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Senate | May 15, 2013 | Chamber | Session

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The Senate will come to order. Sergeant-at-Arms will close the doors. Members will go to their seats. Members and guests of the gallery will please silence all electronic devices. Leading the Senate in prayer is the Reverend Peter Milner, Senate Chaplain. All members and guests in the gallery will please stand. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Let’s pray. Oh God who knows how often we sin against you with our tongues. Keep us free from all untrue and unkind words. Consecrate our speech to your service. Keep us often silent that our hearts may speak to you, may listen for your voice. In Jesus Christ, Amen. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senators with leave of absences granted today, Senator Jenkins and Senator Graham. Upon the motion of Senator Barringer, Harrington, Randleman, and Wade, the chair is happy to extend courtesies of the gallery to the members of the North Carolina Federation of Republican Women, including Zan Bunn, the incoming president, and Dena Barnes immediate past president who served with distinction for four years. Ladies thank you for being here with us. Please stand and be recognized. Reports of standing committees. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. President. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Rucho, for what purpose do you rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] To send forward a finance committee report. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Rucho you can send forward your committee report. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Rucho from the finance committee submits for passage Senate Bill 236 committee substitute number one. Counties Responsible for School Construction, favorable. Senator 151 committee substitute number one. Coastal Policy Reform Act of 2013, favorable as amended. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senate Bill 236, calendar. Senate Bill 151, calendar. Senators we’re going to move right into the calendar for today. Starting with local bills second reading roll call bill. Senate Bill 269. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senate Bill 269, Salisbury/Deannex Rowan City Airport Property. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Brock is recognized. Is there any further discussion or debate? Hearing none, the question before the Senate is the passage of Senate Bill 269 on its second reading. All in favor vote aye, all opposed vote no. Five seconds will be allowed for the voting. The clerk will record the vote. Wade, aye. Rabin, aye. Anderson, aye. Barefoot, aye. Davis, aye. McKissick, aye. Nesbitt, aye. Kinnaird, aye. Park, aye. 44 having voted in the affirmative and 1 in the negative, Senate Bill 269 passes on its second reading and will remain on the calendar. Senators we have three local bills on the calendar. I would like to block vote those, if there is no objection. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. President. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Apodaca, for what purpose do you rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Need to move Senate Bill 297 to the end of the calendar.They’re preparing an amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Without objection, so ordered. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. President, an announcement out of order please. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Apodaca has the floor for an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. President. Members, I’d like to encourage everyone, as we go down the path this afternoon of all the bills we got to handle, to please stay as close to your seat as possible. Pay attention so we don’t have to add ten or fifteen after we take one. Thank you.

Senators, without objection we'll block vote the first two local bills, Senate Bill 226 and Senate Bill 257. Senate Bil 226 and Senate Bill 257 the clerk will read. [CHANGE SPEAKERS] Senate Bill 226, 22nd Senatorial District local act 1. Senate Bill 257 Alamance/Guilford County Boundary. [CHANGE SPEAKERS] Do we have any discussion or debate? Hearing none. The question before the Senate is the passage of Senate Bill 226 and Senate Bill 257 on their second reading. All in favor will say aye, opposed no. The ayes have it. Senate Bill 226 and Senate Bill 257 pass their second reading without objection, will be read a third time. [CHANGE SPEAKERS] North Carolina General Assembly enacts. [CHANGE SPEAKERS] Any discussion or debate? Senator Tillman, for what purpose do you rise? [CHANGE SPEAKERS] Mister President, I believe I missed the vote on 269. Would you check to see if you had me recorded as voting? [CHANGE SPEAKERS] I don't think we did, Senator. We do not. Have you recorded, Senator? [CHANGE SPEAKERS] Aye [CHANGE SPEAKERS] Aye, Tillman. 45 to 1. Is there any further discussion or debate? Hearing none. The question before the Senate is the passage of Senate Bill 226 and Senate Bill 257 on their third reading. All in favor will say aye, opposed no. The ayes have it. Senate Bill 226 and Senate Bill 257 passed their third reading and will be sent to the House. Moving on to public bill second reading roll call bill. Senate Bill 103. Clerk will read. [CHANGE SPEAKERS] Senate Bill 103 Amend Assessments For Infrastructure Needs. [CHANGE SPEAKERS] Senator Hartsell is recognized to explain the bill. [CHANGE SPEAKERS] Thank you Mister President and members of the Senate. 103 actually deals with two matters involving special assessment bonds which are a new form of financing that's voluntary on the part of folks in a district that is set up for specific purposes by city or county. One, it extends the sunset by two years. The second is ?? specifically defines what constitutes the majority of the property owners and what constitutes two thirds vote or at least assessment or agreement by the remaining member of all the folks in the district. I would commend it to you. [CHANGE SPEAKERS] Any further discussion or debate? Hearing none. The question before the Senate is the passage of the committee substitute to Senate Bill on it's second reading. All in favor will vote aye, opposed will vote no. Five seconds will be allowed for the voting. The clerk will record the vote. 48 having voted in the affirmative and 0 in the negative. Committee substitute to Senate Bill 103 passes it's second reading and will remain on the calendar. Senate Bill 523 the clerk will read. [CHANGE SPEAKERS] Senate Bill 523 Returns W/Refunds Filed Late Penalty. [CHANGE SPEAKERS] Senator Rucho is recognized to explain the bill. [CHANGE SPEAKERS] Thank you Mister President and members of the Senate. Senate Bill 523 Late Filing Penalty is an effort for us to make a clarification for the Department of Revenue in how to handle what is a failure to file penalty which is set at one hundred dollars. What it does do is it eliminates any penalty for someone that has failed to file but is also due a refund. So we've clarified that issue completely and the Department of Revenue supports this and we had a good discussion during the Finance Committee and I urge that you support this bill. [CHANGE SPEAKERS] Do we have any discussion or debate? [CHANGE SPEAKERS] Mister President [CHANGE SPEAKERS] Senator Clodfelter, for what purpose do you rise? [CHANGE SPEAKERS] To speak on the bill. [CHANGE SPEAKERS] Senator Clodfelter has the floor to speak on the bill. [CHANGE SPEAKERS] Thank you Mister President. First off, I want to say that I think as the saying goes I appreciate the fact that this is not Senator Rucho's dog. He's just agreed to walk it for the Department of Revenue. So I have no quarrel with him really. In fact, I very much appreciate how far he's been able to move the department on this bill since the original version of the bill. And so I thank him for that and I think he has been very mindful of the issue that I'm going to address in my remarks. For many, many years it has been the longstanding practice of the Department of Revenue not to penalize a taxpayer who files a late income tax return if that return shows no tax due to the state or shows a refund due for the state if you think about it. That's a taxpayer. The states have their money

...has had more than the state's been entitled to, all throughout the time period, and what's happened here is that the taxpayer's just late asking for his or her own money back on a refund claim, and so the policy has been, we won't impose a late filing penalty. Now if you're late, you owe tax, you get penalized for late filing and also for nonpayment of the tax, and I respect that; I think that's fine. But the practice that the department has followed, I think, when they discovered the new temp system they're going to roll out this fall, which is going to be a great improvement in tax administration, that maybe the law that's currently on the books was not fully consistent with the practice that they had followed. Now the practice that they had been following was exactly the same as what the Internal Revenue Service follows with federal taxes. You have a federal tax return, and you're a day late or so in filing it, and but you're due a refund. You don't pay a late filing penalty the IRS, and North Carolina was doing essentially the same thing as the IRS was doing. I actually think that's good practice. I think it sort of recognizes the sort of realities of what happens, and if folks are a little slow getting their own money back, that just means the state gets the use of their money for a longer period of time. But we shouldn't penalize them for that, and that's been the practice. There are taxes, and again, I think Senator Rucho's addressed this in the bill, and I agree with him on this part of the bill. There are taxes where the department really needs to know very soon after the deadline exactly what the filed tax collection's going to be because they have to make distributions of that tax to other people. They have to distribute sales tax back to local governments, they have to distribute bear and wine excise tax back to local governments. There are other from which they make distributions, and they really do need people to get their returns in on time. But for an individual personal income tax, no harm, really for the state, no harm, really if the return is late. Again, a refund is due, it's the taxpayer's money. We've been holding it. And so I really wish we would preserve and clarify the law. I agree with Senator Rucho, we've got to clarify the law, so the department knows exactly what the rule is. i wish, though, we wouldn't put the penalty on the taxpayer. And again, I appreciate the fact that he's gotten it down to a hundred bucks. It's not really so much the money here, the amount of money. It is sort of the principle of the thing. You know, we have rules. We'll have to follow the rules. I understand that. But occasionally folks expect us to use a little common sense in how we administer the rules and maybe not to be so really insistent on every i and every t when it comes to something like this. I think folks would be a little bit offended if they thought we were penalizing them for not getting their own refund back in time. So I wish what we would do with the bill is eliminate the penalty on the individual income tax returns where there is a refund shown due on the return. I agree with Senator Rucho on all the rest of the bill, and again I think him for kicking the department along as far as he's kicked them. I'd like to go a little bit further, and for that reason I can't support the bill in the form in which it currently stands. The President Pro Tempore: Is there any further discussion or debate? Hearing none, the question before the Senate is the passage of the committee substitute to Senate Bill 523 on a second reading. All in favor will vote aye; opposed will vote no. Five seconds will be allowed for the vote. The Clerk will record the vote. 29 having voted in the affirmative and 19 in the negative, the committee substitute to Senate Bill 523 passes its second reading and will remain on the calendar. Senate Bill 85. The Clerk will read. Clerk: Senate Bill 85. Ordinance first reading vote... Senator Clodfelter is recognized to explain the bill. Sen. Clodfelter: Yes, sir, Mr. President. This is a really technical subject, and I know you don't want to hear a lot about it. This is the mechanics of the process for the adoption of local government ordinances. This bill passed this chamber in the last session 49 to nothing, with no controversy. It got caught up at the end of the House session. We were going to try to get it over there again and see. It really just clarifies the mechanisms for taking votes on an ordinance. Right now, if you vote on an ordinance at the first meeting, you have to vote it in unanimously or else you have to vote on it a second time at a subsequent meeting. What the bill does is say that if you have had a public hearing on that ordinance and people had a chance to see it, gotten notice of it, and talk about it, you can adopt it in the meeting after the public hearing by a majority vote. You don't have to vote twice after you've had a public hearing. Again, it was non-controversial; there was no objection to the bill from the league or the association of county commissioners. I ask for your support.

