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House | June 17, 2013 | Chamber | Session

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The prayer will be offered by the Reverend Representative Shepard. Members and visitors in the gallery, will you please stand and remain standing for the Pledge of Allegiance. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Let's pray. Our gracious, heavenly father, we just want to come to you now and we want to thank you and we want to praise you for all your blessings that you give us each and every day and we thank you for the safe travel we all had to get back here today and we thank you for the fact that we were born in this great nation, in this great country. We pray as we attempt to be leaders, Lord, that you will help us to be statesmen, not politicians. Lord we pray for your wisdom, your guidance in all the discussions that we make, that it will bring honor and glory to you, as we each are to bring honor and glory to you with the way that we live our lives and the difference we make in Peoples lives. Lord, I pray a special prayer for our nation, for our leaders, for our congress, for our president, and for each and everyone of us here, and for our families and our military men and women wherever they may be, that you'll protect them, put a hedge of protection around each of us, and bless us in a mighty way, and we thank you for all these things that only you can give us. In Christ's name we pray. Amen. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic, for which it stands. One nation, under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore is recognized [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, the journal for Tuesday, June 13, 2013 has been examined and found to be correct. I move it's approval as written. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore moves that the journal for June 13 be approved as written. All those in favor say aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Aye [SPEAKER CHANGES] All opposed say no. [SPEAKER CHANGES] No [SPEAKER CHANGES] The ayes have it. The journal is approved as written. Petitions, memorials, or papers addressed to the general assembly of the house. Ratification of bills and resolutions. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The enrolling clerk reports the following resolutions duly ratified, properly enrolled and presented to the Office of the Secretary of State, House Joint Resolution 271 Joint Resolution Providing for the Confirmation of the Appointment of Don M. Bailey to the Utilities Commission. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Chapter bills be noted. Messages from the senate. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senate committee substitute for House Bill 219 a bill to be entitled, "An Act to Modernize the Ways Children Born Out of Wedlock Are Referenced." [SPEAKER CHANGES] Calendared pursuant rule 36B [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senate committee substitute for House Bill 331 a bill to be entitled, "An Act To Stabilize Titles and to Provide a Uniform Procedure to Enforce Claims of Lien Securing Sums Due Condominium and Planned Community Associations." [SPEAKER CHANGES] Calendared pursuant rule 36B [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senate committee substitute for House Bill 597 a bill to be entitled, "An Act to Approve an Official Shield for Bail Bondsman ." [SPEAKER CHANGES] Calendared pursuant rule 36B [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senate committee substitute for House Bill 641 a bill to be entitled, "An Act to Provide That a Court Has the Discretion to Determine Whether to Grant a Conditional Discharge for a First Offense of Certain Drug Offenses." [SPEAKER CHANGES] Calendared pursuant rule 36B [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senate committee substitute for House Bill 649 a bill to be entitled, "An Act to Make Technical Changes to the Small Employer Group Health Coverage Reform Act to Mitigate the Effects of the Federal Affordable Care Act on North Carolina's Small Businesses and to Increase Loss Insurance Options for Smaller Employers." [SPEAKER CHANGES] Transportation and Favorable Finance Committee. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senate committee substitute for House Bill 571 a bill to be entitled, "An Act to Authorize the Department of Motor Vehicles to issue Various Special Registration Plates and Amend Provisions for Special Registration Plates." [SPEAKER CHANGES] Transportation and Favorable Finance, strike the referral on House Bill 649. Calendared pursuant rule 36B. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Moore, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I Speak for a motion pertaining to tonight's calendar. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senate Bill 111, short title, "Clinton/Use Design-Build Method," I move that that bill be removed from the Committee on Finance and be calendared for tomorrow pursuant rule 36b. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Without objection, so ordered. [SPEAKER CHANGES] And House Resolution 50, "Honor Don East," that that be removed from the Committee on Rules and Calendared for tomorrow. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Without objection, so ordered. [SPEAKER CHANGES] And House Bill 861, that that resolution be removed from the Rules Committee and calendared for a session tomorrow also. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Without objection, so ordered. [SPEAKER CHANGES] And then a motion for tonight's calendar. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, I move that House Resolution 835 who's short title is. "Honoring Deputy Warren Lewis," be removed from the Committee on Rules and be placed on tonight's calendar for immediate consideration. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Without objection, so ordered.

Ladies and gentleman, we're moving to the resolution that was just placed on the calendar for immediate consideration. The House will come to order. Members, please take your seats. House Resolution 835, the clerk will read. And the clerk will read in its entirety. [speaker change] House Resolution 835. House Resolution honoring the life and memory of Warren Basco "Sneak" Louis III, fallen Nash county Sheriff's deputy. The House resolves. Whereas Warren Basco "Sneak" Louis III, a lifelong resident of Nash County, North Carolina, served as deputy for the Nash County Sheriff's Office for over nine years. Three of which as an Investigator for the United States Marshall Service Violent Fugitive Task Force in the eastern district of North Carolina. Whereas Investigator Lewis was a dedicated law enforcement officer who was especially proud of his work with the Marshall Service and was admired by his peers and the members of his community. And whereas Warren Lewis was an avid water skier who enjoyed spending time in the water. And whereas on June 9th, 2011, Investigator Lewis was killed in the line of duty while he and another member of the Fugitive Task Force were attempting to serve a murder warrant. And whereas Warren Lewis is survived by his wife Shannon Bailey Lewis, two daughters Lauren Bailey Lewis and Ashley Nicole Lewis, and his parents Warren Basco Lewis, Junior and Ann Mitchell Lewis. Now, therefore be it resolved by the House of Representatives. Section One, the House of Representatives honors the memory of Warren Basco "Sneak" Lewis III and expresses the appreciation of this state and its citizens for his service to law enforcement. Section Two, the House of Representatives extends its deepest sympathy to the family of Warren Basco "Sneak" Lewis III for the loss of a beloved family member. Section Three, the principle clerk will transmit a certified copy of this resolution to the family of Warren Basco "Sneak" Lewis III. Section Four, this resolution is effective upon adoption. [Speaker Change] Representative Collins is recognized to debate the resolution. [Speaker Change] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I stand tonight just to honor the memory of Warren "Sneak" Lewis, as he was known to those who worked with him. Didn't know this man, but I've had the chance to speak to some that have worked with him, including actually one of our sergeant at arms here, Mr. Clyde Cook, served as a Marshall along with Mr. Lewis and had great words of praise for him, as did his other colleagues who I've talked with on the Nash County Sheriff's Department. We're honored to have his family--wife, daughters, parents--here tonight. And it's a shame this man died in the line of duty serving a warrant actually outside of our area. Just one of those senseless things. But he died doing what he liked to do. Serving our community. I'm proud to know folks like this. I'm proud that we have people who are willing to give everything, including their lives to protect the rest of us. I'm just sorry that it has to come to this so often and that it seems like too many times in this chamber we wind up coming to honor those who have died in the line of duty. I'm thankful for those who are willing to do it. Again, I'd like to give my heartfelt sympathy to his family and offer their thanks. I know that a lot of people back home give my wife thanks for letting me come and serve here. And I think that's very appropriate, because she probably sacrifices more than I do to be here. I think the same thing could be said in triplicate of families of law enforcement officers, who allow their loved ones to go out and serve in the most dangerous domestic job you can do. I'd just like to honor them and thank them for being here with us tonight. [Speaker Change] Further discussion, further debate. If not, the question before the House is the adoption of the House Resolution 835. All in favor vote aye, all opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. The clerk will let the machine record the vote. 108 having voted in the affirmative, none in the negative. The resolution has been adopted and will ordered printed. Ladies and gentlemen of the House, the Chair wishes to recognize Shannon Lewis, wife of Officer Lewis, his daughters Lauren and Ashley, and his

parents Warren and Ann Lewis and Nicole McHenry please stand and please accept our heartfelt condolences. {Speaker Changes}Mr Speaker [Speaker Changes]Representor Moore please state your purpose. [Speaker Changes] I would like to be asked to be recognized for two motions pertaining to tonight's calendar. [Speaker Changes] The Gentlemen is recognized for a motion. [Speaker Changes] Mr Speaker the first bill on the calender House Bill 60, Transferring Indian Culture Center asked that that be removed from tonight's calendar and calendar from next Monday. [Speaker Changes] Without Objection, so ordered. [Speaker Changes] And Mr Speaker Senate Bill 635 which is also on tonight's calendar, I believe that is is on the end of the calendar on page 3, if you would remove that to Wednesday please. [Speaker Changes] Without objection, so ordered. House Bill 223 the clerk will read. [Speaker Changes] Senate Committee for House Bill 223 a bill to ?? an act exempting electric membership corporations from integrated resource planning and service regulation requirements established by the Utilities Commission returning oversight of the corporations to their member board of directors and clarifying the authority of North Carolina rule electrification authority to receive and investigate complaints from members of electric membership corporations. [Speaker Changes] Representative Presnell please state your purpose. [Speaker Changes] To speak on the bill. [Speaker Changes] The lady is recognized for a motion and to debate the motion. [Speaker Changes} Yes, this is only to this bill that concur I want you to concur it moves the North Carolina's rural electrification authority's power from administrative code to statute and its just a simple thing and I appreciate it, thank you. [Speaker Changes]Further discussion, further debate on the motion? Representative Wilkins please state your purpose. [Speaker Changes] To see if the Lady would yield, Mr Speaker [Speaker Changes] Representative Presnell, does the Lady yield? [Speaker Changes}Yes I will [Speaker Changes} The Lady yields. {Speaker Changes] Representative Presnell, what is the difference now that this bill has come back to us from the Senate? [Speaker Changes] It only makes sure that the statute is being, that exactly according to statute. Administrative things. [Speaker Changes] So follow up please Mr Speaker [Speaker Changes} Does the Lady yield? The Lady yields. {Speaker Changes] So its a technical change? [Speaker Changes] Technical change, yeah its nothing [Speaker Changes] Thank you, thank you [Speaker Changes] It's good [Speaker Changes] Further discussion, further debate? If not the question before the House is concurrent Senate committee substitute for House Bill 223 All in favor vote Aye, All opposed Vote No. The clerk will open the vote. The Clerk will open the machine and record the vote 109 having voted affirmative none in the negative, The House has concurred to the Senate subcommittee to House Bill 223. The Bill will be enrolled and sent to the Governor by special message. House Bill 240 The clerk will read. [Speaker Changes] Senate committee for House Bill 240 a bill to compile an act expand the choices for health insurance in North Carolina by exempting health insurance companies from outdated risk exposure requirements [Speaker Changes] Representative Dockham please state your purpose [Speaker Changes] Make a motion to the Speaker. [Speaker Changes] ?? is represented to make a motion and to debate the motion. [Speaker Changes] Thank you Mr Speaker I move that we do concur with the Senate changes, all that the Senate did was add language to makes it clearer that our Commissioner of Insurance has the authority to enforce the federal regulations that apply to the affordable care health insurance act. This is just clarifying language I know of no opposition and I move that we do concur with the Senate committee substitute. Be happy to answer any questions. [Speaker Changes] Further discussion, further debate on the motion? If there is not the question before the House is concurrence with the Senate committee substitute for House Bill 240. All in favor vote Aye, all opposed vote no, the Clerk will open the vote. The Clerk will open the machine and record the vote. 108 having voted in the affirmative, none in the negative The House has concurred with the Senate committee substitute to House Bill 240. The bill will be enrolled and sent to the Governor by special message.

Ladies and gentlemen of the house upon motion of representation of Sen. Lewis and on behalf of all members the chair are happy to extend the courtesy to of gallery to the 14th air support operations squadron of hope army airfield at ?? these members of the active duty Air Force are the eyes on the battlefield he got a task force rights to successful attack critical targets on the ground we think we thank them for their service their sacrifice and their willingness to carry the torch for those who cannot please stand and let us welcome you house Bill 248 [SPEAKER CHANGES] committees ?? for house bill 248 will enact disclosure on the ballot that authorization of indebtedness includes a interest taxes may be livid be repaid to the indebted[SPEAKER CHANGES] the clerk will read the ammendment[SPEAKER CHANGES] we do member House Bill 248 ?? unsteadily boosted the bill on page 2 line 47 by deleting should be senator rosscenter promoted to ?? Please state your purpose[SPEAKER CHANGES] make a motion [SPEAKER CHANGES] place right is from others in his right margin at all when I met the ?? With ?? just had an effective date in case they were sound like a community that were in the middle of the Bonn agreement reserves have a simplistic purpose[SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. semenan please state your purpose out in the chamber listing query they want to 40 ?? Records voting on concurrent but from the discussion further by if not a question for the house's concurrence in the Senate amendment to the house results are browsable through 48 all but I all those ???? Over the lot you for the 110 at a affirmative nod in the negative the house as incurred as an amendment to the House committee substitute ?? to 48 the building role to the government special message possible to 55 the corporate Senate committees that you perhaps real to 58 to 55 the penultimate to provide that certain courses in academic credit hours transferred to the state clinician to be included in the calculation of credit hours for purposes of to a surcharge and require that uniform procedures be implemented in the rest of north carolina system to provide appropriate advance notice is that when the student is approaching the credit hour limit regarding the tuition surcharge is a pleasure percentage of purpose set forth a motion at the debate about it is recognized to make a motion of the right margin that your much[SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker members this those other different than it left unanimously from the house because it differs slightly from a corollary house education appropriations provision of its in the budget I would move the house do not concur in the conference committee be reported to iron out the amount of fairly technical differences[SPEAKER CHANGES] further discussion further discusssions ?? ??and gentlemen questions to determine you certainly don't I would member the bill what is what is really the technical difference are two differences represented that was one of immediate required that both parents and students receive notification and that's not in the only students I believe is in the the the Senate provision but the bigger one is that in the house education budget that we sent over we limited the exclusion of the tuition surcharge to people who taken courses outside the system provided they are taking the courses before July 1 that doesn't have the July 1. In there and in fairness to Chairman Horn McGrady and an hallway as well and Johnson as well as a chairman Blackwell on the budget on to make sure they match up[SPEAKER CHANGES] further discussion further debate if not a question for the house is the motion to not concur the Senate committee substitute browsable to 55 ?? ?? over the

Speaker: The clerk will record the machine and quote the vote 110 having voted in the affirmative and none in the negative the house is not concord for senate committee substitute house bill 255 ?? actually we will appoint conferees will be glacier chair hallway,Johnson and horn the senate will be notified ,house 322 the clerk will read, Speaker: Senate committees substitute for house bill 322 the bill ?? to weigh the commercial skills test for tired or discard members of the armed forces will also satisfy other requirements, Speaker Changes:Representative ?? please state your purpose, Speaker Changes: To make a motion, Speaker Changes: The gentlemen is recognized to motion and to debate the motion, Speaker Changes:to make a motion w accept the small technical changes that the senate made ,they just made a very small technical clarifying changes in the last paragraph of the bill, Speaker Changes: Further discussion further debate if not the question before the house is the motion to concord for senate committee substitute for house bill 322 all in favor vote aye all oppose vote no the clerk will read and the clerk will quote the vote ,the clerk will record the machine and will quote the vote 111 having voted in the affirmative and none in the negative ,the house has concord the senate committee substitute the house bill 322 the bill being enrolled and sent to the governor by special message house bill 322 the clerk will read ,senate committee substitute for house bill 322 is about ?? making other confirming changes and providing for alternating procedures for satisfaction of securities, Speaker Changes: Representative Brian please state your purpose , Speaker Changes: To make a motion and to debate the motion, Speaker Changes: The gentlemen is recognized for a motion and to debate the motion, Speaker Changes: I concord with the senate committee substitute there is one small revision regarding the affected date of the bill that is acceptable and asked you to concord thank you, Speaker Changes: Further discussion further debate on the motion if not the question before the house is the motion to concord and the senate committee substitute for house bill 332 all in favor vote aye,all in favor vote no the clerk will record the vote all members please record Representative hall.the clerk will on the machine and will quote the vote 111 having voted in the affirmative none in the negative the house had concord the senate committee substitute for the house bill 332 the bill being enrolled and send to the governor by special ??, Speaker Changes: Representative ?? please state your purpose, Speaker Changes: House bill 390 the clerk will read , Speaker: Senate committee substitute for house bill 390 the bill has been the time to act and make various changes in laws relating to state changes and technology governance, Speaker Changes: Representative ?? please state your purpose Speaker Changes: To speak on the motion, Speaker Changes: The gentlemen is recognized for the motion and to debate the motion, Speaker Changes: Thank you Mr.Speaker this has been a model change ?? which we pass out here 11 and zero 49 years old ?? was requested by the agency as you support the motion, Speaker Changes: Further discussion further debate if not the question before the house the senate is going to concord for house will 390 all in favor vote aye all oppose vote no the clerk will open the vote all member please record Representative ?? ,the clerk will record the machine and will quote the vote 111 having voted in the affirmative none in the negative the house has concord the senate committee substitute the bill being enrolled and send to the governor by special messenger house bill 587 the clerk will read , Speaker Changes: Senate committee substitute for house bill 587 ?? and plan ?? test for certain students, Speaker Changes: Representative ?? please state your purpose send forth the motion and to speak briefly on the motion , Speaker Changes: The gentlemen is recognized for the motion and to debate the motion, Speaker Changes: I asked you to confer with the version of 587 senate has send back to us it's a very minor technical change and we approve this when we came additionally to the house 131,

Please support 587. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Larry Hall please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker, the representative yield to a quick question? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Whitmire, does the gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I do. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker, Representative Whitmire, there's a requirement as I see it the State Board of Education ensure the parents of the students are informed of these changes is there a requirement of any particular entity in the school system or some methodology to describe as to how this information is going to be given out? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes. All parties, all players involved with this are supportive and that's reflected with quite a bit of tweaking to ensure that all are happy. But as far as the process goes, when it comes to a student what we were doing was testing mildly retarded, intellectually disabled students with a college entrance test and the individual education plan team members that's the process to make sure that the word gets to the parents bill to make their inputs. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not the question before the House is the motion to concur in the Senate Committee Substitute for House Bill 587. All in favor vote "aye" all opposed vote "no". The clerk will open the vote. The clerk ?? machine record the vote, 112 having voted in the affirmative, none in the negative, the House has concurred in the Senate Committee Substitute to House Bill 587 the bill be enrolled and sent to the Governor by special messenger. House Bill 662, the clerk will read.. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senate Committee Substitute for House Bill 662 bill's been filed an act providing for issuance of a limited plumbing contract to license, install and service back full prevention semblance into the live courts to award the Board of Examiners of plumbing, heating, and fire sprinkler contractors, reasonable costs investigation, prosecution of violators. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Samuelson please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To make a motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady is recognized for a motion and to debate the motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move that we not concur. The Senate made some changes we were really close to having it worked out, they unintentionally caught up something, they didn't mean to, Representative Hardister has been working with me on it and so we should have it back in a couple of days, but we ask that you not concur. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not the question before the House is the motion to not concur in the Senate Committee Substitute for House Bill 662. All in favor vote "aye", all opposed vote "no", the clerk will open the vote. Clerk will ?? machine record the vote. 112 having voted in the affirmative, none in the negative, the House does not concur in the Senate Committee Substitute to House bill 662. Representative Samuelson, at the appropriate time this evening, if you could give me suggestions on ?? we'll try to get those appointed and the Senate will be so notified. House Bill 664, the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senate Committee Substitute for House bill 664. A bill has been filed ?? facilitate the deployment of mobile broadband and other enhanced wireless communication services by streamlining the process used by the state agencies and local governments to approve the placement of wireless facilities in their jurisdictions. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Hager, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For a motion and to debate the motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for a motion and to debate the motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. I'd like to ask the body to concur with the House bill 664, the Senate made some changes on locating towers in state parks, if you look on page 12 lines 40-48 you'll see those changes and the ?? and everyone involved agrees with the changes. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion further debate? Representative Larry Hall please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker, the question for Representative Hager. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Hager, does the gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I do. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Hager, there was a new definition put in the bill for ?? location from previously licensed tower. Has that been changed, or did the Senate make any change on what they considered the definition of ?? location and does it have any effect on how this will be applied? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Hall, I don't believe the Senate made any changes to that definition. I think the changes were just in the state parks area. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion further debate? If not the question before the House is the motion to concur in the Senate Committee Substitute to House Bill 664. All in favor vote "aye" all opposed vote "no". The clerk will open the vote.(/h3)

