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House | June 20, 2013 | Chamber | Session

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[Speaker]: The house will come to order, without objection, rule 12H is suspended. Subjection so ordered. [Pause] Members please take your seats. Visitors please retire from the chamber. [Pause] The Sergeant of Arms will close the doors. Members, Visitors in the gallery please silence all cellular phones and personal electronic devices. The prayer will be offered by Representative Jacqueline Schaffer. Members and Visitors in the gallery please stand and remain standing for the pledge of allegiance. [Speaker Change]: Would you pray with me. Heavenly Father, Lord we come before you today. We thank you just for this beautiful day and for this opportunity to serve you in this general assembly. Lord we just, we give you credit for who you are and what you have called us to do here and we thank you that you guide us and that you direct us and that you give us wisdom. We ask that you be in this place today. Lord that you would give us guidance and wisdom as we seek to do your will here. I pray that you would be with us as we make these decisions. I pray Lord that you would just guide our speech, our decisions and our interactions with each other. Lord we give you great glory and praise and we thank you again for what you are doing through us in this general assembly. We thank you for this opportunity. In Jesus name I pray, Amen. [Speaker Change]: I pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nations under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [Speaker Change]: Representative Moore is Recognized. [Speaker Change]: Mr. Speaker, the journal for Wednesday June the 19th 2013, have been examined and found to be correct. Move to approve as written. [Speaker Change]: Representative Moore moves that the journal for June 19th be approved as written. All in favor say Aye [Speaker Change]: Aye [Speaker Change]: All opposed say no. The Aye's have it, the journal is approved as written. Petitions, memorials, or papers addressed to the general assembly or the house. Ratification of bills or resolutions the clerk will read. [Speaker Change]: [inaudible] bill 285 eliminate the requirement that would come into effect on July 1st 2013. [Inaudible] 20-139.cb created by Craig and body. That is signatory to the national accreditation corporation senate bill 336 an act will find the division of medical system public health within the Department of Health and human services. A health plan within the department of state treasury to coordinate diabetes programs. Senate bill 461, an act provide more vehicles to our third party commercial drivers license skills testing. Any day of the week. House bill 686, an act to rename the North Carolina seafood industrial park authorities. House Bill 830 an act to adopt official state fossil, frog, salamander, marsupial, folk art, and art medium. And the following bill resolution [inaudible] ratified and presented to the secretary of state. House Bill 140 act to regulate utility vehicles. House bill 305, an act remain to charge the town of chapel hill. House bill 326, an act requiring consent of Ruth ford county before land in the county may be condemned or require by a unit of local government outside of the county. House Bill 354, an act authorizing the two county commissioners to serve on the board of Ash and Buck ham technical community college. House bill 408, an act to prohibit the discharge of firearm or bow and arrow from the right of way of Beau ford county. House bill 427, an act omitting the chart of down the middle sect to determine the office of mayor from 2 to 4 years. House bill 562, an act to revise and consolidate the chart of the town of Cramberton. Senate joint resolution 15, The joint resolution are in the life and memory of Gene Ralph. Press and former member of the general assembly. [Pause] [Speaker Change]: Mr. Speaker [Speaker Change]: Representative Moore, please state your purpose [Speaker Change]: Referral of a bill [Speaker Change]: The gentleman is recognized. [Speaker Change]: Mr. Speaker, Senate Bill 127. Senate Bill 127 was sent to the appropriations sub committee on NER prior to report being issued by the commerce report. That bill needs to be removed from the commerce, excuse me the appropriations NER sub committee and referred back to the commerce committee so that Chairman Murray can get a report generated on that. [Speaker Change]: Without objection [Speaker Change]: Mr. Speaker [Speaker Change]: Representative Stand please state your purpose [Speaker Change]: Would, could we have a short title for that number? [Speaker Change]: Customer Service Economic Development Transportation D issue on that one. Representative Stand is that they needed to do their report prior to the referral. As soon as they do their reports it's going to go right back where I just pulled it from. [Speaker Change]: Without objection [Speaker Change]: So ordered [Speaker Change]:The a motion pertaining to today's calendar [Speaker Change]: The gentleman is recognized [Speaker Change]: Senate bill 103 on page 2 of your

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…as any other order. So I ask for your support. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not the question before the House is the motion to concur in the Senate Committee Substitute for House Bill 209. All in favor vote aye, all opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. All members please record Representative Hardister. The clerk will out machine record the vote. One hundred and three having voted affirmative, none in the negative, the House has concurred in the Senate Committee Substitute for House Bill 209, the bill being rolled and sent to the Governor. Representative Hanes, does the gentleman wish to record? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes, Mr. Speaker. Record, yes, please. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Gentleman record vote is on. House Bill 626 the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senate Committee Substitute for House Bill 626 a bill to be entitled an act to promptly notify local law enforcement agencies of certain information about vehicles that have been towed at the direction of a person other than the owner or operator of the vehicle. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moffitt, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For a motion, Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for a motion and to debate the motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. I move that the House do concur with House Bill 626 as it has returned to us from the Senate. All the changes that occurred on the Senate side were actually directed by the House, and I know that’s kind of a rare occurrence. But the House was fully involved with this bill from the beginning to the end. And essentially what we did, if you remember this bill wasn’t perfect when it left the House, but we needed to get it over to the Senate before crossover deadline. And we had a stakeholder’s meeting with the tow operators, DOT, DMV, law enforcement, as well as the National Emergency Number Association. We have a consensus bill, and essentially what it does is in a non-law enforcement directed tow, or a non-posted tow, the tow operator must contact the local law enforcement agency having jurisdiction for the area. Notify them of a description of the vehicle, the place from which the vehicle was towed, the place where the vehicle will be stored, and the contact information for the person from whom the vehicle owner may retrieve the vehicle. They’ll make that information known to the local law enforcement agencies, so when the owner shows up and discovers their car is missing, they typically call 9-1-1, That 9-1-1 operator will give them the local number that they need to call, and they’ll have that information available to you, to them. So I’d appreciate your support. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Dollar, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To ask the bill sponsor a question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moffitt, does the gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I do. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moffitt, let me first say I appreciate all of your work on this, and I apologize for not being able to catch you before this session and ask you a quick question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Sure. [SPEAKER CHANGES] And that is, if you were towing from a… If the tower’s towing from a… A vehicle’s been sitting on a private lot, will they need to wait? Will they need to contact law enforcement and wait for law enforcement to get back in touch with them, or is the requirement thus they can go ahead and tow the vehicle, but they have to call in the information? [SPEAKER CHANGES] In a private lot towing, if the private lot is posted or not posted? If the private lot is posted, they don’t need to make any call whatsoever. If it is a private lot that is unposted, then they’ll need to notify law enforcement. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Just a quick follow up? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I yield. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does that follow up have to happen before they move the vehicle, or that can be as process of moving the vehicle or as soon as they move the vehicle, get that information into the appropriate law enforcement? [SPEAKER CHANGES] We provided for about a 30 minute leeway there, for them to notify law enforcement that they are making the tow. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not the question before the House is the motion to concur in the Senate Committee Substitute for House Bill 626. All in favor vote aye, all opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will out machine record the vote. One hundred and four having voted in the affirmative, none in the negative, the House has concurred in the Senate Committee Substitute to House Bill 626, the bill being rolled and sent to the Governor. House Bill 628, the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senate Committee Substitute for House Bill 628 a bill to be entitled an act to require net savings in association with major facilities construction and renovation projects, and protect use of North Carolina products in major facilities’ construction and renovations ?? under a sustainable energy efficient buildings program. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Presnell, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To make a motion and debate the motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady’s recognized to make a motion and debate the motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Ladies and gentlemen this is House Bill 628, back again. This is my lumber bill. And I wish I could do what Representative…