?? hearing none, the question before the Senate is the passage of Senate Bill 85 on it's second reading. All in favor will vote aye, opposed will vote no. Five seconds will be allowed for the voting. Clerk will record the vote. Newton [SPEAKER CHANGES] aye [SPEAKER CHANGES] 48 having voted in the affirmative and 0 in the negative. Senate Bill 85 passes it's second reading without objection. Will be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] North Carolina ?? Assembly Acts [SPEAKER CHANGES] Any further discussion or debate? Hearing none, the question before the Senate is the passage of Senate Bill 85 on its third reading. All in favor will say aye, opposed no. The ayes have it. Senate Bill 85 passes it's third reading and will be sent to the House. Senate Bill 112. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senate Bill 112 Amend environmental laws 2013 [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Jackson is recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. President and my fellow members of the Senate. This is a lengthy bill but I will try to go through it very quickly in light of our calendar. Parts I and II are purely technical and are an ERC recommendation. Part III is a request from DEMA and part of their efforts to fast track certain permits. Part IV is also another technical change sent over by DEMA. This makes technical corrections that more accurately reflect protected and endangered species safeguards. Part V is just a word change from anti venom when it comes to dangerous snakes and so forth. Part VB amends the statute governing the investigation of suspected violations, seizures and disposition of reptiles. In order words it would require them to consultant with the zoo and with DEMA before law enforcement officers try and collect a dangerous, venomous reptile. Not a bad idea. Part VI amends the Administrative Procedure Act to provide the Wildlife Resource Commission with temporary rule making authority for manner of take. They currently have rule making authority but this is just for manner of take. Part VII amends the definition of the term ?? as it pertains to storm water management. Part VIII provides underground storage tanks and systems installed after January 1, 1991 and prior to April 1, 2001 are not required to comply with well setback requirements. This is a DEMA request because the underground storage tanks and systems installed after April 1, 2011 already have the requirement for the secondary setback. Part IX amends the rules of the North Carolina administration code that pertain to open burning or land clearing or right-of-way maintenance. We are working with DEMA to help change the rules in accordance with Secretary ?? goal of lessening the permitting process when applicable. Part X exempts ponds that are constructed and used for agriculture from riparian buffers. This would not affect any riparian buffer rules only as it pertains to agriculture uses and farm ponds. Part XI amends the rules also to provide for reduced flow alternatives to daily flow rates when designed for waste water systems and this section would exempt proposed waste water systems from complying with the daily flow rate or design. There are numerous options out there for engineers to use and this allows them to do so. Part XI ?? provides that waste water systems with a daily flow of less than 3,000 per day are not required to obtain state level review for the system. This just adds clarification because anything over 3,000 is already regulated. Part XII amends the continuing education requirements for certified well contractors so they can get their credits in a three year period instead of a one year period but they will get the same amount of credits. Part XIII directs the Department of Transportation to adopt rules for selective pruning within highways right-of-ways for vegetation which obstructs nebulous views of property that involves agri-tourism. Part XIV prohibits public entities from purchasing or acquiring ownership in real property with known contamination without the approval of the governor and the Council of State. In order words the municipality or county can't buy a piece of property and it be contaminated, thinking that the state tax payers are going to clean it up. This sort of corrects that assumption. Part XV prohibits the local government from impeding the storage retention or use of non-hazardous, recycled material, including asphalt pavement, wrap or roof shingles in properly zoned storage facilities with regulation of the height of recycled material stockpiles. There is some concern with this section and I

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Speaker: Senator Brown I'm trying to follow the path of this bill understanding what is commerce then it went to rules is what I'm seeing it didn't went through judiciary committee did it, Speaker Changes: It did not, Speaker Changes: In particular reason, Speaker Changes: Mr.President, Speaker Changes: Senator orthodox for what purpose you ask Speaker Chnages: Let senator brown's question ?? Speaker Changes: We have plenty of warriors on rule committee and we got plenty of legal answers on a ?? that was my decision on a stand by Speaker Changes: Further discussion and debate, Speaker Changes: Mr president, Speaker Changes: Senator ?? for what purpose you ask, Speaker Changes: To speak second time, Speaker Changes: Senator ?? has the floor to speak second time Speaker Changes: Thank you Mr.President a comment to the comments what I'm trying to start with the whole purpose of the ten objections was that we are supposed to look at him that's the problem here we got the business people's and lawyers ?? last year i can ?? and the side i would trust senator brown senator over here to sit down and go through and put in this bill what is to be stopped and if they came back and agreed on it would vote for it the problem is you've ?? of good fans that people's need on both sides i think what i heard was it 's helping both sides,some o these were saving money for the both sides and saving system we all wanted to do that it wouldn't talk that senator orthodox we have laid people's on J committees too and that's what j committees for is to sit down and look at bills trying to figure out in detail what they do what's good and what's bad and may be you got time to go to j committee surely take an hour if somebody sit on roads and trying to figure out which one is ?? if nothing else happen i object third reading to see i don't work, Speaker Changes: Mr.President, Speaker Changes: Senator orthodox for what purpose you ask Speaker Changes: To speak on the bill for the second time, Speaker Changes: Senator orthodox has the floor for the second time, Speaker Changes: We amendment this bill on behalf of some of our loyal buddies and took out the exact same thing ?? is saying should be in the bill now we cant have it both ways let' s just move on with this enough is enough , Speaker Changes: Mr.President Speaker Changes: Senator Brian for what purpose you ask, Speaker Changes: It just think to speak on the bill after my question was answered senator Brian you have the floor to speak on the bill, Speaker Changes: I just wanted to say i do join senator Daniel with some concerned about the bill to vote against some of the reason he has indicated and also on this and say that i served on the industrial commission and also i do have some process and also some lawyers and some people come at to see us to ?? qualities in offer to help in these process so thank you very much, Speaker Changes: Thank you for the discussion and debate, Speaker Changes: Senator ?? for what purpose you ask, Speaker Changes: To speak briefly to the bill, Speaker Changes: Senator ?? has the floor to speak to the bill Speaker Changes: Thank you Mr.President Speaker Changes: Senator brown i appreciate to the committee when you agreed to amend the bill i thought that was certainly improvement and raise some of the questions in the committee and senator orthodox i appreciate ?? having paid the bill has a business person who pays ?? on the check and pays ?? i certainly appreciate what you have to say and and i agree that sincerely it is an attorney who defended both employers and employees in the conference setting, Speaker Changes: I think senator Daniel has raised significant concern i think to folks continuously move forward to think about one of the think i like for the business people to hear is that I'm not sure when you heard it i said was some of these rules are going to make it cheaper for the bill for the business people because it's expertise process and it prevents your business lawyers calling by the hour i thin that was forth considering because i did note the person who was there speaking on behalf of this bill and great length which was curious to me right from the beginning was a defense lawyer and I'm having done both sides of it and understanding how the clock works i do think that's something a body we gotta consider now with ?? I'm gonna support the bill because,

