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House | June 16, 2016 | Chamber | House Convenes Before Recess

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[BLANK_AUDIO]. [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] The house will come to order. Members will take their seats. Visitors will retire from the chamber. The sergeant at arms will close the doors. Members and guests are asked to please silent electronic devices. This mornings prayer will be offered by Representative Fisher. We ask all members and all guests in the gallery to please stand Stand for the prayer and remain standing for the pledge of allegiance. Representative Fisher? I believe the lady was on the list for the prayer today. [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] >> [COUGH] >> Let us pray. Holy presence who's spirit moves Quietly but surely in the sound and theory of the world and in our lives, as concerned and caring people we need release from growing dissatisfactions, fretful preoccupations, nagging prejudices and the arrogance of being right. Release us from the disguises and lies from which we hide ourselves from our responsibility for our neighbors, our city, our state and our world. Release us from being possessed by riches we do not need and which keep us from seeing where our true treasure lies Lies. For we do truly care about our neighbors and all the things that would make it better and easier for us to live together. We do care for the least of this, the hungry and the terrorized and the sick and the exploited. We do care about peace and yearn for Yearn for it inside and out and are weary of being afraid for ourselves and our children and we care passionately for this fragile blue planet, this home, this mother earth and all her offspring and creatures who share this life with us, free us give us Power and grace to work while it is still day. Amen. >> Amen. I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. The gentleman from Harnett Representative Lewis is recognised for a motion. >> Mr. Speaker the journal for June 15th has been examined and been found to be correct I move that it stand approved as written. >> Representative Lewis moves that the journal for June 15th be approved as written, those in favor will say aye. >> Aye! >> Those opposed no, the ayes have it, the journal is approved as written ratification of the bills and resolutions, the clerk will read. >> The reading clerk reports the following bills due to be ratified for presentation to the Governor, Senate bill 734, an act authorizing the state health director to prescribe opioid antagonistic means of statewide standing order with immunity from the civil and criminal liability such actions and recommended by the joint legislative oversight committee on health and human services.

Senate bill 748, an enact to change the reporting date of the Blue Ribbon Commission to study the building and infrastructure needs of the state as recommended by the blue ribbon commission to the study of building infrastructure needs of the state. >> The clerk will suspend reading for just a moment. Members for your planning purposes of the house we'll be going into recess at noon so that folks can have lunch. The Chair does believe that today's session may take a while longer so for your planning purposes just wanted to let members know that this court may continue. >> House Bill 958 an act to provide increasing penalties for impaired boating resulting in death or serious injury to the clarified penalty impaired boating as recommended by the house select committee on wildlife resources. House Bill 970 an act authorizing criminal record checks for any current or prospective employees volunteers or contractors at the office of the controller as recommended by the joint legislative oversight committee on general government. House Bill 1014 an act to make conforming changes and removing obsolete references to the moral food program i the general statutes as recommended by the joint legislative oversight committee on health and human services and to rename part six of the article, 1B of chapter 130A of the general statutes Taylor's/g law establish an adviser council on rare diseases. House bill 1145, an act to disapprove the general anesthesia as sedation definitions rule adopted by the North Carolina board of dental examiners and to direct the North Carolina board of dental examiners not to enforce certain rules and the following bills duly ratified properly enrolled and prepared for presentation to the office of the secretary of state. Senate bill 382, an act to revise senate bill 612, in provided for a merger of consolidated, school administrative units in Nash County, and the city of [INAUDIBLE] House bill 957, an act to amend the charter of the city of [INAUDIBLE] to allow the [INAUDIBLE] to receive compensation for their services provided by general law. House Bill 1131, an act authorizing the town of Andrews to exercise extraterritorial planning within miles of the town's corporate limits with approval of the board of commissioners in Cherokee county. House Joint resolution 977 a joint resolution providing for the confirmation of Gregory Maguire as special superior court judge. House Joint Resolution 979 a joint resolution providing for the confirmation of Charles M. Viser as special superior court judge. House Joint resolution 981 a joint resolution providing for the confirmation of Michael Robinson. >> Chapter bills are being noted. Members on motion of Representatives Daughtry and Labrinth, the chair is happy to extend courtesies