Roger West does, and just ask you to vote green. But when it got over to the Senate, they did put two amendments on it. The first one is to require state construction projects using an energy efficient or green building design, that it meet a net savings requirement in the first ten years of the life of the project. The second amendment was to require projects to not disadvantage all local North Carolina products including wood and steel and concrete. Is this exactly what I wanted? No, but it's a good step. It starts the process. All interested parties, NewCore with steel, concrete, timber, even the architects have no opposition, and I ask you to support this bill in concurrence. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Mobley, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady is recognized to debate the motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you very much Mr. Speaker. I just wanted to let the members know that while it is not what NewCore would want, they have been advised and they support the bill as it is now. Thank you so very much. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Samuelson, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady is recognized to debate the motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I wanted to thank the sponsor of the bill and the other groups that got together to work on it. I did have trouble with this bill when it went through the first time and I'm happy to support it this time. I think they did a great job of trying to find a way to make everybody as happy as possible. Thanks. I urge your support. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate. If not, the question before the House is the motion to concur in the Senate Committee Substitute for House Bill 628. All in favor vote aye. All opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will opt machine record the vote. 105 having voted in the affirmative, none in the negative. The House has concurred on the Senate Committee Substitute to House Bill 628. The bill will be enrolled and sent to the Governor. House Bill 785. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senate Committee Substitute for House Bill 785, the bill ?? "An act to create a statewide pilot program to enable cost-sharing for transportation improvements and to authorize the department of transportation to create a statewide pilot program for contracted services cost-savings." [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Iler, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For a motion and to debate the motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for a motion and to debate the motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker. The bill left here as a simple transportation improvements bill, cost-sharing bill, but it was to allow the DOT to enter into contracts on major projects involving multiple driveways, multiple turn lanes and signals, and that sort of thing with major developments and multiple developers, so they would enter into contracts so that the cost would be shared among the developers, not just the first developer in would have to bear the entire cost. The Senate Transportation Committee, Senator Gunn, on the Senate Transportation Committee, added Section 2, which is a good idea from another bill somewhere, that will allow DOT to save up to 10% of their costs in different areas of DOT, up to 10%. And it's what they call the finders keepers. They use that money and not just automatically, if they save money for the state, not just automatically have to give it up. So, it's a very good addition. I had no problems with it, and I hope you all will not have any problems with it. It just adds to the bill, it counts as two different things the cost-sharing with developers as well as the 10% savings in DOT. I urge your support of the, I urge your concurrence. And I did mean to make a motion to concur also. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate. If not, the question before the House is the motion to concur in the Senate committee substitute for House Bill 785. All in favor vote aye. All opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will opt machine record the vote. 104 having voted in the affirmative, none in the negative. The House has concurred on the Senate Committee Substitute for House Bill 785. The bill will be enrolled and sent to the Governor. House Bill 868. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senate Committee Substitute for House Bill 868, a bill ?? "An act to repeal unnecessary statutes, make conforming changes to the general statutes, and clarify operation and oversight of certain residential schools formerly governed by the Department of Health and Human Services." [SPEAKER CHANGES] Ladies and gentlemen, before

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him place within the running business, please know manuals, and I apologize that nothing is filled with one since we only have four vehicles left my understanding as well. is this a state wide builders just for the four black counties that don't have a DMV office. this is a state wide veil over the reducing problem solvers. they presented Goodman. please take your purpose as a question of a bill sponsored that about his general menu to jump fields of a person of our business. [SPEAKER CHANGES] this bill all allow for people who were temporarily home bound. my someone in post surgery to qualify for the service can also say I don't like to reveal more thoroughly in your analysis staff are always good. we followed Mister Smith,German yields a good week. could we find that out as possible staffers a mighty good see if that is any good, and we will and will take a second reading direct. we will hold on third reading and try get an answer before we take their grading if we can before the end of the session today [SPEAKER CHANGES] for the discussion further back if not a question for the house is the passage of Senate committee substitute Senate Bill seven twelve at second reading all day right. I'll post another article about all members please record present limit, but watching for that one hundred for having an affirmative one of the negative the house has been city committee subject to Senate Bill twelve status, a second reading and will remain on the coconut [SPEAKER CHANGES] forty three Margaret Simpson speak about that since copies want to log difference between dissident house rents in his own house, milk, two barn. note that an act authorizing out stuff sources don't usually do bumper poppy delivered on some public sale of the property. I went certified mail via glorified electric electronic mail public knows of any commercially reasonable manner to conduct sale through an online public access blocked websites increase of minimally these are self storage facility rental contracts, properties, recommended Senate, House of Representatives adopt this report copies of the student centred around chairs of the original Bateman and you copies for house representatives reps into Stephen's chair Representative Shepherd Murray cheater, saying Miguel at a glacier 's status researcher purpose. discount cards purportedly for its adoption. the latest information and to make a motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] now if you will let us this conference report, absolutely. make no changes to the bill that came over from the Senate. else I hear that we had a debate we had a discussion of the rules and what our roles provide is that we can only take up a conference report those issues which are in controversy. the house 's concern was the location of the newspaper that issue was not in controversy. had we taken it up, we would create a slippery slide that you and I'll start saying every conference report, adding new issues are writing and designing the deal set for consistency in the respect of our roles. we did not make any additional changes to the report, and we would still ask for your support of Zen about what we think your purpose today, connection, the laser guesstimate I think her with Judy Stevens, adherence to the rules, I be the first one to Katie that changing them is the slippery slope. what we didn't have to be aware of and this is a lesson for me is how carefully we read the legislation we passed and what a simple word can do in changing policy and when we say that simple word to stop and think, is that the policy that we won't to take all or to the state and what could its ramifications. the topic for all of us. it's a lesson learned that the words on the pieces of paper means something, and we need to read them carefully thank you presented all probably pleased that your purpose but to debate the question as to the right margin. thank you, Mister space or I was an outspoken opponent of this when I was home floor, but the unit we take Vincennes we move on now where we are now as I think where the goodwill of both bodies is where we should be