...was amended in committee in a way that makes it more favorable. I just hope that as a body that we’ll take a deep breath on this when it comes back to us again. And that we’ll work hard to make sure we have balanced it. Because what we do want to do is make sure that we keep the costs down and we take care of these employees as we’re supposed to do under this body of law. I appreciate what’s been said, and I appreciate the efforts that’s been done by all parties. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Any further discussion or further debate? Hearing none, the question before the Senate is the passage of the Committee Substitute for Senate Bill 174. On its second reading. All in favor vote aye, opposed vote no. Five seconds will be allowed for the voting. The clerk will record the vote. Thirty-four having voted in the affirmative, and 14 in the negative, the Committee Substitute to Senate Bill 174 passes its second reading. Without objection… [SPEAKER CHANGES] Objection. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Nesbitt objects to the third reading. It’ll be placed on the calendar. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senate Bill 182, the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senate Bill 182, limit appeals to Superior Court. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Brunstetter’s recognized to explain the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. President. Members this bill comes from an ongoing effort with AOC, the Conference of DA, the school of government, among others, to reduce the court workload in Superior Court and for the DAs. Particularly in view of the limited resources we’ve had to allocate lately. The primary sections of the bill are Section 2, which changes current law so that if a defendant waives a revocation hearing at the district court level, including the finding of a violation, probation, activation of sentence or imposition of special probation, that may not be appealed to the Superior Court. So that’s in the event of a waiver. I’m going to go back to Section 3 in a minute because I have an amendment for that. Sections 4, 5, and 6, which came out of a reclassification impact study and are based upon recommendations from Indigent Defense Services, take a variety of fairly low level misdemeanors and make them infractions. Things such as failure to carry a valid driver’s license while driving a motor vehicle. I’m going to go back to Section 3, and Mr. President I’d like to send forward an amendment, and I believe it’s on the dashboard. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Brunstetter moves to amend the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Brunstetter’s recognized to explain the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you members. When we originally prepared the bill, what this had done was repeal GS15A-133. This is the section in the law where if somebody files an appeal they cannot get a sentence that is more severe than they received originally. And it led to a series of frivolous appeals because there was really no incentive for somebody not to keep appealing and appealing and appealing. However, we did receive some good advice from DAs Conference and from Advocates for Justice on another way to approach this. And that’s what we have done. In essence, we’re not going to change current law unless the defendant succeeds in, excuse me, unless the defendant had pleaded guilty originally, and was trying to seek to have that vacated. So I think this amendment will work a little bit better. As I said it’s supported by both the Advocates for Justice and DAs agreeing on this particular amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Is there any discussion or debate? Hearing none, the question before the Senate is the passage of the Amendment 1. All in favor vote aye, opposed vote no. Five seconds will be allowed for the voting. The clerk will record the vote. Forty-eight having voted in the affirmative and zero in the negative, Amendment 1 is adopted. The bill as amended is back before the body. Senator Brunstetter’s recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Just ask for member support. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Is there any further discussion or debate? Hearing none, the question before the Senate is the passage of the Committee Substitute to Senate Bill 182 as amended on its second reading. All in favor vote aye, opposed vote no. Five seconds will be allowed for the voting, and the clerk will record the vote. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Woodard? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Forty-eight having voted in the affirmative and zero in the negative, the Committee Substitute to Senate Bill 182 as amended passes its second reading. Without objection, it’ll be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] North Carolina General Assembly enact. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion or debate? Hearing none, the question before the Senate is the passage of the Committee Substitute to Senate Bill 182 as amended on its third reading. All in favor say aye, opposed no. The ayes have it. Committee Substitute to Senate Bill 182 as amended passes its third reading. The amendment will be engrossed and will be sent to the house. Senate Bill 210, the clerk will read.

Bill 210, Authorize Chief Magistrates. [SPEAKER CHANGES]. Senator Brunstetter is recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES]. Thank you, Mr. President. Members, this bill simply allows the Chief District Court Judge, at his option to designate a Chief Magistrate. This provision has passed this chamber a number of times and has gotten mixed up over at the House because it was tacked on, along with a number of other provisions. So I'd ask for your support. [SPEAKER CHANGES]. Is there any discussion or debate? Hearing none, the question before the Senate is the passage of Senate Bill 210 on its second reading. All in favor will vote aye. Opposed will vote no. Five seconds will be allowed for voting, and the clerk will record the vote. 48 having voted in the affirmative, and zero in the negative. Senate Bill 210 passes its second reading. Without objection it'll be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES]. North Carolina General Assembly enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES]. Is there any further discussion or debate? Hearing none, the question before the Senate is the passage of Senate Bill 210 on its third reading. All in favor will say aye. Opposed, no. The ayes have it. Senate Bill 210 passes its third reading, and it will be sent to the House. Senate Bill 211. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES]. Senate Bill 211, Cities Public Nuisance Notice. [SPEAKER CHANGES]. Senator Parmon is recognized to explain the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES]. Thank you, Mr. President, and Members. Currently, under current law, notice for chronic violators notice is required by certified mail. Senate Bill 211 would allow certified, registered, and regular U.S. mail plus posting to ensure proper notice to chronic violators. I ask for your support. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES]. Is there any discussion or debate? Hearing none, the question before the Senate is the passage of Senate Bill 211 on its second reading. All in favor will vote aye. Opposed will vote no. Five seconds will be allowed for voting. The clerk will record the vote. Ford, aye. McKissick, aye. Nesbitt, aye. Rabin, Rabin, aye. 48 having voted in the affirmative, and zero in the negative. Senate Bill 211 passes its second reading. Without objection, it'll be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES]. North Carolina General Assembly enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES]. Any further discussion or debate? Hearing none, the question before the Senate is the passage of Senate Bill 211 on its third reading. All in favor will say aye. Opposed, no. The ayes have it. Senate Bill 211 passes its third reading, and it will be sent to the House. Senate Bill 248. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES]. Mr. President. [SPEAKER CHANGES]. Senator Apodaca, for what purpose do you rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES]. Motion, please. [SPEAKER CHANGES]. Senator Apodaca has the floor for his motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES]. Mr. President, Senate Bill 248 is our next bill. We were reviewing that bill and it needs to make a pass through insurance, because it does have some of those ramifications and it is subject to crossover because it has the fee. So I move that it be removed from today's calendar, re-refer to Committee on insurance. [SPEAKER CHANGES]. Without objection, so ordered. [SPEAKER CHANGES]. Thank you, Mr. President. A couple more motions while I'm standing, please. Senate Bill 199, Electric Membership Co-ops, currently on the calendar for May 21st, please remove from the calendar and re-refer to the Committee on rules. [SPEAKER CHANGES]. Without objection, so ordered. [SPEAKER CHANGES]. Thank you, Mr. President. [SPEAKER CHANGES]. Senate Bill 294, the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES]. Senate Bill 294, Allow Use of DOT Stormwater BMPs. [SPEAKER CHANGES]. Senator Parmon is recognized to explain the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES]. Thank you, Mr. President and Members. This is a bill that was asked for by the City of Winston-Salem originally, and then became a public bill. And what it's, it's an act to allow entities regulated under Phase II of the National Pollutant Discharge System to utilize the best practices of DOT for projects that will turned over to the state when completed. DOT was aware of the bill and there was no opposition. I ask for your support, please. [SPEAKER CHANGES]. Is there any discussion or debate? Hearing none, the question before the Senate is the passage of the Committee Substitute to Senate Bill 294 on its second reading. All in favor will vote aye. Opposed will vote no. Five seconds will be allowed for voting. The clerk will record the vote. Apodaca, aye. Rabin, Rabin, aye. Tillman, aye. 47 having voted in the affirmative, and 1 in the negative. Committee Substitute to Senate Bill 294 passes its second reading. Without objection, it'll be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES]. North Carolina General Assembly enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES]. Any discussion or debate? Hearing none, the question before the Senate is the passage of the Committee Substitute to Senate Bill 294 on its third reading. All in favor will say aye. Opposed, no. The ayes have it. Committee Substitute to Senate Bill 294 passes its third reading, and it will be sent to the House. Senate Bill 406, the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES]. Senate Bill 406, Repeal Laws Denied Section 5 Preclearance. [SPEAKER CHANGES]. Senator Brunstetter is recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES]. Thank you,

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These are a group of business people who employ about 4,600 people in the State and they bring in an average tax revenue to the State of about 124 million dollars a year. Most of you have these type folks in your community. Those that are viable recyclers. In 2012, we re-wrote the laws governing medical recycling, and in that the medical recycling industry supported many of the changes in 2012, including those requiring recyclers be permitted, operate only at fixed locations and that law enforcement could place merchandise or materials on hold if they believe they were stolen. All these they supported. They worked alongside the power companies who were being hit for copper theft at their substations, and since the passage of the law in 2012 there has been some confusion in different jurisdictions about how law enforcement interprets the law, so, they came back to use working with the power companies and got all the parties in line and made some clarifying changes. What they did was clarify the definition of a cash card system. It also clarified the definition of copper and how copper was supposed to be paid for just to make sure that that was done. I know of no opposition other than probably one person in chamber that wishes to address this, Senator Bryant. She and I have talked about it extensively. So, I would ask for your support of Senate Bill 583. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Senator Bryant. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: I will be glad to answer any questions. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Senator Bryant what is the purpose of your rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Senator Bryant has the floor to speak on the Bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: I don't oppose the Bill Senator Tucker. I think that you've done a good job on this Bill. There's just one point that's outstanding on this copper issue that I want to make sure we are aware of in the Chamber. If you'll notice in the Bill it does clarify the definition of copper, which defines it separately, which is a non-ferrous metal, but if you also go down in the Bill you will notice that copper is also a part of the non-ferrous metals. Now, why does that matter? At your desk is another part of the Statute GS66-425 and this is where Senator Tillman told me. He said "Senator Bryant you need to tell me when you're talking about facts and when you're giving me your opinion". So, this is facts Senator Tillman. Don't turn me off yet. If you look at this statue it said - it was not drafted in the best format - but it says no non-ferrous metal purchases shall enter into a cash transaction for the purchase of copper, and that was our goal in the work that was done last year in last session to eliminate cash for the purpose of copper in any format by card, by any manner whatsoever. Then you go on to say no, non-ferrous metal shall purchase any non-ferrous metal property, which includes copper, for cash consideration greater than 100 dollars. Well, that's irrelevant to copper because you can't have cash for copper. Then it goes on to say any payment in excess of 100 dollars per transaction shall be made by check, money, order or cash card system. Well, that doesn't apply to copper because you can't get cash for copper and as far as we were concerned when we worked on this last time that included a cash card system. And it also says there can be no more than one case purchase per day for a non-ferrous metal, which applies across the board. So, I'm saying all this to say when you look at this statute it is murky about the fact that you cannot do cash for copper. There is concern in the community that people will think you can give an ATM card for copper and it has happened in a situation with a constituent of mine whose son has a drug problem, took copper, and he was following him and he went to the recycler, got a cash card and because he could get the cash card was able to move past them. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Mr. President. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Senator Bryant go ahead and wrap up here please. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Okay. So my point is, and I want to follow up with a question to Senator Tucker, which is, is it your position as the metal dealers that it is the law that you cannot give cash for copper, including a cash card. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Senator Tucker do you yield for the question? [SPEAKER CHANGES]: I do Mr. President.

