A searchable audio archive from the 2013-2016 legislative sessions of the North Carolina General Assembly.

searching for


Reliance on Information Posted The information presented on or through the website is made available solely for general information purposes. We do not warrant the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of this information. Any reliance you place on such information is strictly at your own risk. We disclaim all liability and responsibility arising from any reliance placed on such materials by you or any other visitor to the Website, or by anyone who may be informed of any of its contents. Please see our Terms of Use for more information.

House | February 20, 2013 | Chamber | Session

Full MP3 Audio File

The House will come to order. Members, please take your seats. Visitors will retire from the Chamber. Members and visitors in the gallery, please silence all cellular phones and personal electronic devices. Prayer will be offered by Representative Larry Bell. Members and visitors in the gallery, please stand and please remain standing for the Pledge of Allegiance. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Let us pray. God of our weary years. God of our silent tears. Thou who has brought us thus far on our way. Oh, who has by thy might, brought us into the light. Keep us in the path, we pray. That straight and narrow path. Don't let us become drunk with the wine of the world that we forget about thee. Help us to remain true to or God and true to this land that we love. Oh, God, as we begin this new day of work in this Chamber, help us not to weaken ourselves by anger or cheapen ourselves by boasting or pretense. Help us to be real in our work for the citizens of this State. Grant us more wisdom or knowledge, wisdom and understanding of the numerous tasks that are before us. We need your divine guidance and direction as we deliberate over issues and ideas that we hope are in the best interest of all citizens. May our aim always be less to win praise and accolades for ourselves than to further the good and happiness of our fellow beings. Bless each family represented here in this Chamber, grant them good health and grant them peace and comfort as we journey through the many uncertain ventures of this world. Help us to always be certain that you are our God, that you are our Father, our Savior and our Lord. Amen. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic, for which it stands, one Nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore is recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, the journal for Tuesday, February the 19th, 2013, has been examined and found to be correct. I move its approval as written. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore moves that the journal for February 19th be approved as written. All those in favor say aye, all opposed say no. The ayes have it. The journal is approved as written. Petitions, memorials, or papers addressed to the General Assembly of the House, chapter bills will be noted. Ladies and gentlemen of the House, upon motion of Representative from Union County, and all of the members, the Chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to students, parent chaperones and teachers from Rocky River Elementary. Please stand and let us welcome you. [applause] Ladies and gentlemen, also upon motion of Representatives from Wake County, and on behalf of all the members, the Chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to the Glenaire Retirement Center. Please stand and let us welcome you. [applause] Reports of standing committees and permanent subcommittees, Representative...

Representative Tim Moore is recognized to send forth the committee report, the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Tim Moore, chair for the ?? rule of operations of the house. House bill 34, clarifying indecent exposure law, favorable. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Calender [SPEAKER CHANGES] House bill 84, enact medical cannabis act, unfavorable. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Unfavorable calender. Representative Stevens, is recognized to send forth the committee report, the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Stevens, chair for the ?? sub committee C, house bill 75, Clive's Law, increase child abuse penalties. Favorable and re-referred to appropriations. [SPEAKER CHANGES] They will be re-referred to the committee on appropriations. Representatives Howard, Barley, Lewis, and Spencer are recognized to send forth a committee report, the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representatives Howard, Barley, Lewis, and Spencer, house bill, Committee substitute for house bill 37, Cleveland county property transfer. Favorable. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Calender. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House bill 101, repeal the state tax. Recommended referral of appropriations. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The bill will be re-referred on appropriations. Ladies and gentlemen of the house, upon motion from members from Bladen and Harnett counties, Representatives Brisson and Lewis, the chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to the student government from Bladen Community College and their adviser Crystal ?? please stand and let us welcome. Introduction of bills and resolutions, the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representatives Hager ?? house bill 119, natural gas rate adjustment mechanism. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Public utilities and energy. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Hager, ?? Brawley caught the ?? house bill 120, billing inspections, local consistency. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Regulatory reform committee on local government and favorable finance. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative personal, house bill 121, school calender flexibilities in certain counties. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Education in favorable commerce and job development. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representatives Glazier and Stevens, house bill 122, amend ?? fields, family law. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Judiciary subcommittee C [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representatives Glazier, Szoka, Lucas, and Floyd, house bill 123, ?? district court judges ?? funds. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Appropriations. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representatives Glazier, Horn, and Earle, house bill 124, child advocacy center funds. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Appropriations. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representatives Conrad, Hanes, and Langdon, house bill 125, publications and computer code not public record. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Judiciary subcommittee A. Also, please note house bill 18, add ?? referral to regulatory reform. Ladies and gentleman of the house, upon a motion of Representatives Pittman, Martin, Linda Johnson, and Brody. Representatives Brawley and Representative Carl Ford. The chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to the North Carolina's commission of home educators and other home schoolers and parents here in the chambers. Please stand and let us welcome you. ?? House bill 98, the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Committee ?? house bill 98, a bills been entitled to enact authorizing the Johnson county public schools to continue to operate two schools under the alternative calender, in effect for the past 4 years. General assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Daughtry, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. speaker. To speak on the bill.