of the gallery to Laura Blam from Winston Sailum who is herewith [INAUDIBLE] pages as well, her children Olivia and J. Blam. Would you all please stand so that we can welcome you. Thank you for being with us today. >> [APPLAUSE] >> Also we have Jack Jackson here as an honorary page, he is the son of Representative Darren Jackson. Jack glad to have you with us today too. >> [APPLAUSE] >> We're gonna move around the calendar a little bit today to try to dispose off a few bills that the Chair believes will be non controversial but we'll see if the Chair makes a better call than yesterday. Actually introduction to the bills and resolutions the clerk will read. >> Representatives Baskerville, Mitchell, and L. Howl, house resolution 1150, honor Mohammed Ali. >> Rules, calendar, and operations of the house. Messages from the senate, the clerk will read. >> House bill 242, senate committee substitute, a bill to be entitled an act to make various changes to try to scoop laws for concurrence in the Senate committee substitute. >> Calendar. >> House 4870, Senate committee substitute adhere to the [INAUDIBLE] clarify the renewal, release and cancellation process of security entrance and the certificate entitled The Manufacture Home and clarify calculation of the cost of undertaking for the installation of a manufacture home for concurrence in the Senate committee substitute. >> Calendar. Members our motion of the members from UniK Representatives Art Brody and Horn, the chair is happy to extend the courtesies to Gary to Stony Rashin who is chairman of the Union county board of commissioners. Would you please stand so we would welcome you. Thanks for being with us today. >> [APPLAUSE] >> Also on behalf of Representative Bale of Wayne county as well as all members of the house the chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to a group of folks visiting on behalf of the North Carolina school counsellors association,

would you all please stand so that we could welcome you.Thanks for being with us [APPLAUSE] On motion of the members of Wake, Representatives Martin and Pendleton the chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to the teenagers from White Memorial Presbyterian Church in Raleigh who are visiting the General Assembly today both Representative Pendleton and Martin attend church at White Memorial Presbyterian Church so you guys can help, just keep an eye on them would you all please stand so we could welcome you. Thanks for being with us today. >> [APPLAUSE] >> Calendar. House joint resolution 1149 the clerk will read. >> [SOUND] Representative Louis house joint resolution 1149 a joint resolution providing for confirmation To the board of review. The house resolved does the senate concur? >> The gentleman from [UNKNOWN] Representative Louis is recognized to the Baker resolution. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker and members of the house I rise today to ask for you to join with me in confirming the nomination Excuse me, the governor's appointment of Fred Steen to the Board of Review. I can state for the record that the rules committee has reviewed the nomination from the governor and also that Fred Steen has completed all necessary state Statements of economic interest those are own file. I will say on a personal note members that many of us have known Fred and know Fred through his frequent interactions with members of this body and many of us recall that Fred once served in this body. I do respectively Ask that you would vote to confirm Fred Steen through the board of review. Thank you Mr. Speaker. >> Further discussion, further debate? If not the question for the house is the passage of house joint resolution 1149. Those in favor will vote aye, those opposed will vote no. The clerk will open the vote. [BLANK_AUDIO]. Do the following members wish to record the Chair's [UNKNOWN] on the floor Representatives Earl, Brawley, Dobson, McGrady and Bryan. [BLANK_AUDIO] The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 113 having voted in the affirmative and none in the negative, house joint resolution 1149 passes its 2nd reading and will without objection be read a 3rd time. >> House resolves and concurs. >> Further discussion, fiúrther debate, if not the question before the house is the passage of House Joint Resolution 1149 on its 3rd reading, those in favor will say aye >> Aye! >> Those opposed no, the ayes have it, House Joint Resolution 1149 having passed its 3rd Reading will be sent to the Senate by special messenger. Members I would, I certainly want to recognize our former member who's with us and I wanna introduce him and his family they are all in the gallery. First of all of course Fred Stein, former house member, my former seat mate. Fred we congratulate you today, he's also joined with his wife Tina His father Fred Stein Senior, Mother Betty Stein, and aunt Neddy Starks would ya'll please stand so that we can welcome you'? Thanks for being with us today [APPLAUSE] [APPLAUSE] >> Congratulations again Fred. House Bill 6 the clerk will lead. >> The company's appointed to resolve the difference between the Senate and the House of Representatives on House 436 [INAUDIBLE] an act of further defiance [return?] practice law for the purpose of protecting the members of the public from serious Harm was altered from the unauthorized practice of law by a person who is not trained and licensed attorney. Senate rules operations of the Senate committee substitute about 92315 submit the following report: The House and the Senate agreed to the following amendment of the Senate rules and operations of the Senate committee substitute dot 92315 and the house concur the Senate committee substitute has amended. The legal entire Senate rules an operation's Senate committee substitute.92315 and substitute [INAUDIBLE] proposed conference committee substitute