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him, which I let the developers to economic development in disadvantaged areas of the city and that this was asked by the city Council unanimously witness present. I like the second amendment supporter, Minnesota or great show, and most of Mandeville 's undergarments recognize explain MM. [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you. I have been mimicked as is allowed the city to establish goals of women and minority participation and to ensure that it took the efforts that don't meet that goal. I ask for your support, your discussion of their very non corrosive, was that as the passage of amendment one: favourable." no five seconds throughout the voting program for the forty eight, having voted affirmative and zero negative amendment one is adopted the bill as amended, is back before the body to Department darkness, and she had [SPEAKER CHANGES] just asked that I support up the chain found dyspepsia. thank you. as a result, University during the question for the body is the passage of Senate Bill two ninety seven on a second reading on favourite. say hi is no guys have a single tonight. seven passes A without objection or other time but had no shame in a discussion of a hearing on possible as soon as it passes go through ninety seven on its third reading all fables, AI was no VI status and ability ninety seven passes third rating and will be sent to the house 's presence in the doctor foreclosure us. I think were ready to go also. one twelve think they worked out the amendment out of who objected that want to remove it. the for Senate Bill S Preston Senator Waverly Drive reported on the last item on. be sure got reported this in ways both recorded it on his in the video recorded as a guest sin at one twelve and seven at twenty thirteenth Senator Jackson's recognized regulars present members as soon as that is unlimited, and we can explain the design centre for his recognized something study design for your member 's present owner of a doctoral program at the centre of our test for one order is presently someone permitted the injection or third reading before we move forward with the remove the objections without reading such as him when we remove your direction cannot be Senator Jackson got out of movie objects centre fielders in Jackson, third rating centre fold as recognized. explain MM, but was sentenced. secondly, and reason in therefore Domenico centre fold recognizes fundamental things. fortunately, some assignment with the blessing of the sponsor on the door to what minute. on page eleven, one twelve, I read riding the line to read recycled materials on stockpiles, except when such facilities are located within two hundred yards of a residential district. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I commend him and to three. discussion and the question presented is the passage of amendment one. all favourable. I oppose about no five seconds beloved for the voting clerk record about Raven Raven Armen Armin, I recommend I really don't vote in the affirmative, and zero in the negative minimum one is adopted the bill as amended back before the bodies ready for a discussion of a air not the question for the Senate is not as a committee substitute Senate Bill one twelve, as amended, on its third reading all unfavorable both high. no five seconds throughout the veteran club record for

Meredith, Bingham, aye, aye. 48 having voted in the affirmative and zero in the negative, committee substitute to Senate Bill 112, as amended, passes its third reading. The Amendment will be engrossed and it will be sent to the House. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. President. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Apodaca, for what purpose do you rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Apodaca has the floor for an announcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. President. Members, you have just received the supplemental calendar to add on all the bills for this afternoon, from now going forward. Senator Rucho has indicated that he needs a powder room break for about 10 minutes. Let’s do this. We’ll come back here at 3:45 and get moving. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. President. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Nesbitt, for what purpose do you rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Could we extend that maybe another five minutes so we can caucus and go over this while he’s taking a powder room break? [SPEAKER CHANGES] No, 3:45 is a good time. Thank you, Mr. President. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senate will stand in recess until 3:45. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The Democrats will caucus right now.

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Senate will come to order. Sargent at Arms close doors, members go to their seats. Members and guests in gallery please silence all electronic devices. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. President? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Soucek for the purpose ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I would like to be recorded as an aye on Senate Bill 269 taken earlier today. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senate Bill 269, Soucek aye. 46 to 1 final vote. Senator Apodaca for the purpose ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. President I believe the clerk mentioned we have a problem with 297 that we did earlier and we need to put it on the vote. I guess we should wait until the sponsor gets here. We will put it on the end of the calendar. Is that alright? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Without objection so ordered. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Also Mr. president, Senate Bill 151, Coastal Policy Reform Act, need to move it to the next, let's make it the next to the last bill on today's calendar [SPEAKER CHANGES] Without objection so ordered. [SPEAKER CHANGES] and Mr. President, if we may, Senate Bill 475 PEO Act amendments, I move that it be brought before us for immediate consideration. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Without objection so ordered. Senate Bill 475, Clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senate Bill 475 PEO Act amendments. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Meredith is recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. President, Member of the Senate. I do have an amendment I would like to send forward. [SPEAKER CHANGES] You can send forward your amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Meredith moved to amend the bill

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Electronic vote on that, so we're going to revote Senate Bill 297. Senate Bill 297. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senate Bill 297. Winston-Salem/Local Development. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Is there any discussion or debate? Hearing none, the question for the Senate is the passage of Senate Bill 297 on a second reading. All in favor vote aye. Opposed will vote no. Five seconds will be elapsed with the voting. The clerk will record the vote. 46 having voted in the affirmative and zero in the negative, Senate Bill 297 passes a second reading without objection to be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] North Carolina ?? Act. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Is there any discussion or debate? Hearing none, the question for the Senate is the passage of Senate Bill 297 on its third reading. All in favor will say aye. Opposed no. The ayes have it. Senate Bill 297 passes its third reading and will be sent to the House. The amendment will be engrossed, so it will be sent to the House. We have another local bill, Senate Bill 236. Clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senate Bill 236. County is responsible for school construction. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Hunt is recognized to explain the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. President. Senate Bill 236 came to us from the North Carolina Association of County Commissioners. It would allow counties to be responsible for the construction, improvement, ownership, and acquisition of public school property. It is a local bill to apply to the following counties: Beaufort, Dare, Davie, Guilford, Harnett, Lee, Rockingham, Rowan, and Wake. And I believe Senator Hartsell has the amendment. Do you want to do that at this point? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Hartsell, for what purpose do you rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] To put forward an amendment, Mr. President. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The amendment is coming up on the dashboard. Clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Hartsell moves to amend the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Hartsell is recognized to explain the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. President, members of the Senate. In the committee, I had submitted an amendment that omitted or at least took the Kannapolis system out of it the Rowan area. There was an error in that amendment. We just need to clarify that what this amendment does is spell it out more specifically. I would commend it to you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Is there any discussion or debate? Hearing none, the question for the Senate is the passage of Amendment 1. All in favor say aye, opposed will vote no. Five seconds will be allowed to record the vote, and clerk will report the vote. Woodard? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Hise. Berger, aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. President, I'd like the change my vote to aye, please. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Walters, aye. 47 having voted in the affirmative and zero in the negative, Amendment 1 is adopted. The bill, as amended, is back before the body. Is there any discussion or debate? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. President. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Stein, for what purpose do you rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Stein has the floor to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. President, members of the Senate. School buildings are part of the educational process. The default should be that the construction and maintenance should be left to the school board unless there's some reason not to. What's the appropriate size of the school? What the right location for the school? What programs are going to be offered at the school? What facilities need to be shaped at that school to further the educational mission of the local education agency, the LEA, the school system. So, they should have that control unless there's some reason they shouldn't. I want to talk to you all about Wake County, because, frankly, this is what this bill is all about. It's targeting the Wake County School Board, just like the redistricting bill we had a couple weeks ago. There have been 104 major construction projects in Wake County in the last 12, 13 years. Most of them were new construction, because we're building six, seven schools a year, but also some major renovations. In that time from the last major bond referendum that was run at Wake County, the projects came in at $104 million under budget. That was savings achieved by the Wake County school construction office. In the last five years, they purchased 16 new parcels to build new schools down the road and achieved the acquisition at six million below appraised value. Wake County Public School System has won dozens of awards for construction and design of its school facilities. Wake County has a AAA bond rating. The school system controls three times the amount of assets as does the county.