Court ballot machine record the vote. 108 having voted affirmative and 3 the negative the House has concurred in the Senate committee substitute to House bill 664 the bill be enrolled and sent to the governor by special messenger. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House vote 433 the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To the president of the Senate speaks the House of Representatives conferees appointed to resolve the differences between the Senate and the House of Representatives on House Bill 433, a bill that's entitled An Act to Support the Activities of the Armed Forces and to Maintain and Enhance Military Presence in North Carolina by Recalculating the Height of Buildings and Structures Located in Areas that Surround the Military Installations in the State. The conferees recommend the Senate and House of Representatives adopt this report. Conferees for the Senate: Senator Harry Brown, Chair, Senators Pate, Sanderson, Meredith, and Clark. Conferees for the House of Representatives: Representative John R. Bell, 4th Chair, Representatives Whitmire, Stam, and Glazier. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative John Bell please state your purpose [SPEAKER CHANGES] Move for a motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized for a motion and to debate the motion. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I'd like to move that we concur with the changes that were made to House Bill 433 at request of the military we did not concur with this when it originally came over, we fixed those changes along with all the rest of the stakeholders involved and we feel like we have a really good deal going forward. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the request before the House is the adoption of House Bill 433 all in favor vote aye all opposed vote no. The clerk will open the vote. All members please record, Representative George Graham. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Court ballot machine will record the vote: 111 having voted affirmative 1 in the negative. Conference report for House Bill 433 has been adopted; the Senate will be so notified. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Pages, if we could please have the pages come to the front of the dais and those at the dais step down momentarily. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The speaker [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Bluth can you please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I misvoted on House Bill 433 and request that I be recorded as voting "aye." [SPEAKER CHANGES] Gentleman will be recorded as having voting "aye," and as the pages are assembling on the motion to not concur in House bill 662 conferees will be Samuel Sinchair, Hardester, and Goodman. The Senate will be so notified. Representative Fisher please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker, I would like to change my vote. I was in the chamber and I would like to be recorded as voting "aye" on 664 please. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady will be recorded as voting "aye" on 664. Pages, welcome, the clerk is about to call your name. As he does if you'll step forward and wave so we can connect a name to a face. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Kevin Ascue, Cleveland County. Clay Carpenter, Guilford. Haley Carter, Davie. Chase Cross, Davidson. Ryan Furukawa, Gaston. Nichole George, Wake. James German, Wake. Micah Giles, Stanley. Nasmin Harrison, Rockingham. Jada Esther, Wake. Andrea Keever, Rutherford. Jessica Nolting, Orange, Richard Seabolt, Wake. Kiana Swepson, Wake, Gregory Stuart, Wake. Cameron Talent, Davidson. Nicholas Williams, Lenore. William Thor, Wake. Zimial Ware, Forsyth. Joseph Williams, Wake. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Pages welcome. We appreciate you all being willing to serve and spend a week with us here. I hope that over the course of the week you get an opportunity to get a better understanding of what we do here and carry that experience back to your family and friends and others that may want to consider coming down here with us. Members let's give them an appropriate welcome.

You may now return to your stations. House Bill 493. The Clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House Bill 493, a bill to be entitled ‘An Act to authorize the Town of Robbinsville to Levy an Occupancy Tax’. General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative West, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the bill, Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker, members of the House. What this would do, it would allow the town of Robbinsville to levy up to a 3% room occupancy tax. Appreciate your support. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of House Bill 493 on its second reading. All in favor vote aye. Opposed vote no. The Clerk will open the vote. The Clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 86 having voted in the affirmative, 23 in the negative, House Bill 493 has passed its second reading and will remain on the calendar. Senate Bill 128. The Clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Committee Substitute for Senate Bill 128, a bill the be entitled ‘An Act to amend the Charter of the Town of Carrboro to Provide that Vacancies in the Office of Alderman Shall be Filled by Appointment in Accordance with the North Carolina General Statutes or May be Filled Through a Special Election Process Under Certain Conditions’. General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Insko, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To explain the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady’s recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. Members, this bill just allows Carrboro to replace their vacancy with either an election or an appointment. They want that to be able to time their decision based on whether the vacancy occurs right after an election or whether it occurs right before an election. I’d appreciate your support. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of the Senate Committee Substitute to Senate Bill 128. All in favor say aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] All opposed, no. [SPEAKER CHANGES] No. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The ayes have it. The Senate Committee Substitute for Senate Bill 128 has passed its second reading and without objection will be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of the Senate Committee Substitute to Senate Bill 128 on its third reading. All in favor say aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] All opposed say no. [SPEAKER CHANGES] No. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The ayes have it. The Senate Committee Substitute to Senate Bill 128 has passed its third reading and will be enrolled. House Bill 951. The Clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Committee Substitute for House Bill 951, a bill to be entitled ‘An Act to eliminate the Designation on a Tax Return by an Individual for the North Carolina Political Parties Financing Fund’. General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Riddell, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and gentlemen, on the familiar D-400, individual income tax form, is a box that allows you to designate three dollars as an individual or six dollars as a couple to one of three political parties here in North Carolina. This bill very simply eliminates that program and it allows the rest of the funds remaining through this year to be exhausted in the normal process of how they were distributed amongst the political parties. I’ve got several reasons for why I introduced this bill. The first is not every political party here in North Carolina can access these funds. Believe it or not, there are some other political parties besides the three that are listed on the form. On the form you have North Carolina Democrat Party, Republican and Libertarian, but there are some other parties, smaller, but with people equally as devoted to them as we are to our respective parties here in this chamber, but they are prevented from accessing this fund, these funds, this money. Secondly, in the last presidential election, more than over 1.2 billion dollars was raised by the respective candidates and their parties. 1.2 billion dollars. There is not a want of successful fundraising in the nation nor North Carolina for political enterprises, so I have a question about whether or not this program is needed. I think it might have outdistanced, outrun its original purpose, and lastly I don’t think that it’s the job of state government to be soliciting money on behalf of political parties. I don’t think it’s wise for the government to be doing that on a tax form, and I don’t think it’s good that we should enlist the aid of the tax-collecting arm of state government to prop up our political parties. The fiscal note on this bill says it will return two

A million dollars, that's in a general fund. Two million dollars, there's a lot that can be done with that money. We just gone through part of the budget process we each have programs that we would've like to have seen more money designated for. Two million dollars I know it's probably not a great deal in the shape of a twenty billion dollar budget over all, but two million dollars can do a lot of things. Think of the different aspects of education programs that could've used another two million dollars. Think of the number of assistant district attorneys we could've added to our court system for another two million dollars. Think about our state law enforcement personnel, those that work in the department of corrections, FBI,and my favorites, the State Troopers. We could unfreeze the State Troopers salaries with this additional two million dollars. There's a lot of things we could do with this money, and I encourage my colleagues to support this bill. Thank you [SPEAKER CHANGE] Representative Alexander please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGE] Speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGE] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGE] Mr.Speaker, ladies and gentlemen of the House I rise to urge you to vote against this bill, and I want to remind you, that this check off measure first became law as a bipartisan measure, shortly after the Watergate fiasco when people were concerned about the undue influence of money in politics. And people are still concerned about the undue influence of money in politics. The ongoing debate about Citizens United is an excellent example of that. You've heard a proponent of this measure talk about all the things you can do with two million dollars. Well, if you decided for instance, not to devote some of our tax money to a voucher program, you'd pick up not two million, but over fifty million. And with that fifty million we could improve our pay for teachers. I could go on and on and find programs that are buried in our budget that exceed the two million dollars in question. That you could use the money to re-purpose to do something else, but the most important thing I want you to consider as you make your decision to vote, hopefully against this measure, is the fact that when we get a bipartisan way, decided to go down this path of check offs, and to explore using some of our tax payers money voluntarily put in the direction of political parties, this was all designed to get money out of politics, and I think that's something that both Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, Federalist wigs, no nothings, and every other political party that you can think of ought to sign on to. Vote red. [SPEAKER CHANGE]Presenter Stan, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGE]Speak on the bill {SPEAKER CHANGE]The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGE]Mr. Speaker, members of the House, a good bipartisan reason to vote for this bill comes from Thomas Jefferson, the founder I believe of the Democrat Republican party. So, we all claim some lineage from Thomas Jefferson. Some of us name our fund raising dinners after him. And considering a bill that was going to use tax money to present the ideas of one set over another, to paraphrase him, he said to do this is both sinful and tyrannical. [SPEAKER CHANGE] Representative Pittman, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGE] Speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGE] ??? the bill [SPEAKER CHANGE] Thank you Mr.Speaker. If we want to keep money from being that big an influence, I don't know how you do that really, and it seems to me, if that's the concern, keeping money out of the thing, then we shouldn't be involved in the state treasury and having anything to do with it. And as far as money, just my personal situation, last year, my opponent in primary had over 45 thousand dollars, I had 83 hundred, didn't even spend all that, and here I am, so money isn't everything. And other than that, I'd just like to say to Representative Riddell, amen brother.

…keep reaching it. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thanks, sir. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Bumgardner, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask that you vote in favor of this bill, because I agree with Representative Riddell that this was a bad idea when it started. It’s gotten as bad or worse over time. The government has no business mix in the money and politics and taken tax payers' money to fund any political party or campaign. And so I would ask you to vote in favor of this bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Riddell, please state your purpose? [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak a second time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill second time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Folks, I just want to continue on with the discussion taking place here. When this initiative was first introduced as Representative Alexander said in a bipartisan way, that was before online giving. You know what? Just a few clicks, you can give a lot more than $3 to the party of your choice. That was also before the time of social networking and money-bombs. And there is no shortage of means new and traditional by which political parties can gain, the support they need to stay in operation. I do not think it is the job of the state government to use itself to prop up political parties. I urge you to support for the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Lucas, please state your purpose? [SPEAKER CHANGES] To ask Representative Riddell a question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Absolutely. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Representative Riddell. Does one have to check this thing up, is it required? [SPEAKER CHANGES] No. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Second question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Would you consider this freedom of choice? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I didn’t hear what you said, I sorry. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Would you consider this freedom of choice, this process to be freedom of choice? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I would consider it to be freedom of choice if it wasn’t on a compulsory state document dealing with tax revenue. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Third question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Gentleman yields? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes, sir. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Do you have the option to ignore it? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes, if you are filling out a tax form. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Robert Brawley, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Ask Representative Riddell a question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Riddell, does gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes, sir. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Isn’t this $3, tax dollars? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes, sir. [SPEAKER CHANGES] And a second question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Gentleman yield? Gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] And the choice is whether or not we have the state contribute $3 to political funds, is that correct? [SPEAKER CHANGES] That is my understanding, this does not come from an individual's refund, this is directed away from the general fund to a political party. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Third question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes, sir. [SPEAKER CHANGES] And doesn’t – everyone have the choice to send as much money up to $4,000 as they want, to any candidate they want to? [SPEAKER CHANGES] That is my understanding. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Alexander, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak a second time on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill a second time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I want to remind everybody again that the reason why you get this $3 check off in the first place was we wanted to encourage small donations by individuals to support the political party of their choice. And that was set against large contributions that were coming from the wealthy and from corporate ?? through all kinds of interesting ledger domain. And also wants you to remember that these tax dollars, they don’t belong to you, they don’t belong to me, they belong to the people. And as a result, when a citizen voluntarily decides that they would like $3 of their tax liability to be used to support a political party of their choice. I would submit to you that there is nothing wrong with that. I would also say that if the problem is that there are not enough political parties listed. The way they correct that is to allow that $3 to be directed proportionately to every political party that happen to have qualified in the last gubernatorial election. This isn’t about money going to a particular party. It’s about the ability of citizens who may not have access to the internet. The ability of the citizens who may not…

[Speaker changes.]...all these new sophisticated ways to contribute but who do get a tax return. To be able to send a small portion of their liability to the political party of their choice and, in the aggregate, these citizens are fighting large money and it's influence in the body politic of this country. And I know I'm fightin' an uphill battle and I understand that some of you've already made up your minds but I'll...in closin' I'm gonna tell ya' that, if it's wrong for a citizen to send three dollars to a political party, it is also wrong for a citizen to use the tax system to send $4500 to a voucher program because that is still tax money and it's tax money that's being directed somewhere and it's not tax money that's bein' used generally for the common good in the general welfare. Now I know you're gonna debate with me about that, you'll think that that's a wrong headed and bad direction but it's...IT IS...it depends on where you're standing. If you stand one place, it's okay to spend 50 million dollars this way. If you're standin' somewhere else, it's wrong to spend 2 million dollars to defend democracy. I think that it's important that we defend democracy and I urge you again to vote red. [Speaker changes.] Representative Speciale, please state your purpose. [Speaker changes.] To debate the bill. [Speaker changes.] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [Speaker changes.] I hafta disagree with the previous speaker who just said that it's not your money, it's not my money, it's the government's money...it's that train of thought that got us where we're at over the last few decades. If this was an extra three dollars...if they were saying, here's how much tax you owe, would you like to put three more dollars in of your private money to cover this, that would be bad enough because then...we'd still be using the state to do our dirty work so no matter how you look at this, it was always a bad idea. If it was designed to take the money out of politics, obviously it didn't work so if we came up here to get rid of failed ideas, this is one of them. I ask you to vote against...or to vote for this bill. [Speaker changes.] Representative Alexander, please state your purpose. [Speaker changes.] Just to speak on a matter of privilege. [Speaker changes.] The gentleman will be recognized for a point of persona privilege. If the gentleman wades into anything touching on this bill, he will be ruled out of order. The gentleman is recognized for a point of personal privilege. [Speaker changes.] Mister Speaker? [Speaker changes.] Representative Insko, please state your purpose. [Speaker changes.] May I ask Representative Alexander a question. [Speaker changes.] To the extent that the lady is not effectively trying to allow Representative Alexander to debate the bill a third time, the lady is recognized. Does the gentleman yield? [Speaker changes.] Yes. [Speaker changes.] The gentleman yields. [Speaker changes.] I would like to get some clarification because there is some misunderstanding, I think, on the floor about whether...and this is has to do with the bill but I'd like to get some clarification about exactly whether the reference was to government controlling or taxpayer's controlling. I think there was a difference and, if I could ask...if you'll allow me to ask Representative Alexander that question, I think we could get it clarified. [Speaker changes.] If the gentleman wishes to respond to the specific question. [Speaker changes.] Yes, thank you Representative Insko. My reference was to the citizens, not to the government and I think that is a extremely important distinction. [Speaker changes.] The question before the House is the passage of House Committee Substitute to House Bill 951 on its second reading. All in favor vote aye. All opposed vote no. The Clerk will open the vote. Clerk will lock machine and record the vote. 77 having voted in the affirmative. 35 in the negative. The House Committee Substitute to House Bill 951 has passed its second reading without objection and will be read a third time. [Speaker changes.] General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [Speaker changes.] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question for the House is the passage of House Committee Substitute to House Bill 951 on its third reading. All in favor say aye. (Ayes.) All opposed say no. The ayes appear to have it. The ayes do have it. The House Committee Substitute to House Bill 951 has passed its third reading and will be sent to the Senate. [Speaker changes.]Ladies and gentleman,

Without objection, rule 12d is suspended. Is there objection? So ordered. Senate Bill 8. The Clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senate Bill 8, a bill to be entitled ‘An Act to Increase the Fine for the Removal of Unauthorized Vehicles from Private Lots Pursuant to GS20-219.2. General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Baskerville, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker, I meant to vote no on 951. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman will be recorded as having voted no on 951. Representative Collins, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I guess I’m supposed to represent this bill for Senator Meredith. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to supposedly represent this bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I did it in Finance, and what this bill does is just regularize the law. This fine hasn’t been raised in quite a while. I think if I remember right what this bill does is actually make it equal to the amount that I think the Highway Patrol is currently charging for the same violation. In other words it’s to regularize this penalty with every other amount that we… in every other situation in the state in which we penalize this same infraction, we penalize it for the amount that’s in this bill. So this is designed to regularize it for this particular instance with the other instances in which it occurs in our statutes. I’d ask that you support the legislation. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Stevens, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To see if the gentleman will yield for a question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I will. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] In what dictionary can I find the word “regularize”? [SPEAKER CHANGES] That would be the Homer-Collins 1933 version, my granddad’s dictionary. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of Senate Bill 8 on its second reading. All in favor vote aye. All opposed vote no. The Clerk will open the vote. All members please record. Representative Stevens. The Clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 107 having voted in the affirmative, 5 in the negative, Senate Bill 8 has passed its second reading and without objection will be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of Senate Bill 8 on its third reading. All in favor say [AUDIO SKIPS FORWARD] … no. The ayes have it. Senate Bill 8 has passed its third reading. The bill will be enrolled and sent to the Governor by special message. Senate bill 25. The clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Senate Bill 25, a bill to be entitled ‘An Act to Provide the Members of the Armed Forces who are Serving on Active Military Duty in the Armed Forces of the United States Outside the State of North Carolina Shall be Considered Residents for Purposes of Obtaining Certain Hunting, Fishing, Trapping and Special Activity Licenses’. General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Shepard, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Ladies and gentlemen of the House, the bill does exactly what the reader said it does and I’d appreciate your support. I’d had full support in the Senate and also in the Committee and I’d appreciate full support tonight. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of Senate Bill 25 on its second reading. All in favor vote aye. All opposed vote no. The Clerk will open the vote. All members please record. Representative Collins, Representative Johnston. The Clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 112 having voted in the affirmative, none in the negative, Senate Bill 25 has passed its second reading and without objection will be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of Senate Bill 25 on its third reading. All in favor say aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Aye. All oppose say no. The ayes have it. Senate Bill 25 has passed its third reading. The bill will be enrolled and sent to the Governor. Ladies and gentlemen of the House, the Chair would like to extend a welcome and a thank you to the nurse of the day. The nurse of the day is Kim Christopher from Chapel Hill, North Carolina; RN, NP and MSN. Kim, thank you for serving us. Ladies and gentleman of the House, by motion of the gentleman from Moore County, Representative Boles, the Chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to undoubtedly his better half, Angela Boles, wife of Rep. Boles.

The house will come back to order. Members please take your seats. Visitors please retire from the chamber. We will wait a couple more minutes until our members enter the chamber. Ladies and gentlemen of the house, it is going to be a long session today and the chair would expect that as it gets up into the ninety degrees later today that it is going to be hot in here. In the interest of representative Brawley rule 12D is suspended and in the interest of representative Jackson rule 12H is suspended. Is there objection? So ordered. The sargeant arms will lose the doors. The prayer will be offered by representative Sarah Stevens. Members and visitors in the gallery please stand and please remain standing for the pledge of allegiance. Better? This is a prayer from Carol Love Calvary Baptist Church in Mount Airy. Let us pray. Our gracious and loving heavenly father, thank you for the freedom we have of coming to you with our thanksgivings and petitions. As we begin our legislative session this day, we ask that you would remind us of your many blessings. Especially the ones that we so often fail to notice. Thank you for our wonderful state with magestic mountains, rollings hills and breathtaking landscapes. Thank you for our rural communities, large cities, suburban areas and still productive family farms. Thank you for your protection over us in both times of plenty and in times of want. We thank you dear father for the many evidences of your blessings on all of North Carolina. Now we pray that you would remind us of our need to seek your guidance and approval as we discuss matters of importance today. Thank you for being personally interested in our day to day lives as well as in our legislative proceedings. Guide us as we seek to make wise choices for all the citizens of North Carolina. Keep us focused on the task at hand. May we seek... And help us not to be swayed by power or greed or special interest. Instead... May we seek to know your wisdom, may we evaluate options without bias, and may we be sensitive to your leadership. Thank you father that you are able to direct our steps and to influence our decisions. Lead us in governing our great state in a way that pleases you and serves to benefit all of our citizens. May we set aside personal agendas and truly seek to serve the people of North Carolina to our best abilities. Bless us this day with your presence may we be willingly used by you to govern with love, lead with purity of heart, and enact wise legislation for all our constituents. Once again we thank you for the freedom to seek your guidance in these matters may we ever be focused on whats best for all citizens. Bless us, guide as and use us a strong, honest and caring leaders of North Carolina. We ask these names... We ask these things in the name of Jesus Christ, your son, Amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag, of the United States of America. And to the republic, for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Representative Moore is recognized. ??? Speak of the general for tuesday june the 11th, 2013 is being examined and found to be correct. This approval is written. Representative Moore moves to the general for june 11, to be approved is written all in favor say "I". All opposed say "no". The eyes have it the general is approved as written. Petitions, memorials, or papers addressed to the general are similar to the house. Ratification of bills and resolutions the clerk will read. In Rawley ???... Preservation to the governor house bill 29, act of creative defense of possession of pseudo ??? and the defendant has a prior conviction. House bill 157 an act to protect taxpayers from North Carolina from the diversion of fuel tax proceeds from non-transportation uses. And house bill 211, an act to modify the weight restriction applicable to vehicles transporting feed that is used in feeding of poultry or livestock when traveling with a 150 miles of the point of origin. House bill 278, an act encouraging parties to dispute involving certain matters related to real estate under the jurisdiction homeowners association. And the house bill 439 an act to create an infrastructure property taxes for all program. House bill 515 an act to amend the laws of governing credit unions. House bill 623, an act to modify vehicle weight limits or single acts of truck owned operated or owned by on a contract of public util-...

