform to recent changes in federal law and to make some common sense changes to reduce some regulatory barriers and to make North Carolina law no more restrictive than federal law in these issues. This has the full support of the commissioner of banks. It passed the banking committee unanimously and I know of no opposition to this bill. I ask for your support. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussions? further debate? If not, the question before the house is the passage of house bill 293 on its second reading. All in favor, vote aye. All opposed, vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. One hundred and thirteen having voted in the affirmative and none in the negative, house bill 293 has passed its second reading. And without objection, will be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The general assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Any further discussions? further debate? If not, the question before the house is the passage of house bill 293 on its third reading. All in favor, say aye. All opposed, say no. The ayes have it. House bill 293 has passed its third reading and will be sent to the senate. House bill 296. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Committee substitute for house bill 296. A bill for an act to amend and clarify the educational requirements and establish a hunting heritage apprentice permit. General assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative John Bell, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you mister speaker. Ladies and gentleman, this bill is pretty straight forward. House bill 296 will authorize the wildlife resource commission to issue a hunting heritage apprentice permit which authorizes a person who has not attained a hunter education certificate to hunt along with a licensed hunter at least 18 years of age or a spouse exempt from hunting license requirement if hunting on the land holder's land. This bill also makes several technical changes to the current law. One of the first technical change it makes, it changes the wording of hunter safety and changes that into hunter education. And it also allows a hunting license applicant to make a voluntary contribution of more than what is currently fifty cent. It passed committee unanimously with no opposition. And I ask for your support for the bill. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion? Further debate? If not, the question before the house is the passage of house committee substitute to house bill 296 on its second reading. All in favor, vote aye. All opposed, vote no. The clerk will open the vote. All members wishing to record, please do so at this time. Clerk -

Machine record the vote. [SPEAKER CHANGES] 113 having voting affirmative and none in the negative the House Committee substitute to house bill 296 has passed its second reading and without objection will be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate. If not the question before the House is the passage of the house committee substitute to House bill 296 on its third reading. All in favor say aye. All opposed say no. The ayes have it. The House Committee substitute for House bill 296 has passed its third reading will be sent to the Senate. House bill 317 the Clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Committee substitute for House bill 317 the bill’s being ?? enact to improve educational outcomes for North Carolina children who are deaf or hard of hearing. General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Blackwell please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speak on the bill please sir. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker. This is a bill that I have actually been working on over the course of a couple years and we are back here with what we believe is an improved product and one that merits your success in voting for it. I want to acknowledge Representative Farmer-Butterfield and this year Representative Martin in joining in helping us on this bill and I’ll briefly just characterize a couple things that are in the bill. One of the things that this does is assures the children in the state who have a deaf or hard of hearing problem that a document that has been developed for the purpose of trying to be sure all of their special needs are met is actually used by the IEP teams when the evaluation and the assessments are being done. That’s called a communication plan worksheet and this bill very simply requires its use and in connection with that assures that each individual student’s particular means of communication will be taken into account and the assessment and evaluation will be reviewed at least annually. Another thing that it does in dealing with deaf and hard of hearing students it’s especially important that highly qualified individuals are available to assist in these assessments and meeting their particular needs. And it takes into consideration as well and this is in subsection 3 of section 1 that we’re looking at both their academic and their social skills. One of the great difficulties that some deaf and hard of hearing students have is in developing, as you would expect their communication and literacy skills. And those are very often best developed or more highly developed in a social context. And so rather than them being perhaps excluded or barely included in extracurricular activities the concept is that in planning for the communications needs of these students that those social skills and needs will be taken into account as well as the academic. A final point that I’ll mention from section 1 of the bill is that parents ought to be told that they have as one option, and it’s simply one of several options, a residential school placement. And if they choose to pursue that that a representative from the residential schools will be given the opportunity to participate in the IEP consideration for the student in helping to determining what the proper placement is. Final thing I’ll say on the bill which I think is important as well is that this will create a database in which the Department of Health and Human Services which collects data on deaf and hard of hearing students especially from birth until they enter into the school system will be shared with the department of Public Instruction so that we can have a better picture of how these student’s needs are developing and being met and that ultimately our goal is to determine how they are doing in becoming literate and acquiring the communications skills that need to be successful adults. I was pleased that we appear to have a unanimous support in the House Education Committee and I asked the body to endorse that tonight by giving your support as well. Thank you Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Farmer-Butterfield please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The ladies recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker. Ladies and gentleman. Current statutes