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That are you? I don't know about you and your delegations from the counties or areas that you represent, but sadly enough that has totally dissipated in Wake County. So that we talk among ourselves about things as a chamber would have us do that affect a region. I told you several weeks ago that because of this process, this legislature, meddling not on your own free will of course, in the Wake County affairs, you're probably gonna help ensure the failing of a billion dollar bond issue that they're trying to put on the ballot this fall. Now, people can say that it's not gonna happen, but I will assure you that the resistance to doing anything given the climate that we're operating in is increasing exponentially. So, as we make these decisions to make Wake County different than all of the other counties, I want you to have in mind that you're also again, contributing to the demise of one of the areas that has helped drive this state for the last decade, decade and a half, and is helping to set the tone for prosperity, economic development, and job creation for the state through this century. And I hope you will give some second thoughts to how you will push your button. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Robinson, for what purpose do you rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Robinson has the floor to speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, mister President. This morning in education I offered an amendment which was ordered down, so I'm not gonna do that this time. Since you're gonna vote against it again, but I do want to say as I stand and as a person who's advocated and worked very hard in education and not as a teacher, but as a citizen, a community advocate, a PTA president, a board member, all the way through, I value the quality of education and we have put a lot of, of, of confidence in electing people who can represent all of the children in Guilford County. And I would say that North Carolina hasn't been so bad as most of you say. We've worked hard in this state for a very long time and we haven't done it all right and it is not where it ought to be, Senator Tillman, but we have worked on it, and things have improved. And in Guilford County, I was one of those persons who helped to merge three systems where there was inequity in school systems and there were not buildings, and then worked on a bond to make sure we had bonds in all of the citizens of our county across, even though some disagreed with merging three, they worked together to make sure we could build schools. Because everybody was concerned about their children having schools to attend. And that was orchestrated by a school board, which represented the entire county and those of us who worked hard. And so what we've seen over the years is a bipartisan board, people represent all of the counties, Senator Gunn, you met one of the persons yesterday who came out of Pleasant Garden who has worked most of her life to make sure, first as a teacher then a principal etcetera, to make sure that quality of educations there, these people do have all kinds of professions, there are, some are lawyers, some are business persons, some are PTA, and some are parents, but they hire people in terms of construction for schools, in terms of assessing what needs to be done. There were people on the redistricting committee with us who were in the business of construction. So we brought all of those disciplines into play to make sure that Guilford County has had a good school board. It does the kinds of things it ought to. It is able to manage and assess and determine what needs to be done to meet the educational needs of its children. And so this bill is going to mean it takes away the responsibility, now my colleague, Senator Wade, will tell you the kind of commissions that say yeah, we want that authority. The school board which has done it says they want to retain that responsibility. And while they've not done it all right, none of us have, but they've worked hard and they've worked hard together, and we had a person here this morning and one yesterday to say that. So I say first, Wake County, please don't tag us to anything else ya'll do. Because we don't need to be tagged again.

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Representative: …watch school and you are not responsible for bus and all that stuff - that is their responsibility. We are just going to build something and you are going to make it work is just insane. It does not make any sense at all. It is just one of the worse ideas – the only one worse than this, is the bill that says school boards get to raise taxes – I would be against this one too. This is a bad bill. We need to leave these school facilities with the people elected to do it, whom the parents are depending on to take care of their children, keep them safe and educate them, and not get us in some catastrophic situation where, because of the facilities, they cannot do that. I urge you to vote against the bill. Speaker: Further discussion or debate? Senator Huff, for what purpose do you rise? Representative: To speak to the bill. Speaker: Senator Huff has the floor to speak to the bill. Representative: For those of you all that were not in education today, I thought I would tell you all what the bill is about. The bill basically allows the counties to be responsible for the construction, improvement, ownership and acquisition of public school property. To me, this is common sense legislation. It simply gives the counties the option to be responsible for this construction. It has nothing to do with the furnishings. It leaves the property to the management of the schools to the school. It requires that the school boards consult with the county commission to relay this information to the them. I try to do common sense legislation. I am a business person and like business people making these kind of multimillion dollar decisions. The chairman of the Wade County School Board spoke today on education. They gave an example of how the Wade County School Board, with the best of best of intention but a lack of acumen, were trying to pay $8 billion for a piece of land and got the county commissioners to back up and buy the land for $4 million. We did a pole of the uban area – actually of all the areas involved in this process, 65% of the county commissioners are business people, 25% are educators. I want a business person making these kind of decisions. To this being politics, in 2010 in Wade county, it is [xx] the democrat majority of the county commissioner voted unanimously to take control of school construction in the county. That was the democrat majority. It was unanimous: 7 to nothing. So much for being political. I am doing this because it makes absolute common sense. I urge you to support this. Speaker: Further discussion or debate? Hearing none, the question before the senate is the passage of the committee substitute of senate bill 236 on its second reading. All in favor will vote aye, opposed will vote no. Five seconds will be allowed for the voting. The clerk will record the vote: 34 having voted in the affirmative, 14 in the negative. Committee substitute to senate bill 236, as amended, has passed its second reading. Senator Parmen, for what purpose do you rise? Representative: My vote should be no please. Speaker: Parmen no. Without objection will be read a third time. Clerk: NC [xx] Speaker: Any further discussion or debate? The house vote 33-15. Further discussion or debate? Hearing none, the question before the senate is the passage of the committee substitute of senate bill 236, as amended, on its third reading. All in favor will say aye. [aye] Opposed, no. [silence] The aye’s have it, committee substitute of senate bill 236, as amended, passes its third reading and will be sent to the house. The amendment will be engrossed and sent to the house.

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[SPEAKER CHANGES]: . . . currently our law defines an ATV as having handlebars and a straddle seat. There are a number of manufacturers, major manufacturers, who actually now have steering wheels and bucket seats. They just want to be legal, that's what the statute does, it changes it to that and has the other safety precautions that are otherwise identified, and has exceptions as to certain types of vehicles that it doesn't apply to. I would commend it to you. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Any discussion or debate? Hearing none, the question before the Senate is the passage of the Committee Substitute to Senate Bill 501 on it's second reading. All in favor will vote aye, opposed vote no, five seconds will be allowed for the voting, the clerk will record the vote. Rucho? Aye. Forty-seven having voted in the affirmative and zero in the negative, the Committee Substitute to Senate Bill 501 passes it's second reading without objection, to be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: North Carolina General Assembly enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Any discussion or debate? Hearing none, the question before the Senate is the passage of the Committee Substitute to Senate Bill 501 on it's third reading. All in favor will say aye, opposed no, the ayes have it. Committee Substitute to Senate Bill 501 passes it's third reading and will be sent to the House. Senate Bill 580. The Clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Senate Bill 580: Expedite Cleanup of ?? Landfill Sites. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Senator Tarte is recognized to explain the Bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Thank you Mr. President and members. This bill establishes a study and a pilot to try alternative means to expedite the cleanup of our landfills. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Mr. President? [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Senator Apodaca, for what purpose do you rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES]: The pro tempore is not loaded. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: OK. Looking at my screen here, mine's loading, so some others aren't. So . . . hold on one second here. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Mr. President, can we poll the members and make sure everybody has 580. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Senators, raise your hand if it's up on your screen, rather, if it's not on your screen raise your hand, that would be more helpful. If it is not on your screen. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: I'm concerned Senator Walters may be on a different application, but we'll go with that. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Senator Walters, is it on your screen? Do you have it yet? Do you have this up on your screen yet? [SPEAKER CHANGES]: No sir, I'm still looking for the paper. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Senator Tarte is recognized to explain the Bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: I'm prepared to answer any questions. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Is there any discussion or debate? Hearing none, the question before the Senate is the passage of the Committee Substitute to Senate Bill 580 on it's second reading. All in favor will vote aye, opposed will vote no, five seconds will be allowed for the voting, the clerk will record the vote. Kinnaird? Kinnaird? Aye. Woodard? Aye. Forty-seven having voted in the affirmative and zero in the negative, the Committee Substitute to Senate Bill 580 passes it's second reading without objection, to be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: North Carolina General Assembly enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Any discussion or debate? Hearing none, the question before the Senate is the passage of the Committee Substitute to Senate Bill 580 on it's third reading. All in favor will say aye, opposed no, the ayes have it. Committee Substitute to Senate Bill 580 passes it's third reading, it will be sent to the House. Senate Bill 614. The Clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Senate Bill 14: WC Cancellation Procedure Changes. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Senators, raise your hand if it is not up on your screen yet; If you do not have it on your screen.

Senator Parmon, do you have it yet? Is it on your screen yet? Senator Woodard, no? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I think everybody’s got it now. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Brown is recognized to explain the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. President. What this bill does is amends the statute to allow an insurer to cancel a worker’s compensation policy using any method of service provided in rule 4 of the North Carolina rules of civil procedure, and I’ll just run over the rules that are included in that, and that’s delivering a copy to the insured or leaving a copy with a person of a suitable age at the insurer’s home, delivering a copy to an agent authorized by the insured, mailing and delivering a copy using registered or certified mail, return receipt requested to the insured, depositing a copy with a designated delivery service and obtaining a delivery receipt, and mailing and delivering a copy using signature confirmation. Parties work this out. I think everybody’s on board with this. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Is there any discussion or debate? Senator Kinnaird, for what purpose do you rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. President. Of course I don’t have it, but that’s alright. What I want to find out is… [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Kinnaird, do you want to ask a question? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I want to ask a question of the bill sponsor. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Brown, do you yield for a question? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I do. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Besides that, I want us to all go back to paper, but I’ll skip that part. What I’m trying to figure out is remember there was a series in the News and Observer about the workers’ compensation? So many employers were simply not carrying the insurance, and then we had people who had terrible injuries and had lifelong industry injuries without any compensation whatsoever, so I’m concerned over the notification, and not having seen this, I’m sorry. What I want to find out is presently do they have to do registered or certified mail and you are now relieving them of that responsibility and they may do that but they must censor first class mail? Is that what’s happening? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Kinnaird, the parties got together to work out these issues. I can go over what the current law does if you want me to, but I think the changes actually improve how notice is provided. I’ll do what you’d like. If you’d like for me to go over the current law, I’ll be glad to do that, but I think it just strengthens the law. [SPEAKER CHANGES] If I may… [SPEAKER CHANGES] Do you want to speak to the bill or do you want to…? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I want to speak to the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Kinnaird has the floor to speak to the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] It says the notice “may”. In other words, present law is “shall”. You are no longer making them – you’re no longer requiring them to go by registered and certified mail, and so what I’m very concerned over is that a businessperson may get a stack of mail – they’re going to get bills, they’re going to get junk mail, they’re going to get all sorts of invoices, and this may not be particularly prominent, whereas if a businessperson gets a registered or certified mail, they will answer that. They will accept it because even if the person who it’s addressed to isn’t there, any employee will very often take it. This poses me great concern that you’re making what was mandatory just permissive now, and I feel that this is a… Especially in light of those articles that showed how many injured people were just simply not covered by insurance so that if their employer has noticed that there’s a cancellation, they would try to remedy that situation. I’m very concerned over this change. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. President? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Brown’s recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Kinnaird, I guess my response, or best response to you, is the parties have got to gather to work out this language, and I think I don’t know of any objections to the way the language is now. That’s the best answer I know to give you at this point, but saying that, I do have an amendment I need to send forth. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator, you can send forward you amendment. If we can get it on the dashboard. Clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Brown moves to amend the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Just hold tight for just a second, Senator. [SPEAKER CHANGES] It’s pretty simple, really. I don’t show if anybody needs to see this one. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Brown, you’re recognized to explain the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. President. Instead of having it

Take place when the act become law. It does set a date of September 1st of 2013 to give everyone time to get ready for the changes. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Is there any discussion or debate? Hearing none, the question for the Senate is passage of Amendment 1. All in favor, vote “Aye”. All opposed, vote “No”. Five seconds will be allowed for the voting. The clerk will record the vote. Kinnaird? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Forty-seven having voted in the affirmative, zero in the negative. Amendment 1 is adopted. The bill as amended is back before the body. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. President. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator McKissick, for what purpose do you rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Just wanted to speak to the issue which has come up relating to the use of Rule 4, as the mechanism for notice. When this bill first came up in committee, there was an alternative procedure being specified and suggested and I actually recommended that we do it this way that could say in a broader, more effective, more legally recognizable way of providing notice. I just wanted to share that with you, Senator Kinnaird. It’s actually better protections than what were in the original bill that was coming before us for consideration. And it provides more protections than otherwise would have been provided for us. I believe that those who dealt with this in committee, Senator Apodaca and Senator ?? remember that we have ?? discussions. It is actually a significant improvement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Cary? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. President, can I ask Senator McKissick a question, please? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator McKissick, do you yield for a question? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Sure. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Do you not have concerns, though, of the fact that it’s only a suggestion that they “may” send by certified whereas before it was “shall”? Shouldn’t they have a belt and suspenders? Shouldn’t they have both? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Obviously, it could almost be… You can take almost any rule and expand upon it, but it was my understanding that based upon the way we… It has come before us now using Rule 4 as the model for doing so. Rule 4 is going to provide for delivery by a deputy sheriff of notice potentially. Rule 4 also provides for service process by publication in some instances. Rule 4 provides for delivery of service by certified mail. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Is there any further discussion or debate? Senator Daniel, for what purpose do you rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Daniel has the floor to speak to the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. President. Members of the Senate, I just want to say I think this is a good bill. Senator Brown’s done a lot of good work and I encourage Senator Apodaca to vote for it. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Is there any discussion or debate? Hearing none, question for the Senate is the passage of the Senate Committee Substitute Bill #614 on its second reading. All in favor will vote, “Aye”. Opposed will vote, “No”. Five seconds will be allowed for the voting. The clerk will record the vote. Committee Substitute Bill 614 passes on its second reading. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. President, I accidentally hit the wrong button. Change it to “Aye”. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Forty-seven having voted in the affirmative, zero in the negative. Committee Substitute Bill #614 passes the second reading without objection. It will be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] ??? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Any further discussion or debate? Hearing none, the question for the Senate is the passage of Committee Substitute Senate Bill 614 on its third reading. All in favor will say, “Aye”. Opposed, “No”. The “Ayes” have it. Committee Substitute Senate bill 614 passes in its third reading. It will be sent to the House. Senate Bill 653. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senate Bill 653: DOT oversight standards for greenways. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Wait one second, Senator Parmon, while we try to get the bill up on the screen. Senators, raise your hand if you don’t have it on your screen right now. Senators, do you have it? Could you share? Perhaps, everybody that doesn’t have it on the screen, if they have someone next to them, can you share? Ford, Woodard, do you both not have it on your screen? Is there anybody that can’t share a screen here? Alright, Senator Parmon is recognized to explain the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. President and members. City Bill 653 will require DOT to develop specific greenway construction standards. Now, cities have to meet the standard stats for highways and roads.

A truck in vehicular traffic, and that's simply not needed for green waste switches for pedestrian and bicycles. So I would ask for your support it will save our cities a lot of money for the use in the other standards. Thank you I ask for your support. [Speaker Change] Is there any discussion, or debate? Hearing none the question for the senate is the passage of Senate bill 653, on its second reading. All in favor vote aye, opposed will vote no. 5 seconds will be allowed for the voting, the clerk will record the vote. Tucker aye, 47 having voted in the affirmative, and 0 in the negative. Senate bill 653 passes its second reading without objection, be read a third time. [Speaker Change] North Carolina ?? enact. [Speaker Change] Any discussion or debate? Hearing none the question for the senate is the passage of Senate bill 653 on its third reading. All in favor will say aye. [Speaker Change] Aye (group) [Speaker Change] Opposed no, the aye's have it. Senate bill 653 passes its third reading, and will be sent to the house. Senate bill 717, the clerk will read. [Speaker Change] Senate bill 717 motor vehicle safety inspection law change. [Speaker Change] Senator Rabin, Brunswick County is recognized. [Speaker Change] Thank you Mr. President we're on hold for a sec. [Speaker Change] Mr. President [Speaker Change] Senator Woodard for what purpose do you rise? [Speaker Change] Just an observation if I may. I've gone to the general assembly home page and from there done a search on the bill, in the search category it pulls it right up. So if that helps anybody who's using the other system, you might just trying going to homepage and doing a search. [Speaker Change] For those technology inclined. Senator Walters how do you feel about that? [Speaker Change] Pretty good. [Speaker Change] Ready? [Speaker Change] At this point Senators how many of you do not have the bill up? They ?? if y'all could share with your neighbor that would be great. And Senator Rabin is recognized to explain the bill. [Speaker Change] Thank you sir I'll try to do a good job of explaining it for anyone who doesn't have it. The proposed committee substitute that I'm bringing before you has, gives the DMV some flexibility in keeping inspection stations open or not taking the license when they find a violation. Sometimes the owner of the inspection station is not aware that a violation is occurring. But under current law DMV has no choice but to suspend the license for a period of time. This bill allows some, a waiver of that strict rule and allows the DMV to use some discretion, and whether or not to issue a violation. Thank you. [Speaker Change] Is there any discussion or debate? [Speaker Change] Mr. President. [Speaker Change] Senator Bingham for what purpose do you rise? [Speaker Change] I'd like to excuse myself from voting if I might. [Speaker Change] You can send forth your excuse Senator. Is there any discussion or debate? Hearing none the question for the Senate is the passage of the committee substitute to Senate bill 717 on its second reading. All in favor will vote aye, opposed will vote no. 5 seconds be allowed for the voting, clerk will record the vote. Barefoot aye, 46 having voted in the affirmative, and 0 in the negative. Committee substitute to Senate bill 717 passes its second reading without objection, will be read a third time. [Speaker Change] North Carolina general assembly enacts. [Speaker Change] Any discussion or debate? Hearing none the question for the Senate is the passage of committee substitute to Senate bill 717 on its third reading. All in favor will say aye. [Speaker Change] Aye (group.) [Speaker Change] Opposed no. The ayes have it. Committee substitute to Senate bill 717 passes its third reading, and will be sent to the house. Senate bill 515, clerk will read. [Speaker Change] Senate bill 515 Jordan Lake water quality act. [Speaker Change] Thank you Mr. President. [Speaker Change] Senator Gunn let's hold on for just a minute. [Speaker Change] Yes sir. [Speaker Change] While we're, our screens refreshing here. Senators if you do not have it on your screen please raise your hand. If you do not have it on your screen, raise your hand. OK Senator Gunn is recognized to explain the bill. [Speaker Change] Thank you Mr. President before I explain the Jordan Lake water quality act, I do have an amendment to send forward, very technical, small technical correction, and it should be on the dashboard maybe. [Speaker Change] Senator you can send forward your amendment, we'll hold for another minute while we wait for the dashboard.