The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] This is a local bill that went through the Education Committee and ?? two elementary schools in my county. It got a unanimous vote in the Education Committee, and I would appreciate your support. It's a local bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not the question before the House is the passage of the House committee substitute for House Bill 98 on its second reading. All those in favor vote aye, all those opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will let the machine record the vote. 112 having voted in the affirmative and none in the negative, the House committee substitute to House Bill 98 has passed its second reading and without objection will be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] General Assembly of North Carolina, enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of the House committee substitute to House Bill 98 on its third reading. All in favor say aye. All opposed say no. The ayes have it. The House committee substitute for House Bill 98 has passed its third reading and will be sent to the Senate. Ladies and gentlemen, upon motion of Representative Susan Martin and Brian Brown from Pitt Country, the chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to Greenville mayor, Allen Thomas, city manager, Barbara Lipscomb, and city attorney, Dave Holley. Please stand and let us welcome you. [applause] House Bill 82, the clerk will--if the clerk will yield for a minute. Ladies and gentlemen of the House, I've been advised by the rules chair that it looks like we may be able to have session at 11 am tomorrow. However, I want to be absolutely certain of that, so if there is any member of the chamber who has a meeting conflict with that, please confer with Representative Moore before we get to notices and announcements. House Bill 82, the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Committee substitute for House Bill 82, a bill to be entitled "An Act to Update the Reference to the Internal Revenue Code and to Decouple From Certain Provisions of the Federal American Taxpayer Relief Act of 2012." General Assembly of North Carolina, enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Howard, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Yesterday when we voted on this bill, and I know I'm half-way violating the rules when I talk about bills that we already voted on, but when I looked up and saw the vote I truly blamed myself that obviously I had not given you a good explanation for what this IRC update bill did. For all the folks who misunderstood, and I'm going to say I believe you misunderstood what was in this bill. You chose to vote against allowing your constituents to take the tax credits for the education expenses that they have spent for their spouses or for their kids or whomever. We voted against that. We also voted against the 15-year depreciation on all lease holds for restaurants and retail improvements. Of course, all of us, I believe, ran on jobs and commerce and expanding job opportunities in the State of North Carolina. And unfortunately, when we voted no on that provision, that was a disincentive for folks to invest in these opportunities. You voted against the tax-free distribution from IRA's to charities for individuals that are 70 and a half years old. There were so many good things in this simple IRC update bill. Actually I've never, in my history here, had heard any debate on the IRC update bill. It's something...

can't they just read-only he said that this is a time, at 40 to offer about adding to the 69th upon the fact is, agents and invest and the U.S. that he was at 137 there was neither encountered screened when he hired as standout they're ?? he hired hands and screening of the west would have welfare reforms inside us that when that was not that he and 75 NFS red-hat writing contest ran a less time-and what have you and me and him as a city routes and was the first one since 1975 many ?? by NAZI State that has been banned from our Independence Day indebtedness stay in college, and, as did any his answer any percentage of that Federal he and dance credit that we have had his life and Pakistani and the answer at the end of the stand trial our income tax credit for his access the Internet, states that can, and a hard time as his users and spending and this year next year when the front and back from higher income tax credit media and chains that everyone into the back of the cable ?? actress-19, at 1975, that was entered as ?? care and then see if any brief, estimated that many of the Internet might , you will have a little bit higher by stands tat, I'm the high income tenants, and the man page, and I think of the income tax would last half of the pastime, highlighted the higher income tax client event, and chimes hands of fact in a stain us here we have stands up for an agency and the end of the ?? that might have to find they can't see anything we, all taxpaying time that they take a more stains SNA, like you would set a static tax relief and anytime didn't address this is a revival tax credit on the tiny as you write this taxpayer was active content creation and North Carolina not announce here ?? in an accident of two-and we pass legislation that have been issued many as 3.5 Brazilian artist and a time strand of DNA and said, in Afghanistan tradition of it rains and you got his time are < main wing at Dallas-10 has happened in after his hands and you will find CNN Center and more than 20 miles 30 action, and that once the plane of reading sanctions and at task that lies in the East China-backed me up, in the main we increase the company flight back to C at how the Federal grant gets into pristine mountain time in that you as in C halftime and has continued its eruptions us send ER and enhancement the half-minute I least here ??....

childhood. For that. Does have that that stuff that I live and have them back, then to the state's finances and Sydney, higher-end, that the nightline styled , taking an estimate as they leave, CNN 92 incident was a bad weather in june with cash, it happens that were invested a lot of demands that we think it's a mad city, Panama to the Federal government's of the stains and last year's time have enough, then contacts and Cardiff rather than in the plot of land that I might find time at Shenandoah Valley of this deal that are still waiting said the man and Stanford fell at the knapsack, NL and it possibly have the time he had they get the money that needed them into the weekend, and as we get into crime outstanding feature a sack of his money to outside chance to even that honestly and not be the proper topic a slight and see if the handful have a policy of this activity ?? of the things that mean they're better off its ally and riled up a little better investment in the mornings and see if we had a capacity of its five sites in announcing that is more interactive and 95 times the day after he said that when we went from time to take over day last year we as a set time to buy another you with us, he was he has established out on the facts recorder and making¢ just read the sounds in the event and suspend the times and he has abandoned its interaction Sammy and 89, when we're in windfall without does not stand that many after he said wryly of the heart and our income tax, let alone his state had at that we have my staff out of Indiana may have seen players from $218.50 estate investments is: has ?? it is not access and enhances the client settings and then dollars at an option to give a reason behind the data, a student at the site for you to science and the events and riled FM-you that he has that bill is as bad as the gang that time, address and when that Sanders, a pressman, as well, in an NSA, and 1/2, these planes and Daniel and Sami Appleton, I'll of the city's main thing that made him and sent you a tax and that he-E, F, rinsed and any that is, as a lineman from using-handers wizard of accusations that came from the natural remedies time at Washington to tell us that he would hear from fighting for his 28 at seven, released at the trial the Essen, Constance rice company for C up at the deeper seen a RE 5 and three-day I'm not have not yet gone and contacts and claimed ERE and credits Chinese and proximity information they soon as the acid anhydride was treated at meridian family after that, that's not bad for white and??......