Support for the nation to concur [SPEAKER CHANGES]Further discussion further debate on the motion, if not the question before the house is the motion to adopt the conference report for house bill 243, all in favor vote aye, all opposed vote no, the clerk will open the vote. The clerk will opt machine record the vote, 98 having voted in the affirmative, 4 in the negative, the conference report has been adopted the senate will be so notified, the bill will be ordered and rolled and sent to the governor. House bill 529 the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House bill 529, the bill will be inclined to enact to authorization county to levy an occupancy tax ?? of north Carolina enacts [SPEAKER CHANGES]Representative Tolson please state your purpose [SPEAKER CHANGES]Speak on the bill [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill [SPEAKER CHANGES]Thank you Mr speaker , members of the house, this is your traditional occupancy tax bill, Michigan county has asked to establish that, as well as the traveling juries of authority, appreciate your support [SPEAKER CHANGES]Further discussion further debate, if not the question before the house is to pass the house bill 529 on its second reading, all in favor vote aye, all opposed vote no. The Clerk will open the vote. The Clerk will let the machine record the vote. 79 have voted in the affirmative 24 in the negative. House bill 529 has passed its second reading and will remain on the calendar. House bill 476 the clerk will read [SPEAKER CHANGES]?? Subtute #2 for house bill 476, the bill will be inclined to enact rewriting the laws regulating under ground utility damage prevention, General Stevens of north Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Representative Hager please state your purpose [SPEAKER CHANGES]To brief the debate to be on, then send forth the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES]The gentleman is recognized to support the bill [SPEAKER CHANGES]Thank you mr speaker,This is a bill that we have been working on for almost a year now there is an instance back in 2010 that made us start looking at this and i will just read you some of the root cause analysis done about a death that happened because of the underground utility process we had. It says it was termed that through causes this accident, was a failure of the company to employ the properly and locate the underground lines that we have an individual that put his backhoe attachment into a 7200 volt line because our process on underground utilities was a bad process. So we took up about this time last year, we put together an industry group that looked and documented the process and i gave them several charges. One charge was were going to have a training process that will be documented, we would have the equipment testing and calibration test that would be documented, We would have a common marking system in North Carolina, and everybody that did this kind of work whether utility or excavator, would be included in the a11 system. We would have root cause analysis process, and we would have an enforcement piece, that is what you have before you today. and with that mr speaker i would like to send forth an amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Gentleman is recognized to send forth an amendment, the clerk will read [SPEAKER CHANGES]Representative Hager moves to amend the bill on page 4 , line 13-14, by rewriting those lines to read [SPEAKER CHANGES]The gentleman is recognized to debate the amendment,. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Thank you mr speaker this amendment basically has some further clarifications of the training issue, on page 413-413 it talks about how we will assess the method of assessment for the new notification center we are putting together. The second is about training and documenting the training, and the third is exempting the farmers from there average every day tilling that they do, with that mr speaker i would ask for the pass of the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES]The gentleman please restate [SPEAKER CHANGES]Sorry about that, with that mr speaker i would ask for passage of the amendment [SPEAKER CHANGES]Further discussion or further debate on the amendment. If not the question before the house is the passage of the amendment sent forth by representative Hager for the house committee substitute #2 for the house bill 476, all in favor vote AYE, all opposed vote no, the clerk will open the vote. The clerk will let the machine record the vote. 103 have voted in the affirmative, none in the negative. The amendment passes we are now back on the bill. Representative Hager is recognized to debate the bill as amended. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Thank you mr speaker just to give you guys an example of the consensus bill we

have in front of you. We had excavators at the table. We had all the utilities, whether it’s a cable utility, fiber optic, however utility, gas utility, surveyors, farmers, landscapers, municipalities, counties, railroad, DOT all came to the table and agreed on this bill. Now this is a bill that will protect our workers whether you’re a worker for Duke Power, whether you’re a worker for a municipality, whether you’re a worker for REMC or whether you’re a surveyor. It will protect them from the possibility of getting into a line that they don’t know is there. With that, I would ask for the passage. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Brody, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] May I ask the bill sponsor a question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Hager, does the gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I do. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Hager, a few years back when I was pretty much building pretty stead and we had a call in some of these locates, the general rule was that they would guarantee that that line was somewhere within a foot and a half of either side of the marking itself. Have they kind of narrowed that down a little more? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Brody, we’ve done a couple of thing. One is we require a common marking system which will help your situation and I’ll explain that in a minute. That was not prevalent in North Carolina. You could be in one part of the state and they would have a marking system for power or water or sewer and you could be in another utility, for instance in Dominion Power, and they would mark a different way. In doing that and able to do a calibration of the equipment, we’re able to go to a 24 inch area that you cannot dig in now and be more certain now with this bill than we ever have been before. So we actually went down from 3 feet to 24 inches. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate. If not, the question before the House is the passage of the House committee substitute number two to House Bill 476 as amended on its second reading. All in favor vote aye, all opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. All members please record. Representative Brody. Representative Bumgardner. The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 105 having voted in the affirmative and none in the negative, the House committee substitute number two for House Bill 476 as amended has passed its second reading. Without objection will be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate. If not, the question before the House is the passage of House committee substitute number two for House Bill 476 as amended on its third reading. All in favor say aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] All opposed say no. The ayes have it. The House committee substitute number two for House Bill 476 as amended has passed it’s third reading. The bill will be engrossed and sent to the Senate. House Bill 573. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House Bill 573. The bill has been entitled An Act to Expand the Definition of Public Corporation for the Purpose of Establishing Foreign Trade Zones. General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Steinburg, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To address the bill please. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Ladies and gentlemen, this bill is not very long in length. You can read it very quickly, but the impact that this bill will have if passed to the economy of north eastern North Carolina and in fact to the state of North Carolina will be immense. Basically what this bill does is to provide a platform for us to utilize the largest port on the east coast. The port of Norfolk. Our finger counties are uniquely positioned to be part of this foreign trade zone to be able to utilize this port which is currently getting many requests for more traffic, but they just don’t have the warehousing facilities, they don’t have the assembly facilities, so they would like to reach into North Carolina and use these finger counties, which would be great for them and for all of us. This bill passed unanimously through commerce and job development and also the other day through finance. I know of no objections to this bill in either the House or the Senate so I would ask you to please, let’s support this unanimously if we can. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate. If not, the question before the House is the passage of House Bill 563 on its second reading. All in favor vote aye, all opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote.

All members please record. Representative Insko, Representative Brown, Rayne Brown. Clerk will let machine record the vote. 103 having voted in the affirmative, nine in the negative, House Bill 563 has passed its second reading. Without objection it will be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion or debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of House Bill 563 on its third reading. All in favor say, “Aye.” [SPEAKER CHANGES] Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] All opposed say, “No.” [SPEAKER CHANGES] No. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The ayes have it. House Bill 563 has passed it third reading and will be sent to the Senate. Ladies and gentlemen, I think we have cleared up the question Representative Goodman had back on Senate Bill 712. Therefore without objection, Senate Bill 712 will be read for a third time. Is there an objection? Clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Iler, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To explain the answers… [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thanks, sir. The question Representative Goodman had about a temporarily homebound person is covered in section one of the bill where it says, “A person who has a physician’s letter certifying a severe disability that causes the person to be homebound.” So, if they had this physician’s letter it would cover whoever it is, permanent or temporary. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate. If not the question before the House is the passage of the Senate Committee substitute to Senate Bill 712 on its third reading. All in favor say, “Aye.” [SPEAKER CHANGES] Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] All opposed say, “No.” [SPEAKER CHANGES] No. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The ayes have it. The Senate Committee substitute for Senate Bill 712 has passed its third reading, will be enrolled and sent to the Governor. House Bill 680, the Clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Committee substitute number two for House Bill 680, a bill to be entitled, “An Act to Enact the Jump-Start Our Business Startups Act,” General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Murry, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is a distinct pleasure for me to introduce to the body a concept called “crowdfunding.” It’s a way to take the power of our small businesses and take the power of the Internet to help these small businesses grow, and expand, and capitalize in our state. Startup companies and small businesses play a critical role in creating jobs in our state and the NC Jobs Act that we’re debating today will enable a new way of financing these startup businesses with a new Invest NC Exemption to the Securities Law. This bill has been worked out with the North Carolina Bar Association’s Securities Division as well as the Securities Division at the North Carolina Secretary of State. We’ve been working on this for several months. What this enables is intrastate offerings by in-state businesses to raise money from in-state individuals in $2,000 increments in offerings not to exceed $1 million. In certain instances a business that wants to raise $2 million if they subject themselves to audits can raise money in that capacity as well. This is a game-changer for our small businesses in this state. This models Federal legislation that was sponsored by Congressman McHenry and signed by President Obama around a year ago and the Securities and Exchange Division has been implementing regulations over that past year. The proponents of this legislation would like to see states move faster than the Securities and Exchange Division at the Federal level. This exemption actually expires in 2017. By then the Federal regulations will be in place and this will be a reality across the country. But Kansas has already passed a similar legislation, Georgia has already passed similar legislation and I want North Carolina to be the third state to enable our small businesses to grow, expand and be able to raise capital in this capacity. I’ll be glad to answer any questions. I just sent all the members a Letter of Support of this legislation from the North Carolina Technology Association because they see that if we have a robust startup community in our state it will produce jobs, it will produce innovation, and it will produce economic benefits for our state for many years to come. We need to get on the front-end of this and I would appreciate your support and be glad to answer any questions. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Brody, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak on the bill please. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker and fellow legislators, I ask you to support this. I’m up here kind of representing the construction industry, one of the industries that really have taken it on the chin recently and still…

Guys, there is opportunity out in the construction industry but it's very small, and the reason why is because it's a lack of funds. Two reasons why were having problems, one is, there are lenders that do have money, but they're still reluctant to lend the real estate for the obvious reasons. The second is that there are lenders out there, in particular banks, that are willing to lend money, but federal regulation says that they may have too much real estate on their portfolios as it is. So even if it's a good deal for them, they're not allowed to do it. So I do urge you to support this amendment; it's very good for construction industry, and of the people in construction that I've spoken to,they're all in favor of it. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Robert Brawley, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentleman, I'd like to speak in favor of the bill for two reasons. One, we do need a more creative way to raise funds and work together in North Carolina. This gives a way to do it legally, and I know there is some being done, now, illegally, so this gives them a chance to be legal. So I urge your support for the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of House Committee Substitute Number 2 to House Bill 680 on its second reading. All in favor vote 'Aye', all opposed vote note. The board will open the vote. The clerk will let the machine record the vote. 103 have voted in the affirmative, 1 in the negative. The House Committee Substitute Number 2 to House Bill 680 has passed its second reading without objection. It will be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Chairman Senator North Caroline ?? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Floyd, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker on House Bill 243, I change my vote to 'No'. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recorded as having voted 'No'. State Representative Fisher, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker, I'd like to be recorded as voting 'No' on House Bill 243. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady will be recorded as voting 'No'. Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of House Committee substitute 2 to House Bill 680 on its third reading. All in favor say 'Aye'. All opposed say 'No'. The Ayes appear to have it. The Ayes do have it. The House Committee Substitute Number 2 to House Bill 680 has passed its third reading. It will be sent to the Senate. Senate Bill 168 the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House Committee Substitute for Senate Bill 168, a bill ?? enact to eliminate unnecessary reports and clarify current education program requirements. Gentleman Senator of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Whitmire, please state you purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. I'll ask everybody just to please support it, Senate Bill 168. This is the work that reflects quite a few members of this chamber in some bills that we passed unanimously. The Representatives Langdon, Johnson, Glazier, Martin, and myself worked with multiple superintendents and educators from around the state to do some ed. reform and regulatory reform, to ultimately get rid of some obsolete or archaic reporting, and with many of the new tools that we have at the state level, to basically enable our educators at the local level to be more effective and efficient, and to spend their time more effectively in the classroom. And with that, Mr. Speaker, I will also mention that I'll be glad to yield to Representative Murry who has some additional input. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Murry, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To send for an amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to send forth an amendment. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Murry moves to amend the bill on page 11, lines 27 to 28 by inserting the following: [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker. I've been working on teacher paperwork reduction since I was in my freshman year, and my mom's a schoolteacher, and this amendment comes from the fruit of some of that labor that wasn't able to get included in this bill. It moved faster than I could catch up to it. I worked this out with Senator Tucker who's the primary sponsor of the Senate bill. And in this amendment, we have a requirement that we have a strategy for improving student performance. So this includes a number 8, and that strategy too include a plan to identify and eliminate unnecessary and redundant reporting requirements for teachers, and to streamline the school's reporting system. Additionally, each school has a school improvement team, and the school improvement team, it adds language that allows the school improvement team to request the Superintendent consider...

...elimination of some of these redundant reporting requirements. The teachers association have worked on this legislation. This is actually the content which is in House Bill 643, which several of us have sponsored, along with Representative Blust, Representative Brandon, Representative Cotham. And so I just wanted to add this language to this because it's consistent and I would ask for your support of the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Whitmire, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speak on the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] And again, I ask you to support this amendment. I think it might actually be 483, and if I'm correct on that 35 people either were primary co-sponsors of that and it's considerably bi-partisan, so look at 483 if you have any concerns. But this is yet another improvement and I ask you to support it. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate on the amendment? If not, the question before the House is the passage of the amendment sent forth by Representative Murry for the House Committee Substitute for Senate Bill 168. All in favor vote aye, all opposed vote no. The Clerk will open the vote. The Clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. One hundred and five having voted in the affirmative, none in the negative. The amendment passes. We're back on the bill. Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of the House Committee Substitute to Senate Bill 168, as amended, on its second reading. All in favor vote aye, all opposed vote no. The Clerk will open the vote. The Clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. One hundred and four having voted in the affirmative, one in the negative. The House Committee Substitute for Senate Bill 168, as amended, has passed its second reading without objection. It will be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of the House Committee Substitute to Senate Bill 168, as amended, on its third reading. All in favor say aye, all opposed say no. The ayes have it. The House Committee Substitute to Senate Bill 168, as amended has passed its third reading. The bill will be engrossed and returned to the Senate. Senate Bill 490, the Clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House Committee Substitute for Senate Bill 490, a bill to be entitled An Act to Exclude Custom Software From Property Tax. The General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Bell, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] You heard the Clerk's title. This does exactly what it does. We're the only State in the country that abides by this and this would change it to put us in line with everyone else. And after the remarks from Representative Bumgardner yesterday, I would ask you to please, please, please vote for the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Arp, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To be recorded as voting no on House Bill 529. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman will be recorded as voting no on 129. 529. Representative Luebke, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To see if Representative Bell would yield for a question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Bell, does the gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Certainly. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Bell, ask you if you know why the fiscal, I looked at the fiscal memo on this and it indicates that the staff is unable to determine any impact on the counties. Do you know why we would be doing this? I mean in other words, has there been any negative impact that industry has reported to you about our having this in place? And I ask you that because it seems to me that we are extending here another tax loophole. We're taking this out of the tax base. So I just wondered why would we be doing that? [SPEAKER CHANGES] If it's OK with the member, I'd like to yield to someone that's a little more on the expertise on the financial side of this bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] That would be fine with me. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Howard, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the bill and try to answer Representative Luebke's question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields? The lady is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Luebke, we looked at this for a long, long time before we made a decision and I believe you'll find on your desk a map. And if you look at that map you're going to...yes, sir. That's it. You're going to find that we are the only State in the nation in the way that we do. There's about five counties now that are imposing the tax and in the bill you will also see that the effective date has been moved out to July 2014, which compensates for any budget issues that have been brought to our attention. And the County Commissioners Association has agreed to this provision.

thank you Rep. Howard, I appreciate that. Speak briefly? [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. I appreciate the- It's kind of a low-tech copy and so it's actually not possible to see what's what on here, but I appreciate the effort to give us a handout. Members, I remember this issue that's come up again and again in finance over the years, and we're just chipping away at the tax base here on ??? computer software. We've done it time and time again, and it's hard to find a reason, I don't know of any business I've heard of in Durham county that has said we're not going to stay in Durham county because we're having to pay tax on this, so it's just hard for me to see why we should keep doing this. We all pledged, I thought we all pledged to stop extending loopholes. Rep. Howard, you and I know that actually I appreciate your point that we're the only state that does it, we also know that some of us are proud that we're the only state not to have the lottery, and voters continue to oppose it. So that's not persuasive to me. I can't support this, and also Rep. Bell, I just would like to check with Durham county, because I'm sure we're affected in some way because we're such a high tech county. So I'm just going to object to third and it won't matter much, but I'd like to find out from the county. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Rep. Robert Brawley, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I'd encourage you to support this bill. What we're doing is clearing up the interpretation of what kind of software can be taxed. And all the counties of North Carolina I believe, at least I haven't heard different, tax commercial software which can be bought and sold anywhere. What this bill applies to in 5 counties, and Iredell county happens to be one of them, is collecting a tax from the corporations on self-customized software. I've got a large corporation in the county, they have customized software for their particular kind of business on top of the commercial software they bought just to have a program. Then they customized so that it would accommodate their kind of business, and it's worth millions of dollars, and they're being taxed on it. It has no market value, nobody else is gonna want to use it, they won't sell it, but yet they're being charged a tax on it. It affects 5 counties, and this just clears, the way I look at it, this just clears up the interpretation of what we meant when we said software was a property and would be property taxed. This is custom software that has no market value, and we're taxing it in some cases. I urge you to support the bill. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Rep. Hager, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker. You know, each one of you that we've been getting a lot of data centers in North Carolina. I do, I have Facebook, I have state backup data center, I know a lot of you folks have some in your counties. This would directly have a positive effect on those folks. They get a piece of software, they have to customize it to what they do, nobody else can use it for what they do, and then they get taxed because they made it easier to do to work with what they do. This is akin to any of us buying a new car or new truck, then going out there and painting our initials on the side, and all of a sudden it gets taxed more. That's about what we're talking about. So please support the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Rep. Bill Brawley, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, I was sitting here thoroughly enjoying the debate and realizing having written custom software for a number of years, that it made more sense to me than it probably made to a lot of people, so I want to take a quick analogy if I can. Let's assume for a moment that this body were a business. They brought us a computer, that's property tax, it would be taxed. They brought us Excel, and Word, and a lot of things from Microsoft, and that's property and it would be taxed. And then they hired somebody to do the dashboard, so that we can see our bills. It's not a product for resale, it's unique, it's something that we do for what we do here. That's paid labor. So it's taxed as income to the other people, but in 5 counties in North Carolina are the only places in America where they say you have to pay property tax on that application that you wrote to help your computer do something a little different. That's what we're talking about. It's not really a product, it's not really property, it's just the intellectually fruits of somebody customizing it to allow us to do something specific. The only thing we would be exempting on our setup here would be the dashboard software. Everything else would still be taxed. I support the bill.

Further discussion, further debate. If not, the question before the House is the passage of the House Committee substitute to Senate Bill 490 on its second reading. All in favor, vote Aye. All opposed, vote No. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will let the machine record the vote. 95 having voted in the affirmative, 8 in the negative; the House Committee substitute to Senate Bill 490 has passed its second reading and will remain on the calendar. Ladies and Gentlemen, we displaced after reading Senate Bill 709 and it is now properly before us. Representative Adams, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I’d like to be recorded No on 243. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady be recorded as having vote No on 243. Representative Iler, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the 709. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Actually, Mr. Speaker, I’d like to yield to Representative Jordan for an amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Jordan is recognized to send forth an amendment. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Jordan moves to amend the bill on page 1 line 26 by re-writing that line to read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do support Senate Bill 709 but I was having some questions about it because I do a few traffic tickets up in the mountains. And then I got an email from my friend, Representative Jackson who spelled out exactly what I needed to help clarify exactly what the problem was. The problem is, if we move some speed limits to 75, we have 80 miles per hour in a number of our statutes, a number of our penalties and it could create some contradictory situations. For example, under this bill if you got an 81 on a 75 which is 6 miles over, and we’re convicted for that, your license will be revoked for 30 days, you get 4 insurance point. But under the same bill, if you were convicted for an 80 on a 70 which is 10 miles over, and we’re convicted, there’s no license revocation; you’d only get 2 point. So there’s some problems here and my amendment, if the body agrees to it, is to change everywhere we have 80 mentioned, move it up 5 as well to 85. So that that would help fix this anomaly. And that’s what the amendment does. That’s literally all it does. I’ll be glad to answer questions but really, it’s a policy decision for you about this anomaly. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Iler, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak on the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, I’ve had about half of my friends that thought it was a good idea to leave the 80 on and about a half wanted to extend it to 85 so that it wouldn’t be as many tickets and my attorney friends are trying to explain that it might be a jobless bill for them. However, I do see the problem and I do support the amendment. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Pierce, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To change a vote, I’m sorry it’s ??. 243, No please. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Gentleman be recorded as voting No on 243. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Glazier, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the amendment, Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. Although I remain adamantly opposed to the bill, I do support the amendment. The amendment in a sense is exactly why I am opposing the bill. But as a legal matter, it makes perfect sense and it does fix if this bill is gonna pass, the legal issue and so I would recommend that the amendment be supported and we’ll speak to the bill later. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Mobley, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Change my vote on 243 to No. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady be recorded as having voted No on 243. Representative Jackson, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To ask the amendment sponsor, a question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Jordan, does the gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes, I do. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Representative Jordan. I appreciate you addressed some of the things in my email. However, if I read this amendment correctly, this would apply no matter what DoT does with raising some speed limits from 70 to 75. Is that correct? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes sir. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Okay and Mr. Speaker, follow up. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes. [SPEAKER CHANGES] And so, if the DoT was to never raise the speed limit to 75, we would still be changing a policy where currently an 81 on a 70, we take your license but under your amendment that would change.

thank you mister speaker ?? i do not want to change my word on 243 mister speaker but i do want to support my amendment about this ?? ?? window and i think this is a good amendment ?? to support for those we are considering change ?? ?? without changing the outcome ?? please take your purpose ?? well i decided i am against him when i was 4 i believe in the change but i didn't catch ?? much more ?? put a change across the board ?? ?? the ?? limit change but not if there is no change that's just creating more license to speed and like representing jackson's action actually right so switching my position in America for a minute, thank you. [speaker change] representative one please take your purpose [speaker change] to speak to the ?? ?? ?? was seventy miles an hour it has always been predetermined that a excess of ten miles above the speed limit work period of action then getting it all add to an additional of five miles per hour from seventy to seventy five hours per hour should require i think a strict ?? to the speed limit ?? tolerance but ?? vote against the bill work for the ?? [speaker change] representative ?? please take your purpose [speaker change] ?? and authorize speeding and not loosing your driver's license does you ensure us ?? fro that reason i am not gonna work for America [speaker change] further discussion for the debate ?? ?? [speaker change] 49 in the affirmative and 54 in the negative in the ?? fails we are now back on the bill representative ?? please take your purpose [speaker change] ?? [speaker change] ?? voted no ?? [speaker change] through the discussion ?? [speaker change] representative ?? please take your purpose [speaker change] i am going to do ?? speech [speaker change] representative lary hall please take your purpose [speaker change] mister speaker i want to change my word 243 but i just ?? on this bill ?? as amended, as not amended, mister speaker the concern that i had, the reason i vote no on the bill is i am not sure nor convinced there is enough ?? when determining speed limit to the technology changes and the distractions ?? to the automobile, i recognize that the determination ?? and our hope that we were not evoke for this, provide them more specific ?? as what should be considered again i am not convinced that the fact of distraction we have because of more built in technology in our view ?? is going to be properly considered for making a determination ?? that is the reason i voted against the bill [speaker change] mister speaker [speaker change] ?? [speaker change] mister speaker put a hold please [speaker change]?? the lady instructor, the lady may state a point [speaker change] i just wanted to inquire the

that 6 lights and 5 miles an hour keep us from going home [SPEAKER CHANGES]Chair is not clear about that point but he's sympathetic to it. Representative Avila please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the bill [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] We've heard a lot of discussion about the improvements and upgrades in our technology of our automobiles and our roads. There's one factor however which we unfortunately cannot say that has been upgraded and improved over the years and that's human beings. We're still driving with the same kind of reflexes and the same kind of distractions and the same kinds of not paying attention to what we're doing and to give you an idea at 75 miles an hour to begin to brake to get stopped is 302 feet plus. I travel I95 a lot hopefully that is not going to be a road that they will upgrade the speed on because what I've seen on that road over the years is horrific. Not just in what happens when 2 vehicles meet each other but the delays and the interference in people's lives because of the miles long of the traffic blocks that happen. 5 miles is not worth the inconvenience and the cost of life. If we're in that big a hurry people, we have come too far. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES]Ladies and gentlemen upon motion of Representative Murry chair's happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to crowd funding advocate from Morrisville Mark Easley. Mark please stand and let us welcome you. Representative Murry please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES]To debate the bill [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill [SPEAKER CHANGES] My sister is an engineer. We've got 4 engineers in this body. This bill does not require the DOT to post 75 miles per hour speed limits on any particular segment on any freeway. This bill simply allows the engineering professionals at the DOT to consider an increase after conducting an engineering traffic study on a case by case basis. If we're trying to take the politics out of road building let's take the politics out of setting the speed limit and let our engineers determine whether a road is safe enough to drive 75 miles per hour. My sister tells me in her engineering studies the safe speed of a road is the speed at which 75% of drivers drive on that road and if that speed is unsafe then you change the road conditions to make it visually unappealing to drive that speed. Our freeways are wide open. They are safe roads. I think we should let the engineers at DOT do their job and I'd ask that you support this bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Robert Brawley please state your purpose [SPEAKER CHANGES] To ask Representative Murry a question [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Murry does the gentleman yield [SPEAKER CHANGES] I yield [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Murry does that mean that 75 miles an hour will put us any closer to crowd funding [SPEAKER CHANGES] There is no rational relationship for that question or between crowd funding or speed limits [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Dollar please state your purpose [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the bill [SPEAKER CHANGES] Gentleman is recognized to debate the bill [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker members of the house. Let me just first say that for those who have talked about the engineering and those who have talked about getting the politics out of roads and all that sort of stuff. Let me just say this I would be fine if what this bill did was to set up a study about how we determine speed limits, how we determine how we utilize these lanes. For example I was up in Michigan last year and they have an interesting thing they do on their interstates. If you are a truck and you're out on the interstate you stay over in the right hand lane you can only drive on the right hand lane. And the cars can drive in the left hand lane and you can drive 10 miles an hour faster just on the regular interstates up there. I would be perfectly fine to say okay let's

have the General Assembly authorize a study of how all the various and sundry states set their speed limits and set their driving conditions, and come back to this General Assembly with some sort of package of recommendations for changes or no changes. That would be fine. But what we're doing here is we're making one specific change from the 70 to the 75. And I realize that a number of people here have been to the Richard Petty driving experience, a number of you have turned a lane down at the Charlotte Motor Speedway and that's wonderful. And you know how to drive fast, and some of you have cars that drive very fast and you prove it on Mondays and Thursdays. But what I'm concerned about is a lot of other individuals out there, and I'll just give you one example: I knew a young man. Two Aprils ago, we were down at Camp Body, down east, and there were about 1200 boy scouts there, and this young man had just been elected to be the chief, to be the head of all these boy scouts, a statewide organization. And I had the occasion on that Saturday afternoon to stand under a tree and talk to his dad. And his dad was very proud of him, his dad talked about his plan for the future, the young man was a rising senior, planning on going to college, extremely talented, his parents were very proud of him, he had the world to look forward to. And then a few short weeks later I pick up the newspaper and he was killed in an automobile accident involving high speed one Saturday morning while he was trying to get to work. And I think about his life and I think about his dad talking to me about all the plans he had which will not be there. My concern is this: There are people who can drive, bump it up another 5 miles, we know that it's going up to 85 if we do this. But there are a lot of other people out there, far too many unfortunately for us, who are not capable of handling those traditional speeds. And I have great trepidation about us passing this legislation and I would urge you to vote no. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Rep. Starnes, state your purpose? [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] You have the floor. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker. Ladies and gentlemen of the House, when I was at home this past weekend I went over to my parents' house and my mother rarely comments on anything that's going on down here in Raleigh. She hasn't asked about tax reform, the budget, any of these other issues. But she'd heard about this bill about allowing you to drive 75 on the highways. And she said "Have you folks completely lost your mind?" Now I think that's probably a pretty good barometer what the people are thinking out there. I think a lot of just the regular citizens are thinking "Have you lost your mind?" The highways are not safe places to be on anyway. My daughter just got her driver's license this week at the age of 16, and yet it scares me that we're going to give an inexperienced driver the opportunity to go 75 miles on any highway. Yes, engineers can design highways but this bill didn't come at the request of the DOT, because engineers had done a study and said "Oh, I think we can authorize certain segments of the highways to be 75," this bill came as a result of a politician who wanted to go faster on the highway. Now the people at the DOT can read the tea leaves, and when the General assembly passes a bill that says we're going to authorize you to do this, you can rest assured they will feel authorized to do that. Whether they know what's going on, they understand the will of the General Assembly. But folks, you just- I've been on the interstate, I've been 70, I've been 75, people will whiz by you, but that doesn't make it any safer. We can raise the speed limit 5 miles per hour, but we're talking about the carnage on the highways going up exponentially. When there's a wreck on the highways going at these rates of speed, it's disastrous. We're so concerned about making sure that a motorcycle rider has a helmet on, we wouldn't take away that right because we're concerned about the public safety, we're gonna need helmets, body armor, and everything else to go down the highway at

...75 miles an hour when you have a wreck, because you're not going to be safe. I was speaking to my seatmate here who's been retired from the insurance business. He says you can pass this bill and it's going to affect the automobile insurance rate of every bright driver in the State of North Carolina because they've got to start factoring in these higher speeds to your rates. So whether you go that fast or not, your automobile insurance is going to go up because they're going to have to recalculate the damages and the risk of driving higher. I don't think that's what the folks of this State want. I'd ?? my mother if we pass this, I think we've lost our mind. Vote no. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Warren, for what purpose do you rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak to the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The floor is yours. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I don't have a personal story to tell, although my daughter did just get her license and I'm more concerned about not her going 75 miles an hour but people around her in various conditions of health unbeknownst to themselves, subject to passing out or losing control of their car. I'd like her be in the thick of that. I usually ask myself when I get bills I haven't seen before, what's the purpose of this bill? Where did it come from? And several people have touched on some of the aspects that I've looked at considering this. Representative Avila, that you know, she made the point that you could just leave five minutes earlier, you'll save as much time or more than you'd make by trying to go 5 miles an hour faster. I think that after 70 miles an hour you're not really driving a car, you're aiming it. I don't share my colleague, Representative Murry's confidence in DOT. I think they do a great job but these are the people that gave us a roundabout down here in Hillsboro and promptly within 12 months we had 84 accidents. So I don't think they're any more of a brain trust than we are here in the General Assembly. I think we've all heard the old adage at eight you skate, at nine you're mine. It's always attributed to a Highway Patrol attitude towards you going over the speed limit a little bit, but there's a wink and a nod if the speed limits 70, you feel pretty safe going 75. If it's 75, do you feel safe going 83? Would you feel safer if the amendment had passed because you know you got a little more latitude. It's almost like ad hoc pardon to go at any rate of speed. I think there are too many variables on the highway besides your individual capability to control a car at 75 miles an hour that we have to consider. Imagine it was 25 years from now and the medicinal marijuana bill passed and you're out there on a highway of people and there are different levels of control. So I just seriously think that there's too many variables to take into consideration of the other drivers on the highway to raise that speed limit up 5 miles an hour. Again, going back to what is the purpose of the bill, what does it accomplish, I see no valid reason for doing this whatsoever. I encourage you to vote no for the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Bumgardner, for what purpose do you rise? [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate this bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. I urge you to support this bill. We're giving people the freedom to make decisions for themselves. The DOT has rooms full of attorneys and engineers to decide whether certain highways are safe or not. We're not going to make the speed limit 75 on Jones Street or Lane. It's going to be certain interstate highways that are engineered for that speed. They're engineered for more than that speed. And they know it and you can ask them. I know this because I have built roads and we all know people that have been, had to go through horrible tragedies and to use that to speak against this bill is a bit of an emotional play. This bill is about whether we're going to allow the DOT to make a decision about the speed on certain sections of highways. Not every road of the State. Certain interstates. And I think that that's what we should allow them to do. I urge your support. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Tim Moore, for what purpose do you wish to be recognized? [SPEAKER CHANGES] For a motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Please state your motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Madam Chair, at the request of the bill's sponsor and sort of getting some feed from folks, it sounds like it's a good bill, but may need a little more work. Would move that the bill be referred to the committee on transportation. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore's motion to re-refer the bill to transportation is before us. Having been duly seconded. All those in favor vote aye, all those opposed vote no.

Madame Clerk will open the vote. Madame Clerk will lock the vote. 73 having voted in the affirmative, 19 in the negative, the motion carries and the bill is re-referred to Transportation. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Notices are in and out - we've got a notice the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Office of the Speaker House Select Committee on Ways and Means, Section 1: the House Select Committee on Ways and Means is established by the Speaker of the House of Representatives pursuant to Rule 26 of the Rules of the House of Representatives of the 2013 General Assembly. Section 2: the Committee shall consist of the members listed below appointed by the Speaker of the House of Representatives, members shall serve at the pleasure of the Speaker of the House of Representatives, the Speaker of the House of Representatives may dissolve the committee at any time. Representative Charles Jeter, Chair; Representatives Tim Moore, David Lewis, Mike C. Stone, Susan Martin, William T. Brisson, Ken Goodman, Marcus Brandon, Jeff Collins, Justin P. Burr, Roger West, Susie H. Hamilton, effective this 20th day of June, 2013, Thom Tillis, Speaker of the House. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative McGrady, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speaker, on the motion that we just voted on, I need to be recorded as voting "Aye". [SPEAKER CHANGES] Gentleman will be recorded as voting "Aye" on the motion. Representative Charles Graham, please state your purpose. Representative Murray ?? 4th Committee ??, the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Murray for the Commerce and Job Development Committee, Senate Bill 127: Customer Service, Economic Development and Transportation, favorable as the House Committee substitute, unfavorable as the Senate Committee substitute and serially referred to Transportation. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Ladies and gentlemen, the referral to Transportation was stricken yesterday, the House Committee substitute is re-referred to the Committee on Appropriation, Subcommittee NER, Senate committee substitute unfavorable calendar. Representative Hager is recognized ?? 4th Committee ??, clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Hager for Public Utilities and Energy, Senate Bill 379: Weight Limits, Animal Feed Trucks, favorable as the House Committee substitute, unfavorable as the to the ?? Bill, and serially referred to Finance. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The House Committee substitute be re-referred to the Committee on Finance, original bill, unfavorable calendar. Pages, if you'll please come forward to the head of the chamber, and those at the dais, if you'll please step down momentarily. While the pages are re-assembling, further notices and announcements? Representative Moore, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] A motion pertaining to today's calendar. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for a motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, move that House Bill 614, short title "North Carolina Agriculture and Forestry" be added to today's calendar for immediate consideration, if I could briefly explain to the members why we needed to do that. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Gentleman is recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Members, this is gonna be a motion by Representative Ramsay not to concur, and the thought was to go ahead and allow folks to try come up with the language on that, so that's the reason to the purpose of adding this bill to today's calendar. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Pages, I'd like to thank you for your service to the House this week. I hope you got an opportunity to learn a little bit more about what we do and speed limits, and I hope you had an opportunity to make some friendships that'll carry on beyond this week, and I also encourage you to share your stories with your friends and brothers and sisters and encourage them to come back and serve this body. Members, let's show our thanks to the pages for their service. Ladies and gentlemen, to clear - and pages, you are now...

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June or July might have 45 days could you pin down is that 4th of July in 2013 or 14? [Speaker Change] The chair would just like to point out that every day that we are here I think at this point, is a day too long, we are working very hard and just on a serious note that the two main things that we are continuing to work on is the discussions with the Senate regarding tax reform. We have made progress we are hopeful we will be able to have a result in the very near future and we will begin conferencing the budget just so that you all know that because of the time it is probably worth mentioning we probably will take up a continuing resolution next week. And the reason for that is to provide some certainty going into the week because of our obligation to pass the budget or have a continuing resolution by June. I've conferred with the Senate and we've agreed that we will take up a continuing resolution early next week. But the goal really is to try and get the bill or get the budget conferenced out next week, no later than the following week and I'm optimistic that we can do that. Representative Floyd, please state your purpose. [Speaker Change] Mr. Speaker, inquiry with the chair [Speaker Change] The gentleman may state his inquiry [Speaker Change] I'm sitting back here sort of nervous I don't know whether you are going to do it or Representative Moore is gonna do it, For us to give us the calendar for next week cause I'm nervous. [Speaker Change] The gentleman is well founded in his concern. The, in all seriousness, next week could be a difficult week, We may need to have session for the purposes of clearing the calendar because there are a number of bills going between the two chambers but I would request that the members please not make any plans we may need to move the session around so we can accommodate conferencing that we hope will begin in earnest probably the first part of next week Tuesday. And I think though it could make for a long week and it could possibly be a week that involves a Friday session. Representative Michaux, please state your purpose. [Speaker Change] Just a point of personal privilege, I think Mr. Speaker because it involves you, so Somebody [Speaker Change] The gentleman is recognized for a point of personal privilege. [Speaker Change] It was just said that you were growing your beard until you thought we were gonna you know it would be short, most folks think you gonna be playing Santa Claus. [Speaker Change] Representative Michaux, I'm willing to but hopefully not going down the duck dynasty route. Representative Tim Moore, please state your purpose. [Speaker Change] For a motion. [Speaker Change] The gentleman is recognized for a motion. [Speaker Change] Mr. Speaker, move that the house be now adjourned and reconvene on Monday June 24th at 7:00pm. Subject to receipt of messages from the Senate, committee reports, conference reports, re-referral bills and resolutions, appointment of conferees and modifications to the calendar. [Speaker Change] Representative Moore's move is seconded by Representative Langdon that the house is now adjourned subject to receipt of messages from the Senate, receipt of committee reports, conference reports, re-referral bills and resolutions, appointment of conferees and modifications to the calendar. To reconvene on Monday June 24th at 7:00pm. All in favor say aye, all opposed say no. The aye's have it, the house stands adjourned.