Senators who does not have the amendment up on the screen? Raise your hand if you do not have your amendment on the screen. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. President. [SPEAKER CHANGES] You could share with your neighbor please. The Senator Gunn is recognized explain the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] This is literally about as simple as I can get it. We left out two periods in two places and we have put those periods in. ???? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Gunn that was my error here. We have to read this in first. The clerk will read the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Gunn moves to amend the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Gunn is there anything further to explain about the amendment? That's it? Any further discussion or debate? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I-- [SPEAKER CHANGES] Hearing none, the question for senate is the passing of the passage of amendment one. All in favor will vote "Aye". Oppose will vote "No". 5 seconds will be allowed for the voting clerk will record the vote. Tillman: "Aye". Bryant: "Aye". 47 haven't voted their affirmative in zero in the negative. Amendment one is adopted, the bill has amended. It is back before the Body. Senator Gunn is recognized to explain the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. President, members of the Senate, the Jordan Lakewater Quality Act. Just let me start off by saying: I know that there's not a single member in this place who does not want to see clean water in the Jordan Lake. Not a single member. But, I also know that we were dealt a bad hand by the core engineers and were told from day one, when they impounded this lake, that it was going to be full of nutrients and it was gonna be impeded. Regrettably, this has caused a lot of folks upstream, municipalities, to have a hardship when it comes to what they are required to do relative to mitigation efforts upstream. And it also has curtailed development, it's curtailed business, and it's been tough on the tax payers. None of this has been positive. But, the most disturbing thing is that we have over eight years, per Deener, not seen one single improvement in the water quality in the Jordan Lake. Not one single improvement in eight years. Keep in mind, that's four years prior to the initiation of lake laws and since then. Not one single improvement. Not at all. With all the costs incurred, millions to date. Here's what the bill does, five things: It's gonna provide historical context that the feds knew that the lake was impaired and prior to construction and they built it anyway. This bill clearly states the legislative intent that the current water quality strategies are not working and sets forth a new strategy to improve water quality of the lake by developing new rules. It immediately repeals related session laws and directs repeal of rules by October of 2013. It creates an LRC study commission consisting of five senators and five house members to research the issue during the interim including reiteration of authority to hire technical consultants and provide legislative proposals to the 2014 general assembly. And finally, it directs Deener and the ?? to work with the core and the EPA to identify mitigation strategies focusing on treatment, remediation in or at the lake. Folks, we got handed an impaired lake. And I mean, this thing is very impaired. And as I mentioned, eight years of Deener, data shows us that we've had no significant improvement and the algae issues are still there, and we have no reason to believe that they're going to change. Hundreds of millions of dollars later, we have no improvement. Evidence suggests that the deployment of unlimited resources and technology upstream will never, will never, improve the water quality in Lake Jordan. Right now, Cary is proposing spending two million dollars investment on an aeration, mitigation technology for their water treatment intake and they're in the best part of the lake and they're spending two million dollars. It continues to put a tremendous burden on the municipalities and the county governance as well as the private sector. It's a tax burden on our citizens. Technology does exist today, and this is from Deener, technology exists, that will help us in developing new rules. It does exist and we need to take those technologies and require-- (Video ends in the middle of "require")

The new regulatory approach that maybe works. Let’s make this thing work. There is no reason for us to continue to throw good money after bad. Let me sum it up by saying this, “we all had the same goal, we want assured North Carolinians”. North Carolinians can use Jordan Lake as a source of good, clean drinking water and as a great place for recreation and to spend time with your families. But the current rules simply are not working. The water quality problems remain and may have gotten worse. Let’s redirect our resources to a system that achieves positive results. I’ll be glad to answer any questions and I appreciate your support. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. President. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Stein, for what purpose do you rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Stein has the floor to speak to the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Well, I agree with Senator Gunn at one point. The lake is polluted. Jordan Lake has drinking water for about 300 thousand North Carolinians. 1.2 million went to the state parks to enjoy it and hundreds of thousands more used the boat ?? The fishermen, swimmers, boaters, campers and it’s polluted because there’s too much algae. Excessive nitrogen and phosphorus creates that. The way he talked about we need a process, engage the stakeholders, come up with a way to come up with some rules that make sense, is completely devoid of history. 15 years ago, the General Assembly enacted the clean water responsibility act which called for rules to limit pollution in Jordan Lake and upgrade waste water systems upstream. Required those changes to be made by 2003. 1999, several hall river communities sought a delay so there could be some modeling, pollution modeling of the lake. That was actually a good idea. I’d figure few years to do. ?? started the stakeholder process to draft the rules in 2003, 10 years ago. 2005, there were draft rules offered to deal with the pollution. But Greensboro and Burlington sought additional delay. ?? went through a second stakeholder process. 2006, there were 27 stakeholder meetings and ?? sent it to the environmental management commission. 2007, 14 meetings with stakeholders in 2007 and 2008, it went to the rules review commission. Had five meetings on the Jordan Lake rules. Throughout the entire process, all stakeholders, municipalities, developers, agricultural interests – they were participating at these more than 50 meetings. It already happened. It came to the General Assembly and disapprove a bill just as we learn, talked about earlier about the administrative process. Out of a 108 to 109 in the House and almost unanimously in the Senate, we agreed to extend the date for Greensboro to improve its waste water treatment plan from 2014 to 2016 and for new development ordinances we pushed to 2012. Well, last session, you all moved the Greensboro waste water plan date from 2016 to 2018 and the new development ordinance to 2014. Last time ?? were in 2013. Senator Gunn expresses amazement that there’s been no improvement in the lake. The reason there has been no improvement in the water quality of the lake is because the rules have not taken effect yet. You all keep putting them off. I accept this notion that there are inherent problems with Jordan Lake. It’s a shallow lake. It’s gonna have its problems. But to conclude from that that we do nothing and we eliminate all rules that deal with the pollution that flows into the lake, is inane. By the same logic, somebody who is genetically overweight shouldn’t be concerned at all about what they eat. Eat all the sweets and sugar that they want, it’s okay because we will treat them for diabetes. That is what this bill says. Let’s treat it at the source, let’s not limit the amount of new pollution that comes in. There’s not a doctor in the country who would recommend.

Such a foolish course, and yet that is precisely what this Bill does. Again, the cost that Senator Gunn pointed to for the Jordan Lake rules. He reported to Carey having to spend 2 million dollars to treat polluted drinking water. The solution in this Bill is for Carey to spend more money to clean up even more polluted drinking water over time. That is not the solution. Carey adamantly is opposed to this legislation. The Jordan Lake rules will improve water quality, protect public health, and benefit the region's economy. Eliminating these rules is incredibly short-sided. Carey is one of the fastest growing municipalities in the country. Raleigh, Carey, metro areas are the fasted growing in the nation. It was selected as the number two best place for business and career. Just today, Forbes Magazine named Carey one of the best cities for jobs. It's home to Sass, a world class institution. Year after year, named one of the best places in the world to work, for families. It is home to the MetLife expansion in Charlotte, 2,600 jobs. The State invested tens of millions of dollars to bring MetLIfe to Carey. so what, they could have more polluted drinking water? You pollute Carey's drinking water and you damage our State's ability to thrive economically, to create jobs for the people of the State, and for the people of Carey to contribute mightily to the general fund through the income taxes and the other taxes it pays. This is an extremely short-sided bill. To eliminate the rules that have been under construction for fifteen years, it is completely a historic. It assumes that nothing has been worked on, that no prospectives were included. Please, vote against this legislation. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Mr. President. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Senator McKissick for what purpose do you rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Speak on the Bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: Senator McKissick has the floor to speak on the Bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES]: I think we can all share concern about the water quality in Jordan Lake and that's simply what everybody tried to do. You hear about this going on for fourteen, fifteen years. Well, I have been intricately involved in this process for at least five of those years, and I know that all of the stakeholders came together, all the communities that were impacted, the upstream communities, as well as those that use this as a water supply today and understand the Core of Engineers has issued authorization for many of the communities in this area to draw water from this lake at some point in the future. They may not be drawing it today but at some point in the future they may, so it's in everybody's vested interest to protect this very valuable commodity. That's what all the stakeholders attempted to do. To come up and craft a set of very fairly and balanced set of rules that we can all live by. That wasn't very long ago and here we are four years down the road, three years down the road, we've postponed a number of deadlines. We're really not giving it a chance to be fully implemented. It's not to say there may not be new emerging technologies, there might not be new strategies or approaches or new methodologies that can be improved upon other than what's in this existing set of rules that we have. I would like to see us pursue those new technologies. I would like to see us explore what else can be done, but I don't want to see us abandon what we have until something new and better can be devised and put in effect. I think when you repeal what we have without coming up with a new set of rules, a new set of regulations, a new set of strategies to protect the water quality in Jordan Lake, then we've got a problem. To go out there now and abandon the hard work that went into this for all the stakeholders would be a tragedy of justice to be honest with you. It really is the wrong thing to do and is extraordinarily short-sided. If Senator Gunn wants to work on new methodologies, if he wants to pull together that stakeholder group again together to have a see what could be done, then I will work with him as vigorously as possible to see that that can be done as expeditiously as possible. It is my understanding from looking at the Bill that he would like to look at some alternatives. My only thing I have to say to Senator Gunn is lets look at alternatives and come up with solutions first before we totally abandon what we have today. There will certainly be communities that have