at Tyler Baze has a lot of enhanced to staff it might have helped defend the fact is, how he and Montana, and said that by detached that the timeout and stronger brain cancer run to lead paint and ??hood trauma that the event as a fighter and see the sense that there's any era guardian of this tax dollars in the another ?? being home that 30% and even then. That plan does not stand our hitting project information I'll they're happy that he had a contacts, and that he had they are finally in the half and happens Monday , an agency has set the example of the time, Monday night behind the time he's from tonight in, and access to the members of the same line as hard time making this idea of a page and that any event, he said ?? it sounds like to get the eighties Costin and a lot of hard a time taxpayers found error spines to me that he headed by the number and 1/2 that you are right for a football-to stop his hands before chimes facts are changed the name of successful ice cream, defender in the program has started mining activity event that season students, and have a grinning and have spent a week and we can stop the ?? that is not as good as the Pakistani and someone has been outstanding at the scene of the stage of many of the Phalen, and that's you have any less than 20 times and the nation S Baker at the conference committee tiled the state level as anyone have that than the things we bet finance investigation of handing something that we did, it helped that can happen if I did not ask CNN interactive deadliest act as a penny of many, many people have on your computer and USA Holland in the ?? and he had it is this the LPGA's, he said at AR- SD of time is not heal to stop you for him, and strength that are in happened time even it was a NAZI and as today when seemed rather interesting with constitution's eyes he radiated Physician can have any money and staff at times and when you have got to have the depth that hardly anyone had any chime hands and slower, a fraction of the living bank 5/5 provision ?? I had an average of two days ended yesterday that he had been pressed into service, and service speaker , and, as the trial that he and his seven- and at us into the home of that name of acting and ES of the things that here's a man to your destination of data may not go into, we're not going to hear inside the decisive rest of us at the time the sports arena, and fast redistribution and the attack on the same time, and optioned and , hence the name of the detainees information please see archived water and at the event of a ??............

Ladies and gentlemen, it's the right thing for you to do to vote yes on this. One tiny silver of this bill talks about earned income tax credit and only because...again...and I say this honest and sincerely...again, the federal government changed the rules. I ask you to vote for this bill and, Mister Speaker, I'll be glad to try and answer any questions. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Michaux, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mister Speaker and ladies and gentlemen of the House I had planned not to say anything on the bill because it's a fait accompli on it away, so you can listen to me or just go ahead on and take what was said. I appreciate you Representative Howard for that explanation but I wasn't voting against what was in the front part of the bill, I was voting for those people who receive that earned income tax credit and contrary to what has been said the good things in the conformance part of this to the IRS code. If you go back and read it, what you are doing is increasing a lot of the exemptions...really for a lot of folks, so of those who really don't need that type of increase in exemptions. What you're doing, is that little piece of change that these folks get from the earned income tax credit in this state could mean the difference between going into poverty or being able to pay a month's rent or buying some food for the kids. The reason that the earned income tax credit exists is for those low wage income people who just are barely on the cusp of making it. And the amount involved that's attributable to the state is miniscule. You're talking about 105 to 110 million dollars overall. The average check that goes out is somewhere in the neighborhood of 280 million..280 dollars, which is, like I say, it helps those low wage earners to meet their obligations. Now, if you had left this out of the bill, I think that it would have been 100 percent voted for. If you want to do that but when you start taking from the needy and give to the greedy, there's a problem... [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mister Speaker? [SPEAKER CHANGES] ...and that problem is... I will not yield. [SPEAKER CHANGES] ...gentleman will yield. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Blust, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To see if Representative Michaux will yield for some questions. [SPEAKER CHANGES] No, I won't [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman does not yield. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Until after I'm through. Now, the only thing I’m saying to you is that I voted my no vote on that bill was for those folks who are not going to get that earned income tax credit. Sure they're going to get the federal. You can't do anything about that and we know that but that little extra amount...that little bitty amount that goes to them will help them probably avoid the lines of poverty. So, if we can't take that out...and if you want to let it expire and when it expires..fine. We can do something about it then but don't take it out on us right now. Let's just go ahead on...vote... [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mister Speaker? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Howard, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] With all due respect Mr. Michaux... [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the lady wish to… [SPEAKER CHANGES] May I ask you a question, please? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Well, since Representative Blust asked you to ask me this and knew I respected that, I'll answer it for you, yes ma'am. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields to you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Representative Michaux. Representative Michaux, you've been here longer than I have and you're certainly much more learned than I am but with all due respect, looking at this sheet...when you've find the column that talks about earned income tax credit...in that column it says, in parenthesis, no 2012 lull change. Meaning that...

for tax filers for last year, there is no change. We are keeping our word. We are keeping our promise that everything remains whole for all of the tax filers for last year. Follow-up, Mr. Michaux. I know you remember last year when we did legislation to extend the earned income tax credit one more year. It was supposed to end at the end of the year, January 1 of 13, but we extended it another year. Again, if you look under that column, for the year 13, we opted to conform and made a minor adjustment, half of 1% in order to keep the revenues the same, and to fulfill our promise, the promise that we made when we voted this bill originally on the floor of this house, and we had the provision that it would sunset at the end of 12. So, we're not changing anything that we promised to do. To the contrary, we are allowing an additional year of the credit to continue, and making one minor adjustment. And I know you're right, it's about $245. So, that's about 10 or $12.00 less. I guess I'm just asking that in the form of a question, Representative Michaux, because I know you know a lot more about this than I do. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Howard, I appreciate the question, and I admit that I've been here, not since the earth cooled, but a little bit after that. Here again, I'm looking at everything that you've said there. I'm looking at the fact that the further extension that was there is no longer there. I think you'll agree with me on that, and that what you're doing is really one of those situations where you still, this year, 2012, yes. I agree with you. I don't have a problem with 2012. I have a problem with 2013, is where my problem is. And 2014 is where my problem is. And even in the future on it. Be that as it may. The fact of the matter is still the fact that these folks who are getting it are not going to be getting it after the 2014 year, which is on here right now. The only thing I'm saying is, here again, following everything that's happened since we've been here, and looking at tax reform, we've done tax reform bit by bit by bit. At least three of the pieces of tax reform have already been passed, to a degree. So, all I'm asking is that you let these poor people who take that little bit of money that they get and to keep that little bit of money, and to not put themselves on the poverty level. I'm going to still vote for those little people, and vote no on this bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Stam. Representative Howard, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Question to representative Michaux. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Michelle, does the gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes, Judy, fine, go ahead. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mickey. I appreciate you. Mr. Michaux, you do realize, that if it was the will of this body to change the original legislation that we passed. You and I were here, and we voted for it. To initially provide the 5% credit. And you and I voted that that provision would sunset. We agreed, and we all voted for that. That it would be possible for anybody in this chamber to