H436-PCCS40668-R0-1. The conferee is recommended for the senate and the house of representatives adopt this report, state conferees approved, report June 15th, 2016, conferees from the senate, Senator Daniel as chair, senators Lee, Mitten, Bryant, Landymith, and Blue, conferees of house of representatives, Representatives Bryant, Davis, Bishop, Stevens and Hall. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Johnston Representative Daughtry rise? >> To speak on the adoption of the conference report. >> The gentleman has the floor. I guess the gentleman moves that the house do adopt the report? Gentleman is recognized for that motion the gentleman now has the floor to debate the motion. >> As you may remember two years ago we had a bill to resolve a dispute between Legal Zoom and the State Bar there was a lawsuit going on and there was a consent judgement that was surrendered by the court and we had a bill that took us a while to get past but thanks to Representative Stevens and her hard work this bill has the consent, agreement of all stakeholders, it was thoroughly debated and I don't know if anybody is opposed to it and I would appreciate your support. Thank you. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from New Hanover Representative Davis rise? >> To speak on the motion. >> Gentleman has the floor to debate the motion. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker. Ladies and gentlemen of the house I really wanna thank Leo Daughtry for his leadership in getting this conference report done and also Sarah Stevens hard work, in getting this report completed and I'd ask that you please vote green on adopting the conference report. Thank you. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Wake Representative Jackson rise? >. For a question for the lady from Surry County. >> Does the lady from Surry yield to the gentleman from Wake? >> I do. >> She yields. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker. Representative Stevens am I correct to stating that the clear intent of this legislation is to authorize the use of computer software in the completion of pre-developed forms? >> It is. >> Mr. Speaker may I ask the lady an additional- >> Does the lady yield to an additional question? >> I do. >> She yields. >> Am I also correct in stating that we are now authorizing computer software programs to make legal decisions. >> That's correct, the bill specifically states the practice of law which includes the giving of legal advice is still practice law. >> Mr. Speaker, may I ask the lady an additional question? >> Does the lady yield to an additional question? >> I do. >> She yields. >> Am I also correct in stating this legislation has no impact on the prohibition in GS84-5 I guess non attorney corporations practicing law. >> You are correct and I will tell you that I haven't said I do this much since my wedding day >> [LAUGH] >> Mr. Speaker, I have one additional question- >> Does the lady yield for an additional question? >> I do. >> She yields. >> And finally Representative statements and I too thank you for all your hard work it's not been an easy task bringing all these parties together. Am I correct in stating that the proposed text and the 84-2.1 subsection B2 specifically excludes the preparation and abstract and impassive only titles from which website operators will be allowed to do. >> They will not be allowed to do that. They are allowed to do residential lease forms and we did protect Ms. Julia Howard and real estate agents can still do by sale contract. >> Thank you Ms. Stevens thank you very much. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Union, Representative Brody rise? >> To ask Representative Stevens a question please. >> Does Representative Stevens yield to Representative Brody? >> Again I do. I've been a popular girl. >> Just real brief for us who occasionally use I guess you could call them legal forms like real estate to offer a sale and lease and that this no way prevents us from buying those forms if they're available through Legal Zoom or any of the other outlets. >> That's correct. We said fill in the blank forms are absolutely fine as long as they're not in essence giving you legal advice on how to fill them out and as I said, real estate agents can still fill in those blanks offered a purpose in contract. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Cadabra Representative Setzer arise? >> Speak on the bill. >> Gentleman has the authority to debate the bill. >> As you all know I am not an attorney, and I would be to the point that we should use our professional staff and professionals in North Carolina I have a constituent who used this service online and now when the state filed after the lady passed,