they will bear. We all have to bear those costs. That's part of us living upstream from any water supply. If we want to protect that water quality for those downstream communities. And yes, those that draw the water out today need to be also contributing to that. I know I've had a study bill, that, filed this year we filed it once before, we've never gotten around to doing it. But one of the things that we'll look at is how you hear that burden, and hear that cost, between upstream communities and the downstream beneficiaries that may be drawing from that water supply. WE need to balance the cost of implementing measures that mitigate pollutants that's going into the water supply. But most importantly we need to work together to pull together the state ?? approve that come up with alternatives. But to go and cast away what we've carefully devised without an alternate being in place that we can implement I think is a short sighted and a doomed approach. [SPEAKER DISCUSSIONS] IS there any further discussion or debate? [SPEAKER CHANGES] President. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Woodard, for what purpose do you rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speak to the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senator Woodard has the floor to speak to the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. President. Jane Jacobs, the mother of modern urban planning, wrote in her seminal book The Death and Life of Great American Cities that building a dream city is easy. Rebuilding a living city takes imagination. And I believe for us to fix the ?? Jordan Lake will take a lot of imagination. And unfortunately I don't see that imagination in this bill. I have the unique position of having sat on the local government side of this bill for most of their life. In 2005 I joined the city council about the time you all were approving, or EMC was sending us the first round of rules. I've lived there, I've sat with them. I've been in meeting after meeting with storm water staff members. I have three notebooks in my office I brought from Durham city hall, because I knew I'd need them here. And sure enough I did. I've sat with developers trying to figure out how we could save a deal as we went through these rules. From that perspective I speak to you today. You've already heard how Jordan Lake is going to be a source of drinking water. We've heard about Cary. But it also includes Apex and Holly Springs and Morrisville. It includes unincorporated parts of Wake County when they need water. It includes the research triangle park, the economic engine of this part of the state. It includes communities served by Owasso, and in Chatham County a growing part of our region that includes incorporated parts of Cary in Chatham County. It's an important recreational destination and there are a lot of business that rely on the recreation in Jordan Lake. But as Senator Gunn has correctly pointed in down there I have where you can see nothing but green all across the lake. And we need to repair it, or it's going to threaten many economic engines in this region. But how do we clean it up? And what are the costs that are going to be associate? When you all finished with the rules in 2009, a unanimous vote in this chamber, near unanimous across the lobby. And even before that, I've sat there in the city of Durham, and we began working, we began implementing, we began planning and working with our developers, our chamber of commerce, our local businesses on how we were going to implement these rules. So I've lived in, now, for four years plus. During this time, now we've heard from critics "well, it's been a lot of cost. Our construction's down, it's hurting our economy". While we were living with the rules in the city of Durham, construction up, new home construction, up. New home sales, up. Unemployment, down. And we have approved a number of projects in the Lake Jordan water shed. We were able to work through these rules. I've been there, I've helped negotiate with developers in our planning department. We've been able to work with these rules and keep our economy growing. And we didn't agree with all the rules. Let me tell you, we fought like heck on many of them. We challenged the science in many times. IN fact local environmental group sent out an email in which its executive director called me an environmental bully. Me, an environmental bully. So we didn't agree with-

small but we found ways to work with them. They haven’t worked? Well that’s a specious argument from folks upstream because we’ve proven that we can make them work in Durham over these last few years. We’ve taken steps while others decided to sit on the sidelines and pray for a more favorable group here in the General Assembly. We’ve implemented those rules. Others just asked for more time. So sure, they’re not going to work if you don’t work with them. And their sign talked about weight loss, my doctor wants me to lose a little bit of weight. But until I start getting to the gym, ya’ll start letting me out of here at a reasonable hour, we’re not going to know if I can lose any weight. So of course they haven’t worked, nobody’s implemented them yet. And it’s going to take time. Remember we didn’t get, I didn’t get fat overnight, this Lake didn’t get impaired overnight. I’m not going to be thinner over time, Jordan Lakes not going to be cleaner in just a few years with no rules in place. Now all of this work that started here back seven eight years ago was done under the specter of the Clean Water Act, and we cannot forget that. EPA, under these rules, would allow a supplemental permit. Allow all of us to develop and to expand in the basin with a total management daily load. Technical term there, but we have to be responsible stewards of that EPA permit. And I believe this action is irresponsible and will raise EPA’s attention even more with other regulations that are leaving this General Assembly this summer. And what’s going to happen is we run the risk of EPA stepping in and taking away that supplemental permit. What’s the net result of that ladies and gentleman? Your developers, mine, yours upstream will then have to go to the region four office of EPA in Atlanta and get their individual permits. Is that what you want to do? You talk about adding cost to your development, you let your individual home builders your developers go fight with EPA to get their permits in Atlanta. We also run the risk of EPA suing the state for not following the tenants of the clear water act. That drives up litigation costs and every time we delay and EPA is just waiting with their rules it’s gonna just cost us more and more to implement these rules however they come down. This morning a number of us heard Secretary Decker talk about her five tenants of a healthy economy. The two of them, for those of you who weren’t there, that I would like to share with you. One was health. She said that our economy is not going to improve until we’re a healthy state, and that we have a better quality of air and water. And the second was a quality of life that encourages a good clean environment. I believe this bill challenges two of those tenants that the secretary shared with us this morning. I’m sorry my recycling truck came to my block today because I would’ve loved to have brought you Saturday’s real estate section. Some people still advertise in the newspaper by the way in spite our efforts. The real estate section out of Saturday’s paper, where you see an add from a developer, whose developed a great project in the Jordan Lake water shed in southern Durham. We worked with this developer, I worked very hard because that’s in my former city council district. We worked very carefully with this developer so they could navigate these rules and have a development that would sustain whatever the Jordan Lake rules are. Well he fought, we were still fighting him at the time that this development started. But ultimately we were able to get there, and now when you see his half page add every Saturday he touts proximity to I40 to the good jobs at UNC and at Duke, proximity to South Point Mall. But the second bullet in his add every Saturday says minutes from beautiful Jordan Lake, that’s what he’s selling with this project. Ladies and Gentleman of the Senate we can have a beautiful Jordan Lake that provides safe drinking water for three hundred thousand plus people in the region that

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so shop that was a normal life in the federal government 's been finally find that you have when you can backfield is growing twenty dray age, you will raise near as often will save everybody a lot of money and will protect the points that were having ringers over not. it's just good common sense of the engineer is going to do the job. what they're supposed to have a I just understand the fine report [SPEAKER CHANGES] on a further discussion of night during the course of processes vascular receptors of the one fifty one, as amended, on second reading on favourable. I was in no five seconds VLF is voting record for the court, Clark. I presented have voting affirmative intent in the negative may substitute Senate Bill one fifty one+ attended basses. second reading Senator Robinson for a level to know that Rafsanjani's about to know thirty six to eleven objection. irrelevant or John God has him back zero any further discussion of a hearing that was imposed in this basket is subject to Senate Bill one fifty one, as amended, on his third reading, all in favour say I always know the eyes have it resulted Seville, one fifty one, as amended passes third reading the amendment will be engrossed and sent to the house 's presence in Iraq, Doctor horrible 's US motion Place• Attest for promotion was present on the rules be suspended again that all house bills and resolutions, the task of raising in the house for Thursday May sixteenth jumping gain timely under Senate rules for him proceed by the Senate product conclusion of the Senate 's next legislative day occurring after Thursday May sixty objections,Aurora is yours, that wraps up the calendar for the day. it really noses or announcements sent another of those US diagnosed positive front announcement area of your house [SPEAKER CHANGES] Democrats will caucus briefly on term [SPEAKER CHANGES] any other notices, announcements journey other business composer is not the chair recognizes unapproved promotion, expressed in percentages, John subject to receive committee report. the rest of bills and resolutions and receipt of messages from the house and the governors reconvene tomorrow, May fifteen two thousand thirteen at nine a.m.. motion was a descendent who now turns under the stipulation stated by Sun river to reconvene Thursday May sixteenth at nine a.m., second by Senator chart all in favour say I both know the eyes have a set of standards are