..providing that the State Board of Education may set standards for educational children with disabilities that are higher those required by IDEA and that's the Federal Individuals With Disabilities Act I-D-E-A. This, in my opinion is a good deal in that its primary purpose is on improving educational outcomes for children who have hearing impairments or are deaf. And the bill outlines specifically as Representative Blackwell has stated it tells specific strategies that the State Board of Education has to use to ensure that the children's outcomes are improved. The database that he talked about brought up some discussion in the education committee in terms of security. So, committee workers on this deal immediately found out that there is a family educational rights and privacy act further which protects the confidentiality and security of the database collection, so their information would be protected and be private. Finally, we find that from 2005 to 2006 and then 2010 to 2011, surveys of early intervention programs for children who are deaf or hard of hearing indicated a great increase over the years and children with hearing impairments and deaf are in all 100 counties right now except 4, so I think that's important to know. All the stakeholders are supporting the bill and I ask for your support, thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Martin, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the bill [SPEAKER CHANGES] The latest right now is to debate the bill, the House will come to order. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will say as a Freshman legislature there's a lot of problems that we're facing that seem overwhelming and there's not a good solution and I'm happy to say that in this area, the problem is a little bit different in that we have great resources in our residential schools. The people there have such passion, such skill, and they're just not available to everyone right now and the reason that they're not available is because of the interpretation of the least restrictive environment. As you see in the bill's summary that the least restrictive environment has been interpreted that they should be in the public school system unless they're failing. But for someone who is deaf of hard of hearing and really just the truly deaf which is about 5% of that population of deaf or hard of hearing, it's less restrictive for them to be in an environment where they can communicate with other children and have adult role models and they don't just have one interpreter who can help them communicate maybe with a teacher, maybe with one student and maybe they don't even get to talk to their parents when they get home. So this just provides, empowers parents to make that choice for their student; what is the least restrictive environment and the best education for them. And another good thing it does is it gets our residential schools which serve every county in the state out of ?? and as a support for all of the deaf and hard of hearing willing to be that expert and to come in and support the public schools in any way that they can. So I think that it's an excellent bill, it's difficult, the data thing that they're deaf doesn't identify how deaf they are if they're truly just hard of hearing or if they're signing. So it's a real challenge and this will help with literacy and communication. I commend the bill to you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Insko, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To ask the bill sponsor a question [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Blackwell does the gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I do. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Blackwell, you may have covered this in your comments but I may not have heard it. But this will apply to students who are students in our schools of deaf or in public schools both, right? [SPEAKER CHANGES] If they are deaf and hard of hearing, it would apply to all of them wherever they are. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Follow up. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Gentleman yield for a follow up? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I do. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] And it also, the goal is to make sure that the students gain skills in reading as well as communicating either in spoken language or in sign language. Is that the purpose? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I think the answer is correct if I understood your question. I'm not sure if the word reading is used in there but the communication and literacy skills would certainly encompass that. [SPEAKER CHANGES] And one follow up. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I do. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] You know, maybe this is almost more a comment. My experience is that the parents of these children are very involved with their education. And so, I don't see the family members mentioned in here at all in any way that they would be members of the individual education plan team. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Are you asking if the family members would be members of the IEP Plan Committee? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I think they are included in that. I'm not sure if they're official members of the plan but the concept is that they

would have a participation in that planning. I think the parent doesn't have the ultimate choice of what is the proper location. I think IEP plan folks in the local school would have the final decision. But the idea is the parent would be fully informed and have an opportunity to argue their case with those who are making the decision. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion? Further debate? If not, the question before the house is the passage of house committee substitute to house bill 317 on its second reading. All in favor, vote aye. All opposed, vote no. The clerk will open the vote. All members wishing to record please do so at this time. The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. One hundred and fourteen having voted in the affirmative, none in the negative. The house committee substitute to house bill 317 has passed its second reading and without objection will be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Chairman, North Carolina ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion? Further debate? If not the question before the house is the passage of the house committee substitute to house bill 317 on its third reading. All in favor say aye. All opposed say no. The ayes have it. The house committee substitute to house bill 317 has passed its third reading and will be sent to the senate. House bill 350. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Committee substitute to house bill 350, a bill to ?? an act to make various changes to the juvenile code pursuant to revisions proposed by the court improvement project. The General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Jordan is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you mister speaker. This bill comes to us the court improvement project which was established as part of a grant from the federal initiative to support family preservation, prevention of child abuse, and service to families at risk. We have an annual report to the long section of changes to the juvenile code. Chapter 7 B. This committee is comprised of all the stake holders in children's issues: children's services division, the department of health services, guardian ad litem, department of social services attorneys, juvenile court judges, child welfare attorneys, the attorney general, and indigent defense services, and office of parent representation. This year's bill is 24 pages and 40 sections and the staff summary is four pages. There's some small changes. There's some larger changes. I appreciate the assistance of my colleague, representative Charles Graham, on this bill. We had a very good discussion and presentation in judiciary subcommittee B with the experts on this who have been through this and all the committee members, judiciary B, said they would stand and help answer any questions you may have on the floor and I appreciate representative Glazier, representative Michaux, representative Bryan. At this point, the changes have been very well vetted and unless there are any questions from the floor, at this point I would recommend you vote for the bill. ?? for the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion? Further debate? If not, the question before the house is the passage of the house committee substitute to house bill 350 on its second reading. All in favor vote aye. All opposed, vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. One hundred and fourteen having voted in the affirmative, none in the negative. The house committee substitute to house bill 350 has passed its second reading. Without objection, will be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the house is the passage of the house committee substitute to house bill 350 on its third reading. All in favor vote aye. All opposed, vote no. The ayes have it. The house committee substitute to house bill 350 has passed its third reading and will be sent to the senate. House bill 388. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House bill 388. A bill to ?? an act to amend the law governing assigned counsel in cases of partial indigency to authorize judgements for attorney's fees to be docketed upon the expiration of the probation and to clarify the requirement for a social security number. The general assembly of north carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Jackson is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you mister speaker. Ladies and gentlemen, this bill comes to us from indigent defense services. It would simply amend the law to paying to docketing a judgement against a person who is financially able to pay a portion of his assigned counsel's fee. The bill would also require a court appointed attorney to make a reasonable effort to provide a social security number. Currently once they are appointed and go through the court process they then submit a fee affidavit. If they don't have a social security number, they can't get paid even though may not have any way to contact the defendant after that ?? ?? . [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion? Further debate? If not, the question before the house is the passage of

388 on its second reading. All in favor vote aye. All opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. All members wishing to record, please do so at this time. Representative Jackson. Does the gentleman wish to record? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes, sir. We'd like to vote, vote a yes. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Oh, the gentleman needs to press his green or red button. Representative Warren, does the gentleman wish to record? The clerk will let the machine record the vote. 114 have voted in the affirmative, none in the negative. House Bill 388 has passed its second reading without objection. It will be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Chairman Statesman from North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate. Representative Lewis, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] May I ask the gentleman from Wake? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Jackson, does the gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I yield. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Were you confused by the shades of white that you had to choose from? Was that the problem with the vote? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker. Thank you for that question Representative Lewis. I've been asked all day long about my pants. I didn't go to court today. I'll let everybody know that. All the attorneys will be glad to hear that. But the most relevant comment that I got today was from a representative who will remain unnamed today. He told me that they were very appropriate since I was going to the circus. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Ladies and gentlemen of the House, by prior notice the Chair indicated that we would be adjourning by 7:45. There are two bills left on the calendar. The Chair does not anticipate any lengthy debate. We will allow these bills to move if we can dispose of them over the next couple of minutes. House Bill 396 the clerk will read? Chair needs to dispose of this bill first. Further discussion, further debate. If not, the question before the House is the passage of House Bill 388 on its third reading. All in favor say aye. All opposed say no. The ayes have it. House Bill 388 has passed its third reading and will be sent to the Senate. This will be the final Bill on the calendar today. House Bill 396, the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] ?? for House Bill 396. The bill's been titled to act, to enact a private well water education. An Act at the request of the Department of Environment and Natural Resources. Gentleman Senator North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Katz, you have been recognized to activate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a bill that will save lives. It is a dinger agency request bill from Secretary Scilvara. It was very thoughtful and I researched it very well. And I think it is something that we should all support. It's an educational act to help citizens understand water quality issues with their private drinking wells. There are no mandatory requirements in this and there are no state costs. Unfortunately some of our citizens have contaminated drinking wells and presently the Health Department testing does not necessarily identify that problem. This bill requires the state commission of public health to prepare a program for local health departments to educate well owners. Specifically, it will make them aware of the limitation of the testing that they do. It will make them aware of available options for other testing. And it will make them aware of the minimum safe drinking water standards in North Carolina. I personally know of children and families that have died in North Carolina from drinking contaminated water. This bill, this program well owners can now make informed decisions to test their wells to make sure their families are drinking clean and safe water. This is a very thoughtful bill and I appreciate Secretary Scilvara bringing it forward. I urge your support. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate. If not, the question before the House is the passage of the House committee substitute to House Bill 396 on its second reading. All in favor vote aye. All opposed, vote no. The clerk will open the vote. All members wishing to record, please do so at this time. Representatives Graham and Holly. The clerk will let the machine record the vote. 114 having voted in the affirmative, none in the negative. The House Committee substitute to House Bill 396 has passed its second reading without objection will be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Chairman Statesman North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate. If not, the question before the House is the passage of the House Committee substitute to House Bill 396 on its third reading. All in favor say aye. All opposed say no.

they ayes have it. House committee substitute for House Bill 396 has passed its third reading and will be sent to the Senate. Representative Bill Brawley, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The House committee on transportation will meet at noon tomorrow in room 643. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Notices and announcements. Representative Goodman, please state your purpose. . [SPEAKER CHANGES] For a moment of person privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House will come to order. The gentleman is recognized for a point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and gentlemen of the House, I feel compelled to tell you today that I spent the entire weekend in a state of anxiety. A week or two ago I read that the North Koreans, when they want to do some provocative like fire missiles at the United States, they try to do it on days of historic importance, anniversaries, historical events. Well, apparently, Kim Jung Un, I think I pronounced that right, didn’t know that Saturday was Michael Wray’s birthday. We escaped that, so I just want to wish him a happy birthday so let’s all congratulate him. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Bryan, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A moment of person privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for a point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] This would be the moment for me to...where we would normally congratulate our seatmate for the passage of their first bill unanimously. My seatmate and I agreed that we would not do that to each other, as my seatmate is a military guy who could kill me in a matter of seconds. Instead I would commend you the excellence of our military, and Representative Szoka’s skills, thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Steve Ross, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] My seatmate and I did not have that agreement, and I’d like to take this opportunity to congratulate her on the passage of her first bill, thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Jones, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Two announcements. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to announce that the Capital commission prayer breakfast will take place tomorrow at 7:30 in the morning at the members’ dining room in the legislative cafeteria and secondly, I’d like to announce that the basketball will go on as often happens on Monday night in our usual spot and you’re welcome to come and leave in time to watch the Nation Championship later. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Horn, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for a point of personal privilege. The House will come to order. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do want to bring everyone’s attention to the fact that this is Holocaust Remembrance Day. A lot a years ago, the evil empire, the real evil empire was overtaken and millions of people were freed from one of the most horrible instance in all of human history. I think, I’m just asking you, just give that some thought. I’ve had the, I don’t want to call it pleasure, but let us say opportunity to visit several of these death camps. One of which I visited less than 20 years after the war. A sobering experience to put it mildly. But I do draw your attention to this particular day. To this great suffering for this terrible inhumanity to man. Unbelievable, unfathomable. It’s most interesting that as we recall this victory over a most evil empire that we also acknowledge the passing of one of the giants of the 20th century who, herself, stood up to an evil empire, Lady Margaret Thatcher passed away about 10:00 this morning London time after an extended illness and several strokes. I had the great honor to once meet this incredible woman and I commend her as well to your thoughts. I would like to close with one of her quotes. You want something said, tell a man. You want something done, tell a woman. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Glazier, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for a point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I appreciate Representative Horn’s comments. I was going to hold on those until tomorrow just based on the evening, but I really appreciate what he’s done. I’ll be putting on your desk...

An exhibit card that favorable has the Anne Frank exhibit from the holocaust museum in our town for the next 25 days. Add we have a number of other memorials and programs going on to surround that. But I guess I want to point out ?? there were 6 million Jews who died in the holocaust but there were 12 million people who died. 6 million others were gypsy's and Catholics, they were gay, or they were mentally inferred or mentally retarded or thought to be. And because they were not like the people who were executing them, they were executed. And so, I not only wanna remember those, but I hope we also remember the 24 thousand people around the world who have been designated as the righteous who were people who were not of the Jewish faith who saved tens of thousands of Jews from people exterminated. And those include a number of people in the united states and from countries all through Europe. And so even while the most horrible evil was trying to exterminate a people, and a series of people, there were incredibly wonderful people who risk their lives and in many cases lost their lives to help each other. And i guess the saying that I would hope. A lot of time we say where was god when all that was happening, but the real question is where was man? And in the end I think, we hope none of us will ever be tormented, We hope none of us will ever be the tormentor. But most important thing is never to be indifferent thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Pitman please state your purpose [SPEAKER CHANGES] Personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentlemen is recognized for a point of personal privilege. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr Speaker. I just wanna share with everybody our joy and thanks giving and my family because yesterday i mentioned this in Campo Commision earlier. Our son in law, luitenant Donovan Campbell was on his way to drill, national guard in Brayford, on a motorcycle and a pastor on his way to church didnt see him and took a turn and hit him, and he was knocked about pretty bad but as far as we could tell except for some scrapes and bruises only a broken or sprang ankle, I'm not sure which. So we just thank god that we still have him. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative, the clerk will read [SPEAKER CHANGES] The house committee on rules, calendars and operations will meet tomorrow at 11 in 1228 1327 of the legislature building. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore please state your purpose [SPEAKER CHANGES] A couple referrals mr speaker [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentlemen is recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House bill 466 short title amend private protective service act and fees. We move that bill be removed from the committee on judiciary. The serial referral to commerce be re-stricken and that the bill be referred to committee on finance. [ SPEAKER CHANGES] Without objection, so ordered. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House bill 156 short title honest lottery act that the bill be removed from the committee on preparations subject to calendering at the appropriate times, to rule 36b. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Without objection, so ordered [SPEAKER CHANGES] House bill 508 honors of founders in Macleberg county which is on tomorrows schedule, move that that be removed from Tomorrow's calendar and rescheduled to April the 17th [SPEAKER CHANGE] Without objection, so ordered [SPEAKER CHANGES] And finally, house bill 265 short title automobile insurance regulation modifications strike the bill presently ?? insurance where it will remain but strike the serial referral to transportation and in its place add a serial referral to commerce. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Without objection, so ordered [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further notices and announcements, representative Moore is recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr speaker subject to re-referral bills and resolutions, receipt of community reports move that the house do now adjourn to reconvene tomorrow April the 9th at 2 o'clock PM. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore moves, seconded by representative Martin and subject to the re-referral bills and resolutions and receipt of committee reports that the house will now adjourn and reconvene on Tuesday April 9th at 2 pm. All in favor say aye. All opposed say no. The ayes have it the house stands adjourned.