the property is left in a legal knot because it doesn't coincide with the statutes and from all intents and purposes, it was not the intent of the descendant. I argue to support this bill. >> Further discussion, further debate? >> If not the question for the house is the motion to adopt the conference report, the House Bill 436. Those in favor will vote aye, those opposed will vote no. The clerk will open the vote. [BLANK_AUDIO]. The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 116 having voted in the affirmative and none in the negative, the conference report that House Bill 436 is adopted and the senate will be so notified. Senate Bill 881 the clerk will read. [BLANK_AUDIO] >> Senator Tucker, Senate Bill 881 a bill to be entitled an act to establish a moratorium for filing the actions of Union County board of education challenging the sufficiency of local funds appropriated to public schools by the Union County Board of Commissioners. General Assembly North Carolina acts. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Union Representative Arp rise? >> To debate the bill. >> The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. >> Ladies and gentlemen this is a Union County funding bill. Basically what it is which we discussed in committee this is a limitation on filing law suits from the school board to the County Board of Commissioners For one year. We have a unique situation in Union County where our superintendent has retired early, we had two members from the school board resign early, may of our senior staff has left there is an on going Situation and what this does is provide a one year moratorium on the funding issue ensuit. This is a very, very narrowly crafted solution, the citizens are very tired of just many things going on This is a very narrowly crafted solution to give our county a break to allow the process to go through in November voting for the new board to allow the selection of a new superintendent. And it's a very A very limited and narrow solution and I would ask for your support. >> For what purpose does the lady from Buncombe Representative Fisher rise? >> To debate the bill Mr. Speaker. >> Lady has the floor to debate the bill. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker ladies and gentlemen I am opposed to this bill Bill and I wanna tell you why. During the presentation of this bill in committee yesterday Representative Arp/g told us abut his experience as a school board member and chair for a number of year in Union County. And I have a great deal of respect for that because I too was a school board member and chair in In Ashville. And the cause of that I saw the importance of being able as a school board member with my fellow members to bring suit against the county if they did not fund us appropriately. This takes that away. Not only does it take it away Away and I get that it's only limited to one year but not only does it take that away, it ties the hands of these newly elected board members who have put themselves out there to run for office, ties their hands for the first year of office. And while we would want to take Take access away from a board as important as one that deals with the bottom line expenditures for our students is beyond me. I can't imagine that that is something that would have made Representative Apr/g happy as a newly Elected school board member. I encourage you to vote no. Thank you. >> For what purpose does the lady from Wake Representative Holly rise? >> To debate the bill. >> Lady has the floor to debate the bill. >> When this first came yesterday I had some questions about it. But what became very obvious quickly Is the old change the rules in the middle of the game. Now we all know we in the middle of some basketball and a lot of people upset because somebody named Steph Curry what is his name,

can make three-pointers. So somebody says well let's change Game I don't like three-pointers, so we going to change the rule of the game so three-pointers are no longer allowed. Well the coach may be out, you may have a couple of players injured but you in the middle of a season in the middle of a game and that's why we are here with this legislation. Those people were voted in To do something for their county and represent their school board. And you are now trying to change the game on them in the middle of the game. And that's not fair. And I don't think that we need to be supporting this. We need to let the vote go down as it should on the 16th in 2016 For what purposes does the gentleman from Union Representative Horn rise? >> To debate the bill. >> The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker, ladies and gentlemen. To echo Representative Arp's presentation, I wanna make two points. No three points. One, very narrowly crafted, two, one year moratorium and three points, we have a new board for all practical purposes coming in. We're gonna have a new superintendent, we're gonna have lots of new things and maybe somebody needs to take the time just to find out where the toilets are and how to unlock the door. Let's just calm down, give everyone an opportunity to breathe, in Union County we're a little worn out. We've had a lot of commotion in Union County the last year or so. So I've spoken with members of the board, I've spoken with members of county. commission, I've spoken to lots of parents, the people that actually pay the bill for all this. And we're just looking for, and this bill reflects I think, the broader will of the community. Let's take a breath, let's step back, let's everyone learn what they need to know. And then proceed thoughtfully and diligently. I encourage your support for the bill. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Durham, Representative Luckie arise? >> Mr. Speaker, first I would like to call under rule 20B-2 for an electronic division on this bill. >> Noted. >> Thank you sir. To speak on the bill. >> The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. >> Members of the House, we have here a situation in which, we have, there are two elected bodies. The Board of Education and the Board of County Commissioners. The people of Union County elected both boards. These boards are not getting along well with one another and I can understand that some would be frustrated with the way the process is going. But I ask you, why would we want to interfere with the democratic process? There are elections, as Representative Ark has said the elections are coming up November 2016 for a school board. And what I hear the applicants of the bill saying, is that we're just so frustrated with this situation that we can't wait until the elections are going to happen in November 2016. And the one year moratorium is a representative [INAUDIBLE] I wanna reiterate that is for the 2016/2017 fiscal year. Which means until June 30th, 2017, this school board, should it be concerned and feeling that they are inadequately funded by the Board of Commissioners they can't do anything. So we are interfering with the old board- >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Union Representative Arp arise? >> I was wondering if I could ask Representative Luckie a question. >> Would the gentleman from Durham yield- >> Mr. Speaker, I'd be happy to yield after my remarks. >> He does not yield, the gentleman who has the floor may continue with his remarks. >> Thank you. So we're facing here a situation where we as a General Assembly are interfering with the situation in Union County. It's not right for us to be doing that. If the voters don't like this board, they would vote this board out or all the candidates who are running, who are sympathetic to this board, they'll vote those people out in November. They also will vote at some point, I'm not sure if it's November or not on the County Commission. So there is this ongoing democratic process, the fact that it's frustrating right now, is neither here nor there from the stand point of our allowing people to participate democratically through the electoral process. I urge you to vote against the bill, thank you. >> Mr. Speaker. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Union Representative

Ark arise? >> One of the gentlemen, Representative >> [CROSSTALK] >> Would the gentleman from Durham yield to the gentleman- >> Yes sir, happy to yield. >> Representative Luckie have you read the bill and understand that the bill regarding the current funding that will begin in June of this year for the 2016-17 year, the issue that you and Representative Fissure have spoke to, talking about the new board members being empowered in November of this year. Those new board members are aware that they will not have the opportunity following for the moratorium funding anyway, because that would be for the 17/18 school year that those members would be working on and therefore that's totally false? >> I do understand what with respect to the fiscal year, and I do also understand that board members take office long before June 30th 2017, and therefore they ought to have the right to begin thinking about, and having a relationship with the county commissioners in terms of what might happen. And so we ought not interfere with that process. >> Follow up M. Speaker. >> Will the gentleman- >> Happy to yield. >> He yields. >> So do you understand that this [INAUDIBLE] is not effective for those new board members that would take office in November of the 16? >> I understand about the fiscal year, yes sir. >> Follow up? >> Does the gentleman yield to an additional question? >> I do, one more. >> Then can you explain to me, your idea about how we're taking up Democratic process for those new board members? >> What we're doing is take away the democratic process from the voters of Union County. They've elected the board that's there now, they will elect the board, in November 2016 they've elected a Orange county commissioner. And that's my core point. Thank you. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Gaston Representative Torbett rise. >> Debate the bill. >> The gentleman has he floor to debate the bill. >> Ladies and gentlemen I was involved in this bill last year and it worked greatly for Gaston County cuz I went home. And I would suppose that each and every one of you all should go home and speak to the leaders on both the board of education and the board county commissioners. And tell them that if any time in North Carolina's history the time is for leadership and not litigation. I'm not surprised at all some of the comments and from which they arrived. Because it seems that some appear throb on the part be able to litigate. It is a true time for leadership. This is a local bill. My Representative Arp, the way that they have handled that. It is concise. It is tailored specifically for the needs. It nowhere as A member mentioned just a minute ago, prohibits dialogue between two boards. And I would just reaffirm the thought that it is time for leadership, not time for litigation. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Sampson Representative Bell rise. >> To speak on the bill. >> Gentleman has the floor to debate the Floor to debate the bill. >> Thank you Mr. speaker, members of the house. I stand as a former superintendent of schools and also a county commissioner.And I think we should not be reaching down into the local Government to deal with a situation like this. Those people are very capable, I think, of handling their situation without any interference from us at the state level. So I oppose this bill. I'm gonna be voting against it. And I wish everybody else would Thank you very much. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Nash Representative Collins arise. >> To ask representative Brody a question. >> Would the gentleman form Union yield to the gentleman from Nash. >> Yes sir. >> He yields. >> Thank you. My first question was just answered. Representative Brody you do represent part of Union County is that correct? >> That's correct. Actually the biggest part of Union county. Are you in favor or opposed to this bill? >> I support my colleagues, not only in the house, but in the senate, supporting that bill, yes sir. >> Does anybody in the house- >> Excuse me, may I [CROSSTALK] Would the gentleman yield to an additional question? >> Yes sir. >> He yields. >> My last question is, does anybody in this house represent you in county besides you Representative Alp and Representative Horn, which we've heard from. Briefly debate the bill? >> Gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. >> This is a local bill, the local delegation s united in favor of this bill, as a courtesy to them, so we ought to vote for the bill. >> For what purpose does the lady from Orange, Representative Insko arise? rise. >> To debate the bill. >> Lady has the floor to debate the bill. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker. Ladies and gentlemen of the house, this bill is very narrowly crafted, this bill only applies for one year, this bill sends a very, very,

strong message to every board of commissioners in the state that they do not have to negotiate with their local school board, I served on a local school board in Orange County. I also served on the board of commissioners. What makes our system work is a balance of power, if one party has no power, the powerful party doesn't have to negotiate. That's what we're getting the message. This lawsuits bring both parties to the table. And that's the purpose of this law, this is the will of the community as one person stated. The community can settle it without a lawsuit, so I urge you not to set this precedence for the rest of the state. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Ash, Representative Jordan arise? >> Top debate the bill. Gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker, house colleagues, one of my colleagues on the other side of the house used a sports analogy earlier and I'm not particularly sports knowledgeable except I did read resolution on Appalachian State the other day. But I wanted to argue with the sports analogy. This is not changing the rules, this is a time out. This is a time out for the parties to figure out what's going on. I think we ought to allow this local bill, it's locally tailored, and the policy it recommends by the way is ridiculous. I can't believe we allow school boards to sue county commissioners, that's why I want this bill to stop it, and I'll continue to stop this ridiculous policy. Support the bill. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Wake, Representative Martin arise? To debate the bill. >> Gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker, i rise to take issue with the statements made by Two of my colleagues from the other side of the house. i'll begin with the comments just made by the gentleman from Ash, and just point out to him that the athletic [INAUDIBLE] by my seat mate, Representative Holly, is Steph Curly who was [INAUDIBLE] repeatedly grilled three pointers against Appalachian State. But it made me rise to take Issue with comments by the gentleman from Nash, Representative Collins, and let us not advocate that my fellow members vote for or against this bill for a particular reason, but mainly when you do make your choice on how to vote, then I'd urge you to take a different approach from the one he advocated. If the framers of our constitution had intended For us to follow a process, by which the members of a local delegation determined the way the outcome should be, they would have put that in the constitution. But instead they set up a process by which all 120 members of the body can exercise our own independent judgment as to what is best So I'd urge my fellow members, as they decide how they're gonna vote, to use your own judgment and not leave it up just to the few members from that particular area. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Union, Representative Alp arise? >> For a motion. >> Gentleman is recognized for a motion. >> Call a question? >> The gentleman from Union has moved the previous question. The question before The House is the motion from the gentleman from Union of the previous question. Those favoring the motion will vote I, those oppose will vote no. The clerk will open the vote [BLANK_AUDIO] The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. With 74 having voted in the affirmative, and 41 in the negative. The call to the previous question is adopted. [BLANK_AUDIO] Before the main question is put, does the minority leader wish to speak for three minutes? Does the majority leader wish to speak for three minutes? Members the question before the house is the passage of senate bill 881 on its second reading, hose favoring passage will vote aye, those opposed will vote no. The clerk will open the vote. [BLANK_AUDIO] The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote, with 81 having voted in the affirmative and a quick finger on the Clear Button, >> [LAUGH] >> And 34 having voted in the negative, the senate bill 881 Has passed its second reading, and will, without objection be read a third time. >> General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Cumberland, Representative Floyd arise? >> Inquiry of the chair. >> The gentleman may state his inquiry. >> The motion was carried just like lightening so I'm just asking,