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No duty on the part of the police to even tell you that this process is going on until your building is ceased and it is gone. Now there was a Nuisance Act related to gang activity that has specific language for innocent landlords, I cosponsored it, I supported it and I would do the same for this bill if it had protections for innocent landlords, but it doesn't. And for this reason I'm opposing this bill because once again the city is gonna say, you own the building, you don't know there's trouble but we're gonna hold you 100% accountable and take your building and tear it down because you should have known and kept it clean and never mind the fact that we're the guys with the police department, we're gonna hold you responsible. And that's just not the way we need to do business in this state. I ask you to oppose this bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Stevens please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady is recognized to debate the bill a second time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Want to address two issues here real quickly. The one that representative Brawley just brought up, you have to be aware it's going on. This is repeated contact. Law enforcement will let you know there's problems with your facility and that is what the law requires. The second thing is Representative Glazier kept talking about rebuttable presumption, that's very different than the other three statutes he talked about. Those are held without bond for a period of time. A rebuttable presumption says we've got some magistrates out there that just sort of have a written rule, they just simply a low bond, $5000 for each felony up to a certain thing, and don't really weight a lot of these consequences. What it says is that the judge can have that discretion decide and to be able too weight those things. A rebuttable presumption is just that, it presumes they should be held but then it gives the defense counsel and the person and even the judge the opportunity to rebutt that presumption by considering the various factors. So I'd ask that you still support the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Shepard please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes sir Mr. Speaker to speak on the bill and I'd like to ask Representative Boles a question. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Boles does the gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I do. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Boles recently I saw on WRL one night there was an apartment complex in Southern pines, they were having some similar issues, there was a lot of crime, a lot of things were happening around this apartment complex and law enforcement was at a standstill as to what to do with it. Was that - what I saw is happening is it not? [SPEAKER CHANGES] It is and I've talked to my DA and she's very concerned and very supportive of the bill here and they've had public meetings as well but they still need some more [??] teeth. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Follow up Mr. Speaker. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The other thing that i saw that night on television that night was that they've made repeated attempts to bring the owners of this property to the table too discuss this and to work on doing something about this because some of the tenants that live in those apartments are afraid to even go out at night or allow their children outside to play because there seems to be all this crime going on in this neighborhood and so forth, but the owners I believe of the apartments have refused to come to the table and discuss it with law enforcement and community officials if I'm not wrong. [SPEAKER CHANGES] That is correct and they were an out of state ownership and finally the DA and the chief of police and the sheriffs department forced the owners at a meeting to come and speak to the residents as well. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Representative Boles. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes sir. What I'd like to say is my police chief sent us an email this afternoon and he seriously, he said we would really appreciate if you would support this bill because it would help us in combating some of this crimes and so forth that's going on, some neighborhoods and some businesses. And I understand what representative Brawley is saying but at the same time I don't believe that you own a property without knowing what's going on at that property, and most of the situations that I'm aware of the police chief and the people of the community have already contacted them. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Brawley please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I was going to ask the gentleman a question but I was gonna wait until he finished his sentence and then ask. [SPEAKER CHANGES] But basically what I was going to say is I think most of the time these people are aware, just in the case of Southern Pines they were made aware by the people in the community and some of the tenants in the apartment complex but they were not willing to come to the table and discuss it and try to work anything out. So, I would ask that you support this bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker would the gentleman yield for a question? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Shepard does the gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I'd be glad to. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Shepard will you show me in the bill where it says that the police will notify the owner that there's a problem? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Brawley I did not see that... [SPEAKER CHANGES] [??] Representative Shepard the gentleman will suspend that question, it's probably better directed to Representative Stevens.

The gentleman doesn't doesn't mind they will redirect does this lady yield. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady yields [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, and I knew that was an issue that he was having I was attempting to find representatives Rawely the definition. This is under Chapter 19 – one is what what are nuisances is and that's what comes in hundred 19 – 1.11a uses the definition knowledge or knowledge of the nuisance which is something you find in order to take the property or create the nuisance action and I can read entire paragraph but it says repeated acts which constitute creating constitute a breach of the peace is evidence that the defendant knew or by the exercise of due diligence should have known they are conduct constitute proof of knowledge so somehow the defendant is the person that you are going through civil action which would be the person who owns the property knows or should have known of the activity you can't just get back in and be stupid that you can't just lease your property for this purpose and that's what a lot of people done is that they leased it continue to repeated acts have gone on and they refused to take action [SPEAKER CHANGES]of Mr. Speaker a follow-up does the lady yield? the lady yields.[SPEAKER CHANGES] does the section that you just quoted say anything about the police notifying the owner or does it merely allow them to establish that they knew or should have known[SPEAKER CHANGES] it in new or should have known because sometimes[SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you representative will lady yields for the second question [SPEAKER CHANGES] representative rawely when she is answering herquestion chair you appreciate that you not interrupt does the lady finish answering and then the gentleman will be recognized for follow-up question[SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you Mr. Speaker Mr. Moore knew or should have known has very specific legal ramifications that to be proven that you knew or deliberately disregarded knowing Mr. Speaker can ask a follow-up [SPEAKER CHANGES] does the lady yield [SPEAKER CHANGES] follow-up does what you think the yield is there anything in the bill and general statute you quoted that would hold a cooperative landlord harmless for his attempt to cooperate with police [SPEAKER CHANGES] I believe there would be that when I said I have to know and and yes it's time to take some action to help the police respond with it if you know of any circumstance in which law enforcement has had a cooperative person who did not lost their property to anyway waiting for police please let us not because that's not the intent of this and I don't believe there's anywhere that that's been done or Michigan Michigan, where it is always that your purpose specifically you for question that if the Jonah wielders are probably the gentleman have any other follow-ups are what did I think I wasn't intending to be rudely represented by the election was debating the bill after answering the question of if there were specific exemption does the lady yeid? [SPEAKER CHANGES]as after asking the questions I will if there's which you agree to a specific exception or a defense for a cooperative landlord have an absolute defense against loss of their property[SPEAKER CHANGES] I would say yes [SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you mr. speaker for offering an amendment tomorrow representative McNeil or representative stone please state your purpose[SPEAKER CHANGES] thank you Mr. Speaker do you mind asking if the lady will yield. The lady will yield. Thank you Mr. Speaker and I'll tell you from a landlord's perspective that we have a great piece of legislation and I'm just wondering if you would take the opportunity of course I just heard that there will be a amendment but we have a chance to appoint a great piece of legislation I don't know of a landlord who that I am aware of that would not work with the city County or state or whoever but we got an opportunity while this bill is here today to go ahead and fix it so that we can clarify this because the biggest problems are not what solved here it's how it's intended back home and who reads it the intended pressure of the person a reason will see one another so given opportunity to fix it and I'm just wondering if you will consider putting this bill up or displacing it until we get an amendment to fix it [SPEAKER CHANGES] that would be fine whether we want to have a vote on Saturday I can work on amending it on the third I think of an abundance of respect and ask anybody to to a lease contact the senator because the Senate bill not mine

Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative McNeill, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To ask Representative Stevens a question if she’s not worn out. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Stevens, does the lady yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I yield. I’m just getting ready for the next bill too, so… [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I’m a little confused about the debate tonight. If this bill is defeated, would the language that Mr. Brawley is objecting to still be in the old bill? [SPEAKER CHANGES] That’s correct. [SPEAKER CHANGES] So defeating this bill is not going to change his argument, correct? [SPEAKER CHANGES] That’s correct. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Another question please. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Does the lady yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I do. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The Lady yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] And when you were talking about the rebuttal presumption in section G, you explain that’s where it says that a judge can overrule that? [SPEAKER CHANGES] He can. [SPEAKER CHANGES] He can. So the rebuttal presumptions, it’s pretty much just going to relate to magistrates pretty much. [SPEAKER CHANGES] That’s correct. [SPEAKER CHANGES] A judge could overrule that. [SPEAKER CHANGES] And I believe that a magistrate could too, but they would have to make specific findings of fact as to why they didn’t follow the presumption. That’s one thing a rebuttable presumption does, is it gives somebody a reason in the future to understand why this person was released, if particularly they fled. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you. To debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I think there’s been a lot of argument tonight about nothing. Number one, we’ve spent a lot of time on Mr. Brawley’s, and if we defeat the bill the language is still in there, so it’s not going to fix his problem. Also there’s been a lot of debate about rebuttable presumption when a judge can overrule it. It seems to me like there’s been just a lot of debate over nothing. As a member of the Sheriff’s Office I wholly support this bill. It is a good bill. We have used this bill numerous times, or excuse me, this law numerous times in Randolph County to shut down places that were a nuisance and selling drugs, and it has been a wonderful piece of legislation, and I commend the bill to you and I think you ought to vote green on it. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Larry Hall, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and gentlemen, I’ll be brief. There are two problems with this, and certainly I hope they’ll be fixed and I can support this bill. The first is there is a restriction that says the person, if charged under these sections, has to be released by a judge, so if a judge is not available, magistrate cannot do it if he’s charged under these enhanced provisions. A magistrate cannot do it – it clearly says it, so we don’t have to debate whether a magistrate could. It clearly says “released by a district or superior court judge”. That’s who has to release him. So if it’s on a weekend when a judge is not on duty, not available, whatever, unless someone’s going to go bring the judge back, they won’t be able to be released as they would normally be released. Second of all, this bill says if you’ve been previously charged, then if you get charged a second time while on release, not having been found guilty, not having had an opportunity for a trial, but if you’ve been previously charged then you fall under these guidelines without having had your day in court. Now maybe we need to speed up the court system, maybe we need to give priority to these type charges, but we don’t need to treat someone as if they’re guilty without having had that opportunity, and we don’t need to hold them this additional period of time which may be three or four days depending upon if they get arrested on a weekend or on a holiday weekend before a judge is going to be available. I hope this bill will be fixed so I can support it. Can’t support it in its current form. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Speaker? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Stam, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Hall, Larry Hall… [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Hall, does the gentleman yield? [SPEAKER CHANGES] I yield. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman yields. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Hall, do you recall the Durham delegation bringing us a bill earlier this session that has the same presumption in order to combat gang activity in Durham? The same procedural requirements? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Stam, I do recall that bill. I objected to it in our city council meetings. I objected to it because our county presiding superior court judge and our district court judge were opposed to it because of the reasons I just talked about about judges being available and additional workload, as well as the bondsman objected to it. I objected to it for the reasons I already articulated on the floor. As you know, this is the long session, not the short session, so one member of the delegation can’t stop the legislation from moving. I objected to it, I objected to this. I hope this will be fixed and I hope the Durham bill will be fixed. Thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Michaux, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] To speak on the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Actually to correct Representative Stam. The bill was not on gang activity, Representative Stam. The gang activity bill passed three or four years ago. The bill that was introduced this time was the use of weapons.

The question before the House is the passage of the Senate committee substitute to Senate bill 264 on it's second reading. All in favor, vote aye, all opposed vote no, the clerk will open the vote. The clerk will allow the machine to record the vote. 70 having voted in the affirmative, 41 in the negative. The Senate committee substitute to Senate bill 264 has passed it's second reading and will remain on the calendar. Senate bill 285, the clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] House committee substitute for Senate bill 285, ?? entitlement act to eliminate the requirement that would come into effect on July 1, 2013. That laboratory product chemical analysis on the GS20-139.1 be accredited and an accredit embody that is a signatory of the International Laboratory Predation Cooperation ILAC mutual recognition arrangement and to quantify that the results of chemical analysis of blood or urine from all hospitals and laboratories in North Carolina that are approved by the Department of Health and Human Services pursuant to the clinical laboratory improvements of ?? 1988 CLIA program are admissible as evidence. General assembly of North Carolina, you're next. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Stevens, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Well, since I'm stimulating such discussion to speak on this bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The lady is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker. Members of the House, what this bill first says is that it eliminates the requirement which is set to go into effect July 1st, 2013, of being a certified ILAC facility for, but only for purposes of DWI law. And under DWI law, you allow hospitals who are certified under federal law through the Department of Health and Human Services to conduct that blood and urine, or blood test for alcohol, and to allow that to evidence, to come in under forensics. This will help with some of the backlog that the lab has. In the interim I also received an email from Christy Agnar at the Department of Justice who indicated that as of Friday, the state crime lab has received it's ILAC certification. So it will continue to handle those controlled substances, DNA, things like that. This is simply for the purposes of alcohol and to allow lab people to come in and testify. Thanks for your support. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The question before the House is to passed to the House committee substitute to Senate bill 285 on it's second reading. All in favor, vote aye. All opposed, vote no. Clerk will open the vote. All members, please record. Representative Bill Rawly. Clerk will allow the machine to record the vote. 112 having voted in the affirmative, not in the negative. The House committee substitute to Senate bill 285 has passed it's second reading. Without objection. Will be read a third time. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Chairman assembly of North Carolina. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Warren, please state your purpose. Mr. Speaker, I apologize for disrupting the proceedings. But I was distracted somehow in the debate on SB264. I'd like to be recorded as voted aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman will be recorded as voting aye. Further discussion, further debate. If not the question before House is to passage of the House committee substitute of Senate bill 285 on it's third reading. All in favor say aye. All opposed say no. The ayes have it. The house committee substitute Senate bill 285 passed it's third reading and will be returned to the Senate. Senate bill 358, clerk will read. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Committee substitute number two for Senate bill 358 available to the entitlement and act to authorize to guarantee to asset protection waivers to be authorized in this state. General assembly of North Carolina, you're next. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative West, please state your purpose. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Speaker. Members of the House, I guarantee that asset protection waiver is a constitutional provision. When a creditor waives the amount of debt in excess of the borrowers primary insurance in the event of a motor vehicle having a total loss. What that is is, when you buy a new vehicle there's usually, when you first drive it off the lot, a significant diminution in value. That means the insurance, at that point would not cover the full amount that a car purchaser may well have borrowed to purchase the vehicle. The gap waiver is just for a fee. The creditor who holds the note on that vehicle is saying, I'll take just what the insurance covers.

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