legislation to further extend that provision. Have it properly debated and that anybody could do that if they so chose. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Yes ma'am and I think that was done. I think there was an amendment to extend it. It was put on yesterday and like you say, it's the wheel of the body that does it and you got the wheel and we just a part of the body. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Representative Pierce please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: To speak on the Bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: The gentleman is recognized to debate the Bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Thank you Mr. Speaker. Ladies and gentlemen, we have realized that the right of Ecclesiastes says to everything there is a season and a time, and we know spiritually what we've experienced the last couple of weeks since we've been here that truly this is just another nail in the coffin of the poor. Those of us of the legislative black caucus we're getting phone calls from all over the State, not only the districts we serve but the districts many of you serve asking us what in the world is going on in Raleigh. I'm not sure if the areas you come from you have poverty and poor people in your district. I just believe that you do knowing that that [xx] there are poor people in our districts and they're questioning us the members of the black caucuses if we're making these decisions to put them further and further in poverty. So, I would ask that when you get a chance to go back home this weekend when you have your Town Hall meetings and travel that you let the folks of your district know just what has been going on because they're questioning us as if we know all that's going on. Those are your districts. The people that you represent that you came to Raleigh that said you would represent. And I am just amazed at the war of poverty that is going on and I think the citizens need to know that there is a war going on to further take their benefits away that they've had and they've enjoyed and what amazes me about it is people in poverty and poor people come in all colors. If it was just one ethnic group, we could get away with it but poverty and poor people come in all colors. The people that all of us serve and that we swore we would serve the State of North Carolina are facing difficult times and going through some...it's just tough out here and a lot of the legislation that we've passed since we've been here truly has had devastation on the poor and it put more people in poverty. The income tax credit is one of the best tools that we have to fight poverty. North Carolina has the 13th highest poverty rate in the nation and more than 1 in 4 [??] children are living below the federal poverty level. [??] poverty rates are even higher definitely for Afro-Americans those that many of us serve and many of you serve. These credits go to fathers and mothers across the State that have jobs and go to work each day trying to provide for their families. We should all be working together to find solutions to lift more families out of poverty. Sadly, it seems we're going in the opposite direction. We should keep the earned income tax credit in place so we can lift more families out of poverty. I urge you, first of all, to vote no, but another point about it, Mr. Speaker, is that many of these systems who get as Representative Howard said, 2-300 dollars or whatever the amount, but it goes back to small businesses in our community. Think about the mom and pop operations. Think about the little stores that sometimes that little 2-300 dollars could be a make or break situation. Think about our local businesses. Think about those rural areas that are experiencing at the present time loss of jobs. It makes a real big difference. Those of you who are businessmen understand the bottom line. It takes people with small amounts of money, people with large amounts of money to keep a business running. So, I would ask people to consider these things as we go forward. I would like to thank you all for allowing me this opportunity to stand, as always to speak, but this is bigger, this issue is complex, it's bigger. The more we dig and the more we deal with it more people are being... [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Representative Boles please state your purpose? [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Will Representative Pierce yield for a question? [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Does the gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Yes. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Representative Pierce will you show me the page and line number in this Bill that eliminates the earned income tax credit in North Carolina. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Your very member stood up, Representative, Howard, and talked about how it would expire at the end of 2012, if I'm correct and going into '13 and '14. It would not be there. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Follow up Mr. Speaker? [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Does the gentleman yield to a follow up? [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Yes. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Is it in this Bill Representative Pierce? You've gone on quite a bit about that and raised a ruckus. Is the repeal of the earned income tax credit in this Bill? [SPEAKER CHANGES]: The amendment that we had took it out of there.

[??] Thank you Mr. Speaker for allowing me that time. I just hope as we go forward, many of us who come from different parts of the states represent people who are already having difficult times and it would be hard for any of us to stand in here, all of us, and not talk about those issues that affect the people we serve each and every day. Thank you for allowing me this opportunity. [Speaker]: Representative Stam, please state your purpose. [Representative Stam]: Speak on the Bill. [Speaker]: The gentleman is recognized to debate the Bill. [Representative Stam]: Five things would happen that I’ve circled on here. If a no vote prevails, people taking deductions for student loan interest would loose 9 million dollars. Is that what you intend? People taking income exclusions for employer provided education assistance would loose 9 million dollars. Is that what you intend by a no vote? Rich people don’t pay mortgage insurance premiums because they don’t have, they have more [??] equity than that. Only people with lesser incomes pay those premiums. Do you really intend by voting no to cause those people 5 million dollars? Who gets a discharge of residence indebtedness and income exclusion for that? Well people who get foreclosed on. Do you really intend by a no vote to call people who have already lost their homes to foreclosure to cost them an extra 2 million dollars? Then for those who are concerned about the Earned Income Tax Credits since the fiscal note says that this Bill has no effect on the earned income tax credit for last year or this year, what are you intending to do? I urge a yes vote. [Speaker]: Representative Richardson, please state your purpose. [Representative Richardson]: Thank you Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask a question. [Speaker]: Would the lady wish to direct it to Representative Howard? [Representative Richardson]: Yes. Thank you. [Speaker]: Does the lady yield? [Representative Richardson]: Representative Howard I appreciate your hard work on this Bill and I was sitting here thinking that if this Bill is so wonderful, except for this one piece, is it possible to pull this one piece out and formulate it under another number? [Representative Howard]: What piece are you… [Representative Richardson]: The repeal of the Earned Income Tax. [Representative Howard]: Ma’am, we’re not repealing the Earned Income Tax Credit in this Bill. [Representative Richardson]: Excuse me. The sunset of the Earned Income… [Representative Howard]: Nor are we sunseting the Earned Income Tax Credit with this IRC update. Neither, are we doing in this Bill. The only thing this Bill is doing is trying to conform or decouple from the Federal Code, the new laws that the Internal Revenue has just passed in the Fiscal Cliff legislation, that we received about the 3rd or 4th day of January and we are just trying to sort through all of those provisions to make determinations of what we do with that. [Representative Richardson]: May I have another question Mr. Speaker? [Speaker]: Does the lady yield? [Representative Howard]: Yes. Sir. [Speaker]: The lady yields. [Representative Richardson]: Are you telling me that this Bill in 2014 people who are eligible to receive the Earned Income Tax Credit can still apply for that credit? [Representative Howard]: At the Federal level? Yes ma’am. [Representative Richardson]: No. I’m speaking of the state level. [Representative Howard]: Ma’am I would encourage you to go back and read the original legislation when North Carolina passed the Bill to provide the 5 percent, it had automatically a sunset provision in that Bill. In this Bill that we’re debating today has absolutely nothing to do with that original Bill that we passed in 2007 in both Chambers. It was part of the budget Bill. There’s a total disconnect between what we debated yesterday and where we’re sort of going again today. This Bill does, when you get down to the line on Earned Income Tax Credit, as I’m reading again, you have it there at your seat. There is no 2012 law change. None. [Representative Richardson]: Mr. Speaker, may I ask another question. [Speaker]: If

?? ?? cannot have a say-digest his batting average is 4.1, the shareholder activists doesn't want to read I mean shareholder and 100 basically a share of receipt earned office of the night he has requested a sudden, and , so I have a sense to play a part of a question I've written our video stores wants cell as stale NFS don't use the path in time since injuring that he was a sentence with three and is not too late in the United Center of the bus and wants with me fast you drive the information that is not a factor in saying that you would find some way I live in Fresno last year when Kent Hundley of the different deal not only contacted a of found in cannot finance committee at which led, 3.5% stake randy Tyler me are they in fact stratified to the fact of the happy else enter as landed the eye and say he is tradition when of five and one at the facts and he and other hand in hand service, at that time Seattle and a 30 , still has shown an up week and last here you are in, as this is a real intent when the winds, are the tax reforms are this year winning a pretty tough as candidate Lionel R point here is a man days and he and drive at Saint Anthony Hopkins and enhancements and why not here that he and Smith at the backstage, you have one set up, and times here semi-Mac, a visiting head you have your hand and forearm, scoring here where Tony atlas down and a committee because we're mandated me to want more here chimes in Aston, some sites in players inside the city listed as an NT Pass sample beyond family at what had happened I mean, is that it is a columnist since, as I'm section one like you it as well as money and the higher debt are famous and that's the concept of fidelity has since had been standing, and speaker Richard resort story next to become less intense than as a left at least a few dozen questions ?? person Richardson is ideal person at one time request by U.S. And the Internet-contest in a in, a conscience this season, it said you will have said, as I know we're in today and when you have it has not happened that many as you the one hand, and that means car is our from two that you have that can't stand by and say it's the & partition when you manually act that intervention that we are many different color depth revision and we have not been added trial that U.S. That are interesting and found wind up in the sun line the signs time as a nominee is scenario whether anybody interested in is 1000 inmates when you have acted in a best thing everyone in the state sector because longtime incumbents investment losses in place and falling person Jackson PlayStation purpose was only slightly a ?? ID of the U.S. House well financed and all comments on time ??...........

can still become the QuickTime as you ?? of some rates and slammed his window and time needed to pass the arrest and you'll often company has already announced in a ?? that are not listed as it possibly some instances and options in western shirts reading best interest of where asking the column in the current time has many who answer for eight days are past 10 years or conversely, we are we are in conformance ID and we opted to take a whole lot of them have occasion of times he helped me get higher * on the issues of all is a times U.S. interests Friday and Stephen: the stupidity of a – error, an astonishingly high as the couple from a bad time for initiatives as amended his son, not seeing any nonsense time for the issuance of a plane for the day, you have the 50-MPH on the action was taken ?? DC asking that no comment, as of may is any of college and whenever anything Wednesday meeting, and more dismaying that settled at me, ?? ?? ?? was invented, normalcy Shanahan and housing is about, and the knowledge base year and still be happy to have fixed in time is and other of ?? at that if we have informed and here's a staffing from six billion dollars sitting in for me and partain court and riled up with us I did it was the one used as a cost of times between these permissions because he's what it means it is interesting is inclined to Colfax was instances of it and wanted to start spring last EC affects increase on time you'll make real and in it as a matter of time is Friday night at the Jenkins, are listed at 17, and you're out I'm happy, but his knee-high, and you can't hear the actions of defense-safe and Wilson, is not a timer has made no one seemed weekly just makes me be clear that one of the yesterday was not I'm already compressed and it was also the same provisions on at the dancing with these tax cuts the issue of short time to waste into the line wasn't won the tax increase as a result of passages below! Stains in as many as one part of this is not just opens Wednesday and riled ?? it was as these woods also be on the city's taxi and resulted in per ?? dollar PlayStation purpose ??'s have that ?? care that has the ear hostile bid on that mission-about ??.........................

We complied with everything that the federal government just did a month or so ago, it would cost the state budget of North Carolina over [AUDIO DROPS], over $300 million dollars. Where's that money coming from folks? And I also hear as Representative Howard just in the last month and a half. But what we cannot do in this state is we cannot sit here and say oh we want to do this and we want to do that without understanding that these things cost money. And where you gonna get that money from? You gonna come back to the tax payers and we're gonna raise your taxes right now? I don't think that's gonna happen. Mr. Speaker I would recommend the passage of this bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Collins please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I hear a lot of heated oratory sometimes passed for debate on this floor. I've heard it said today we're doing a war on poverty. I again would commend to you that if you really want to fight the war on poverty call our president, call out congressmen, tell them to quick inflating our currency and killing our poor people with rising prices. The price of gas keeps going out of sight, it will as long as we keep deflating the US currency. I've heard we're taking away benefits from people who enjoy them, I've heard we're taking from the needy and give to the greedy. I don't hear these terms ever defined. I don't know if the greedy or the 30% who's taken this benefit by fraud or what, but I would like to say this. There are two groups in this house. One group unfortunately is having to make tough decisions because of a 140 years of leadership form a monolithic party that despite decades of high revenues back in the eighties and nineties left us in a financial funk when we took over this chamber two years ago. Again I have people asking me constantly, why in the world would you run for this office especially at a time like this when the state is two and a half billion dollars in the hole? Well it turns out once we found out all the holes that two and a half billion was just gravy on top of the potato. It turned out to be seven billion dollars by the time you add the unemployment comp we owed to the feds, the shortage in the state retirement plan, the shortage in the state health plan. Just a couple of months ago I found out at an educators meeting that we still owe seven hundred and something million to some school IT fund we're supported to have been funding that wasn't funded before we got here. So I'm still finding holes that have been dug for us before we got here. Now we don't like everything we're having to do. I don't like raising the suit attacks on small businesses. There's whole lot of things I don't like that we're having to do, but somebody has got to step up, be the adult in the room, as my friend representative Blust likes to say, and make the hard calls. The rest of you can afford to talk to the cameras and take your five minutes of fame or whatever. I'll say this if my constituents knew I was willing to vote for a program with 30% fraud in it they would run me out of my district in a heartbeat. I commend this bill to you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Adams state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] A question for Representative Howard. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Howard does the lady yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes sir. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you representative Howard. Obviously there's been a lot of concern about this bill. I'm a little puzzled since you have the majority of the votes super why we've been talking about it so long because it passed the well [??] yesterday. But I guess the question I have is I think representative Richardson asked about taking a portion of the bill out, a portion of it out, and you indicated if it was the will of the body, my question to you is would you agree to an amendment to do it? Since it appears we're trying to get everybody to vote for it and I think you could probbaly get more votes for it if we could do that. So would you be agreeable to that? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Actually I would not, but what I would say to you if that amendment did pass what you would see is we would be conforming to the 2012 and if you take it out then we would not necessarily be able to conform to 2013, and so I would not recommend that Representative Adams, so no ma'am I couldn't support that. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Another question Mr. Speaker? [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady yields? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes sir. [SPEAKER CHANGES] So you would not be - so there would be no way to extend it then at this point. Is that what you're saying? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes ma'am there is a way to extend it. Someone needs to file a bill that would simply say, it would not be anything tied to this...

video him had been so made and then how is it I don't know how better to say it. he won in this chamber who wants takes to send the file jealous Arminian context diagram and say that I was up all night, then your department of revenue in Internal Revenue Service is blatantly telling us nerdy person. the world by the body that would want to file that details is freighted as you and it would be asimple video to say they are going to extend the earned income tax credit from the end of this year to eternity. a few centuries. it would make a prerogative that this body in many of this away. why mess questions in the audience. this doesn't happen if I found the villages supported them. I am not waiting on a few of them orchestrate your purpose to briefly debate the bill [SPEAKER CHANGES] recognized in a commissioner to member say your in the process of this debate [SPEAKER CHANGES] , I wanted to find out when there was talk about this earned income tax credit where this came from and I wanted to remind the members of the former majority party, that every one of those members you are still here voted for a deal that could even sunset. anything was such a great idea. I would question whether his members put in the sunset. in the first place, but be that as it may misspeak with a very strong and vigorous debate, but they recognized her motion to bring us for most of [SPEAKER CHANGES] Reperesentor the previous question is evermore as the previous question I'll will always oppose about notebook equipment All in favor vote aye. All opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will let the machine record the vote are collapsing or the thirty nine hundred affirmative and thirty seven. the negative emotion passes, ladies and gentlemen, according to the rules adopted by this house. I would allocated four minutes or other side to to provide comments before the vote jurist is correct. it was at one point it was a proposal for four minutes reps are probably the limit is three minutes. the gentleman researcher purpose of this beautiful minute rule be reinstated. thedemo is now noted two minutes and forty five seconds of their most mosquito [SPEAKER CHANGES] ladies and gentlemen the house. it won't take long to do this because it is clear what we're doing here and as you lookat his meal. a well intended piece of legislation. maybe, but as we talk about reducing the revenue for the state in saying all we can afford to cut out the earned income tax credit or not extended forthe poorest of our workers for working families. at the same time we find a way to give an additional eighteen million in extra deductions as eighteen million more dollars out of the coffers of somepeople have said are so critical to the success of his state at the same time were saying we can help these working families were saying we can give an additional eighteen million in revenue breaks for those who don't need so you matter of great concern and it is something working poor families working families see our values here and they seated were not really working in their best interest in your districts in my district. I have high earned income tax credit families in my district number, and many of you due to what you would look to see what just don't want to know in your voting against them in large numbers, but ask that you not support this bill that we come back and do better. we can do better and do our best urban starts recognized for. not to exceed three minutes whiteness regulations over the house not think we need a reality check for this bill in the perspective is unfortunate that we allow the earned income tax credit become a political football in this debate earned income tax credit is set fixed our investment decision is my cell years

Representative: …by the democratic majority in the general assembly. Here I have a copy of house bill 51 from the 2007 the session, where a large number of members on that side signed a bill for the EIC tax credit, but here is house bill 1473, which was the budget bill and the democrats, under the leadership of Representative Rucho, who is the senior chair of appropriations, they put the sunset in there. They could have made the EIC a permanent part of our tax code, but they chose to put the sunset in there. It received support, not only from minority leader Hall, but a vast number of the members over there. Folks, our economy is sick, the medicine is bitter, but we need to make the patient well. For two long, we have used the tax code to implement social policy as opposed to using the tax code to promote economic growth. When the general assembly changed hands from the democrat to republicans, there was a change in the philosophy of how we solve problems in this state. We do not believe that government is a benevolent father doling out money to its citizens. We believe in individual responsibility and we are convinced that people will provide for themselves and their families if given an opportunity to manage their resources. It has been said, and rightly so, that a rising tide lifts all boats. Our goal is to get our economy moving and growing so that, not only do our boats arise together, but we all reach the safe harbor safely. Working families of NC are not alone and the republicans have not abandoned the small people of this state. We have a graduated tax system in NC that is based upon your ability to pay. Remember that the citizens who received the EIC tax credit, filed their taxes and they owe the state zero tax dollars, or very little money at all. We have in place today a tax system that recognizes that low income workers and their families deserve special help. Our tax system is designed to help them out. Even without the EIC tax credit, this will not place an additional burden on low income families because they will basically pay zero dollars in income taxes. The workers are filing their taxes and paying what they owe, which is very little. As legislators, I think we need to take the legislative Hippocratic oath, which says, do no harm. Folks, this is a good bill and it does not harm to the citizens of NC. I urge you to vote yes. Speaker: The question before the house is the passage of the house committee substitute to house bill 82 on its third reading. All in favor will vote aye, all opposed will vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote: 80 having voted in the affirmative, 36 in the negative. House committee substitute to house bill 82 has passed its third reading and will be sent to the senate. House bill 77, the clerk will read. Oh, if the clerk will yield for a moment. Ladies and gentleman we had a lengthy debate. I see that the doctor and the nurse of the day in the chamber would like to welcome Dr. Ward Adcock from Gastonia and nurse Hartley from Carrey. Thank you for being here today and for your service. [clapping[ The clerk will read. Clerk: House bill 77, a bill entitled an act to delete a revision of $50 payment to [xx] board examiners to have that has not been paid since the 1970’s and to clarify a provision to expenses of that board as recommended by the general statute commission. NC general assembly enacts. Speaker: Representative Bluss is recognized to debate the bill. Representative: Thank you Mr. Speaker, members of the house. We had a good vote on this yesterday. I hope that you will vote for the bill again today. We did carry it over for third reading to answer a question that was posed to whether the bill affects volunteers that help the law examiners grade these tests. The bill does not affect the volunteers. I am told by the board that they do pay an honorium to the volunteers of $400 for helping out. They do have also some volunteers that are law professors, lawyers and judges to help draft a questions for the bar exam.

they do it gratis but the volunteers are getting four hundred dollars. I again commend the bill to you. It just simply does away with an archaic fee payment that's in the law that has not been used in several years. I urge your support. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion? Further debate? If not, the question before the house is the passage of house bill 77 on its third reading. All in favor vote aye. All opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. Clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. One hundred and seventeen having voting in the affirmative and none in the negative, house bill 77 has passed its third reading and will be sent to the senate. House bill 29. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House bill 29. A bill to enact an act to create the offense of possession of pseudoephedrine if the defendant has a prior conviction for the possession or manufacture of methamphetamine when children, disabled, or elderly are present, as recommended by the house select committee on methamphetamine abuse. The general assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Horn, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you mister speaker. Ladies and gentlemen of the house, I have bad news for you. I have tried to find a Churchill quote to begin my presentation and I have failed. But I have good news for you. We have a great bill and a great opportunity for you right now to support a decision by North Carolina's attorney general, support a decision by the sheriff's association and law enforcement across this state and support people of North Carolina fight one of the most insidious drug issues we've got. Methamphetamine. There's pictures on your desk of what that terrible stuff does. It's a one and done. Every county in this state has a meth problem. Every county and it's growing like crazy. So here is an opportunity to begin to stick a finger in a dike. A finger into the hole in the dike. So I ask you to support this bill that will not only create a new offense for those that make methamphetamine in the presence of a child or a elderly or a disabled person but will also raise the bar for those that have been convicted for making methamphetamine and have shown that they are going to do it again by possessing the one and only ingredient you have to have to make methamphetamine and that is pseudoephedrine. The only ingredient you have to have to make pseudoephedrine. I think the odds are pretty good that if you've been convicted meth cooker and you're found with pseudoephedrine on you, odds are pretty good you're going to be making more meth. So this bill does not take away anything from anyone from the standpoint, doesn't prohibit you from buying anything legally within legal limits. It just sends a clear message to meth cookers and a clear message to our citizens that we're going to do the best we can to protect you. We can do better than this but this is a good start. I urge you to pass this bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Faircloth, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you mister speaker. Ladies and gentlemen of the house, you've heard representative Horn. He is dedicated to this cause and I honor his dedication. He has worked so hard on this. I want you to know that those of us who have watched the scourge of drugs come through North Carolina since back in the sixties, have never seen a drug like methamphetamine. It is the single most destructive drug that we know of. And it is so simple to make. That is what really makes it so difficult to deal with. If you think about opium and all those terrible drugs that are shipped across the ocean, they're fairly simple to put together but not nearly as simple as methamphetamine. Go to the drug store, stop in the aisle at the local Walmart, pick up a few things, step back to the back of the building and mix

Bottle in either a bomb goes off or another group of people are using drugs. This is a drug that once it’s taken, you’re hooked. It’s almost impossible to get away from it. Look at those pictures on your desk. Most of those pictures were about 2 and 3 years apart. The person on the left was arrested for something at one point and had their picture taken. The person on the right is the same person after continued destructive use of methamphetamine. The only questionable part of this bill is the part that makes it a violation for someone who has been convicted if making methamphetamine who has in their possession the ingredient pseudoephedrine ?? If you are worried about a person that uses that as a cold medicine not being able to get it, it does not affect that in any way. We assure you they can use that if they want to. There are several other medication that will work as well. This only seeks to get at the person that is manufacturing this and who’s doing great destruction to our society. I urge your support of the bill. [Speaker Changes] Representative Jones, state your purpose [Speaker Changes] to debate the bill [Speaker Changes] gentleman is recognized to debate the bill [Speaker Changes] Thank you Mr. Speaker. Just very briefly, these drugs are poisoning our young people and Representative Horn, this is a little bit light hearted but I looked up just to see if there is a Churchill quote that has to do with drugs and there is one that has to do with poison. Nancy Aster said to Winston Churchill, sir if you were my husband, I would give you poison. And Churchill’s response was, Ma’am if I were your husband I would take it. I just wanted to say that is a lighted hearted thing and this is not a light hearted issue but if that helps us to remember that these drugs really are poisoning our young people. And I think we as the general assembly need to take what actions that we do to try to get rid of this poison in North Carolina. So ladies and gentlemen I commend this bill too. [Speaker Changes] Representative Earl, please state your purpose. [Speaker Changes] speak on the bill [Speaker Changes] Lady is recognized to peak on the bill. [Speaker Changes] Mr. Speaker and members, I had some questions and concerns about this bill in committee. And I’m going to you that I’m going to vote for it because I know that if I vote against it then there will be a sound byte that I support manufacturing meth. And I don’t want to hear that in my next election. But the thing that concerns me is the part about possessing a cold medication if in fact you’ve ever been convicted of manufacturing, which means that there is no getting beyond , straightening up your life or doing any of that. To me it equates to if youever get caught driving under the influence, you should never ever be caught with alcohol again. I mean it’s the same thing. It’s addictive also And so is smoking and some of the other ugly things we do. But I am going to vote for it even though I still have a question and I still think that it goes a little bit too far with people being, I guess, charged with a felony if they have possession of a legal cold medication based on the fact of something that happened in their previous; and I am not saying and I certainly don’t think that everyone that has manufactured meth will alwaysgo back to manufacturing. I don’t necessarily think that’s the truth. Thank you. [Speaker Changes] for the discussion, for the debate. If not the question before the house is the passage of house bill 29 on its 2nd reading. All in favor vote Aye. All opposed, vote No. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk ?? machine record the vote. 116 having voted the affirmative and 1 in the negative. House bill 29 has passed its 2nd reading without objection will be read a third time. [Speaker Changes] ?? North Carolina. [Speaker Changes] for the discussion for the debate. If not the question before the house is the passage of house bill 29 on its 3rd reading. Representative Steinberg, did you have a…came on just before I called. The chair apologizes. The question before the house is house bill 29 on its

00:00 third reading all in favor will say aye. aye. all opposed say no..the ayes have it house bill 29 has passed its third reading and will be sent to the senate ladies and gentlemen of the house the chair was biting its nails on that last vote because if there had been objection to third reading we would have a reason to be in session tomorrow but because we don't have any bill that carries over tomorrow we will have a skeleton session tomorrow at eleven there will be no votes and the chair is consulting with the committee chairs and others of chairs aware of an event we believe that the democratic [??] house on Monday there was a resolution countered for Monday we understand from the members in the senate and the house members that can be carried over so Monday will also be a skeleton session there will be no votes taken tomorrow or on Monday chair would also like to remind everybody that on Tuesday February 26 in room 643 immediately after session there will be a required training ethics training according to general statute 138A-14C that is [??] your first opportunity to complete your mandatory training the other one March the 5th that's the makeup session it'll also be in room 643 immediately after session again tomorrow will be a skeleton session no votes Monday will be a skeleton session no votes Tuesday we will meet at 2 pm and just to please note for those of you who do intend to be on the skeleton session on Monday that will be at 6 pm there's no need for you to be there however unless you have nothing better to do notices and announcements the clerk will read. the house committee on appropriations subcommittee on transportation meet tomorrow at 8:30 in room 1228/1327 of the legislative [??]. representative Warren please state your purpose. for announcement. the gentleman's recognized for an announcement. Mr speaker tomorrow at 10 am the government committee will meet in room 643 in the [??]. representative Bill Brawley please state your purpose. an announcement. the gentleman's recognized for an announcement. house committee on transportation will meet in room 643 at 12 of noon next Tuesday but since we won't be here between now and then I better announce today. representative Stevens please state your purpose. for an announcement. lady's recognized. members of the house for those of you who missed the private meeting that we had last week to show the application of the new lean law that was passed last term we will have a demonstration tomorrow it really only takes about ten minutes it'll be at 10 o'clock in room 424 any of you who are concerned from a building perspective a supplier perspective a real state law perspective a banking perspective please come you'll find it to be very informative. further notices and announcements..representative Moore is recognized. alright Mr speaker I move subject to re-referral of bills and resolutions that the house do now adjourn to reconvene on February the 21st at eleven o'clock am. representative Moore moves seconded by representative Howard subject to re-referral bills and resolutions that the house will now adjourn to reconvene on Thursday February 21st at eleven am all in favor say aye. aye. all opposed say no the ayes have it the house stays adjourned. 03:50