just to get some clarity, he moved to cut off The debate or call for the previous question? >> Yes sir, the gentleman from Union moved for the previous question, and the body voted to call the previous question and therefore the chair put the previous question. >> Follow up? >> The gentleman is recognized to state his inquiry. >> That was not a follow up, the vote on the bill was. >> That was the second reading of senate bill 881. So the gentleman has now participated in the body has now participated in a call to the previous question and the resulting vote of that question Question, so yes, the vote that was just taken was on the bill. Members the chair would like to note this is the first time we've moved too fast in this chamber for representative Floyd. >> [LAUGH] >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Heywood, Representative Queen arise? I'm actually wondering, and actually see the result of the second reading cuz I blinked and I missed it. [BLANK_AUDIO] >> Members the vote was 81 in the affirmative and 31 34 in the negative, and without objection the third reading will also be recorded and will remain on the screen a little longer. For what purpose doe the gentleman from Guilford, Representative Blast arise? >> Just to make three quick points on the bill. >> Gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. >> First of all, if you're a student of basketball as I am You would realize that one point, shots from way outside did not count three points. The rules were changed at some point, two there was a bill before this chamber that was gonna take away from counties, this ability of school boards to sue county Commissioners, I think that was representative Conrads and I think we should still pass that because my third point is, if you're gonna argue that this is taking away the democratic process from people as has been argued across the aisle, isn't turning over schools funding decisions to a judge? Taking away the democratic process so perhaps we need to look at this policy for the entire state, thank you. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Union Representative Alp arise? >> To speak a final time on the third reading. >> Gentleman is recognized to debate the bill. >> Colleagues I'd hope that you understand my character in history Mystery on voting on [BLANK_AUDIO] and I've been very measured in my approach, as to not interject this body into local matters. However in this instance, this is a very narrowly tailored bill, it's a local bill that provides a one year But if you also look at section two, what we've done is taken the exact language that exists in the current statute, that suggests that the board boards of education, and the boards of county commissioners meet and we've made it mandatory for our boards. And that's what the other part of this bill does, is make Make sure that we enforce and say we really do want you guys to come together and for the good of the people that you've elected you to meet and so section two of this bill requires communication and collaboration and this is a nearly tailored solution for the citizens of Of North Carolina that I in my house delegations and Senate colleagues have devised for our others in Union County and I'd ask for your support thank you. >> What purpose does the lady from Wake Representative Holly arise. >> To speak the bill again. >> The lady has the floor to speak on the bill. >> Everybody Likes my three point analogy because this is just one tool in the tool box that a team has to put okay, with the rules of the game that was established by the leak okay so we've established the rules of the game and we trying to take away one of the tools of the tool box because we have An agency that has decided to use it. We do it u here all the time, we use every tool we have in a tool box, until it's time to vote and change the vote, I say we not change the tools in the toolbox, and keep it, and let the voters decide, thank you. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Gustin Representative Bumgardner arise? >> To debate the bill. >> Gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker. I support this bill, and I haven't heard anybody say that this bill prevents a tremendous waste of time and energy,

when you have one group of people, deciding on how much money another group is gonna have to spend, inevitably you're gonna have problems and that's the real problem here. And so when you have a school board filing lawsuits against the county commissioners, has happened in my county before, then you have a tremendous waste of tax money resources, and energy, and it just causes a lot of problems, and it's much better to avoid something like that and this bill hopefully will help these people avoid that and I support the bill for that reason. Thank you. >> Further discussion, further debate, seeing none, the question before the house is the passage of senate bill 881 on its third reading, those favoring passage will vote aye, those opposed will vote no, the clerk will open the vote. [BLANK_AUDIO] The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote with 79 voted in the affirmative and 35 in the negative Senate Bill 881 has passed its third reading and will be enrolled. [BLANK_AUDIO] Members per the announcement of speaker more of the house will stand in recess until 1:15 PM subject to re-referral of bills and resolutions receipt of committee reports and receipt of messages from the Senate. [SOUND] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO]