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House | June 14, 2016 | Chamber | House Convenes

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May I have your attention please. Visitors please retire from the chamber as the house prepares for session, thank you. [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] House will come to order members will take their seats. Visitors will retire from the chamber, the sergeant at arms will close the doors. We ask all members and all visitors to please silence all electronic devices. This afternoon's prayer will be offered by Representative Ford, we'd ask our members and all of our guests in the gallery to please stand for the prayer and remain standing for the pledge of allegiance. Representative Forbes. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker. Let's pray. Father we thank you for this day and we thank you for this time together. We pray that you'll guide, direct our thoughts here today and as we vote and represent our people at home father. We pray you to bless us on this special day. It's flag day and we thank you for our flag and what it means in the freedom it stands for. We don't take them a light like. We thank you that this is also the anniversary of the day we had in god god we trust or pledge. And we pray that we will be a people that trust in you and we will follow you. In this great state and in this great nation. Father, thank you for your grace, mercy and love and we ask you these things in Jesus name, Amen. >> Amen. I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation unto God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Gentleman from Harley, Representative Louis is recognized for a motion. >> Mr. Speaker the journal for June 13th has been examined and found to be correct. I move that it stands approved as written. >> Representative Louis moves the journal for June 13th be approved as written. Those in favor will say aye. >> Aye. >> Those opposed no. >> No. >> The ayes appear to have it, The ayes do have it. The journal is approved as written. [BLANK_AUDIO] >> Representatives Bell, Wilis and Radell/g recognized to set forth a committee report. The clerk will read. >> Representatives Bell, Wilis and Radell [UNKNOWN] reform committee report. House Bill 976 and handle the cyber service contracts PED Favorable committee substitute unfavorable original Bill. [BLANK_AUDIO] >> [UNKNOWN] Rule 36b for tomorrow. Messages from the Senate. The clerk will read. [BLANK_AUDIO] >> Center Bill 8.78 be the substitute. A Bill to be entitled x provider regular municipal [UNKNOWN] town of Jonesville. and East bend are held in even number of years. >> Elections. >> Senate bill 883 committee substitute a bill entitled enact amended to child of town of [INAUDIBLE] and authorize town council to appoint the town clerk. >> Local government. [SOUND] House will come to order. Members house joint resolution 1149 the short title is a joint resolution providing for the confirmation of threats stained in the board of review. Today would have it we have Jackson first reading the chair would ask if there objections the bill will be eligible to be heard in rules today as your objection, hearing none the bill will be read. >> Representative Luis house joint resolution level 49 a joint resolution provide the confirmation of friends paint to the border [INAUDIBLE] Bill is referred to the committee on rules counter and operations of the house. Representative Floyd the chair does intend to ask for a consolidation of the local bill, that the chair sees the gentleman like on believes that's what the request was. >> Members we have a number of recognitions we'll do. First off on motion of all members of the house the chair is happy

to extend the courtesies the gallery to the governors page is who are with us today [INAUDIBLE] who happens to be my son is one of them, [INAUDIBLE] Sarah Deforest/g, Michael Warren, Megan Pope Carter, Grace Brick, Jessica Jones, Alex Bradley, Mensun Kim, Rachel Figard, Elizabeth Bryne, Cameron Collins, Kagel Robinson and Josh Rigsby, would you all please stand so we can welcome you. Thanks for being with us. >> [APPLAUSE] >> Also we have a group of members here from the Federation of Christian Pastors of North Carolina here, our special guests. Would you all please stand so we can welcome you. Thank you for being with us today. >> [APPLAUSE] [APPLAUSE] Also our motion of the gentleman Representative Rockingham, Representative Jones from Rockingham of course. The chair is happy to extend the courtesies of [INAUDIBLE] To his wife Susan Jones and their friends Andy and Loretta Bergers, Beth Stevens, Elaine Robbins, Melanie Stocks and Kim Machinist. Would you all stand so we could welcome you as well. Thank you for being with us today. >> [APPLAUSE] >> On motion, the members of Pitt and Lee counties, Rep Farmer-Butterfield, Murphy, Martin, Reives and Sam, and the chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to the beginning teachers from the North Carolina Teachers Support Program. Where are you all so we could welcome you? Thank you for being with us today. [APPLAUSE] >> On motion the gentleman from Transylvania, Rep Whitmire, the chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to Shannon Whitmire, to Rep Whitmire's wife and his sons Luke Whitmire, who is serving as an honorary house page and Westmier also serving as a house page, would you please stand so we could welcome you all. Thank you for being with us. >> [APPLAUSE]. >> Also a motion of representative Hastings and myself the chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to a number of students here with the Cleveland County Links program. Would you all please stand so that we can welcome you. Over here to the left. >> [APPLAUSE] >> And on motion of Representative Soccer, Floyd, Lucas and Richardson of Cumberland County the chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to Rachel Cole, Miss Greater Southeastern 2016, who is also escorted by her father Lieutenant Colonel Michael Cole, US army. The Miss Greater Southeastern Scholarship Pageant is an official preliminary of the Miss North Carolina and Miss America organisation serving ten Counties in the south eastern part of North Carolina. We'd ask the two up, please stand so we can welcome you. Thank you for being with us. [APPLAUSE] Counter house bill 817 the clerk will read. >> Representatives R. Turner, Meyer, Farmer Butterfield, and Hawley, house bill 817 a bill to be entitled an act, [INAUDIBLE] jurisdiction act for 2016, General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. >> For what purpose does the lady from Irdell, Representative Tuddle rise? >> Thank you Mr. Chair to make a motion. >> Lady just a moment. [SOUND] house will come to order, the lady has the floor for a motion. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker we have work to diligently on this bill and it has turned out to be a great one so I would encourage everyone to look at it and make your determination but today I ask that we not concur to the senates report because we overlooked one date, so we just need to change the date on the effectiveness of the law so the clerks will have time to train their clerks score the effective date of the law. Thank you. >> The lady from Irdell has made a motion not to concur further discussion further debate if not the question for the house is the motion not to concur with the senate committee substitute to house bill 817 those in favor will vote aye those opposed will vote No the clerk will open the vote. [BLANK_AUDIO] Representative Stevens will be recorded aye madam clerk.

>> For all members on the floor Ross, Davis, Zachary, Robinson, [INAUDIBLE] Martin, Charles Charles Graham. Odd votes aye. Clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 107 having voted the affirmative no to the negative motion not to concur is adopted the chair points the following conferees Representative Rena Turner chair members Representative Harley, Stan, and Meyer, the Senate will be so notified, the chair is now moving to the local bills is the objection to house bills 1022, 1025, and 1132 being grouped, any member have objection to that? Hearing none the clerk will read those three bills. Representative Pius, House bill 1022, a bill to be entitled an act to remove certain described property from the corporate members of town of Maxine and to remove certain restrictions and satellite annexation for the town of South lake City, Representative Speciale, J Bell and G Gram, house bill 1045, a bill to be entitled an act to revise, consolidate the charter of the City of Nublin, Representative Blackbell, house bill 1132, a bill to be entitled an act to remove certain described property from the corporate limits of the town of Glen Alpine, General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. >> Further discussion, further debate, if not the question before the house is the passage of house bills 1022, 1045 and 1132 on there third reading those in favor will vote aye, those oppose will vote no, the clerk will open the vote. [BLANK AUDIO] The following members wish to record representative Robinson, Speciale, Zachary, Graham. Court will lock the machine and record the vote. 108 having voted the affirmative none to the negative, house bills 1022, 1045 and 1132 pass the third reading and will be sent to the senate house bill 99 line two to the clerk will read. [BLANK_AUDIO] >> Representatives Bolding, Dickson, Langevin, Steinberg, House bill 992 about to be entitled then to modify it. Industrial Health Research Program player found a definition for research purposes and responsibilities of licensees creating and assuming criminal penalties for violation of Industrial Health Program and granting rule making authority to the Industrial Health Commission. General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Duplin Representative Dickson rise? >> Set forth the amendment. >> Gentleman recognized, set forth the amendment. The court will read. [BLANK_AUDIO] Representative Dickson moves to amend the bill on page three line ten through 30 by rewriting those lines to read. >> The gentleman has the floor to debate the amendment. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. After conducting some serious committee work on the floor of the house last night after adjournment, it is the consensus of folks involved that we express the proper amount of copper that's in this commission that we're setting up to let them determine if indeed there are limits to acreage etc. And so I apologize for the amount of times that we spent last night doing committee work on the floor and this is an attempt for us not to do any more committee work on the floor and just go to third reading, but appreciate your vote on the amendment. >> Further discussion, further debate on the amendment? If not the question for the house is the adoption of amendment A3 set forth by representative Dickson. Those in favor will vote aye, those oppose will vote no, the clerk will open the vote. [BLANK_AUDIO] Representative Zachary the gentleman would like to record on the vote, the vote is still open. The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 112 having voted the affirmative none to the negative, the amendment is adopted now back to the bill. For what purpose does the gentleman from Union Representative Brody rise. >> To speak real quickly on the bill. >> Gentleman has the floor to debate on the bill. >> We had a good debate yesterday and we needed to go through this process with the amendment. I ask that everybody continue their support for this fascinating program that we're about to enter. Thank you. >> The question before the house. Is the passage of house bill 992 on its third reading. Those in favor will vote aye those opposed will vote no. The clerk will open the vote.

[BLANK_AUDIO] The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 108 having voted in the affirmative, 4 in the negative. House bill 992 passes it's third reading. Bill is ordered endorsed and sent to the senate. House bill 299. The clerk will read.>> Representative Bank Mcneal, house bill 299 a bill to be entitled an act to make various changes to the private protective services of the alarm system licensing act that creates certain feeds. The general assembly of North Carolina next. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Stanley, Representative Burr rise? >> To speak on the bill. >> The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. >> Thank you Mr Speaker, house bill 299 is an agency bill that was requested by the private protective services board and its staff. The bills making several changes to the private protective services act in the alarm systems licensing act, and it's been through judiciary three and Finance during the short session and during the long session as well as being out there. And we've worked with the agency to produce this. I know of no concerns, other than the one we're gonna address within the amendment this time. Mr. Speaker if I can be recognized to send forth an amendment. >> Gentleman is recognized to stand forth an amendment, the clerk will read. >> [INAUDIBLE] to amend the bill on page 4, lines 47 to 48, by rewriting those lines to read. >> The gentleman is recognized to debate the amendment. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker, this member simply deleting the section pretty much the area in section eight, the two changes there that are dealing with those involved with out-of-state alarm sales, and as the private protective services board, the alarm system licensing your act. They're gonna work to try and address this during the interim and come back next year with a solution that will work for all of the interested parties, would ask for the members support. >> Further discussion, further debate. If not the question before the house is the adoption of amendment A one set forth by Representative Burk/g. Those in favor will for aye, those opposed will vote no. The clerk will open the vote. [BLANK_AUDIO] The clerk will lock the machine to record the vote. 112 having voted in the affirmative, 9 in the negative, the amendment is adopted. We are now back in the bill. Further discussion, further debate, if not the question before the house is the passage of house bill 299 on its second reading, those in favor will vote aye, those opposed will vote no. The clerk will open the vote. [BLANK_AUDIO] The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 111 having voted in the affirmative, 1 in the negative. House Bill 299 passes its second reading and will without objection be read the third time. Jefferson is not climbing next. Further discussion, further debate, if not the question for the house is passage of house bill 299 on its third reading. Those in favor will say aye? >> Aye. >> Those opposed no, the ayes have it. House bill 299 passes its third reading, bill is ordered engrossed and sent to the senate. House bill 1047, the clerk will read. >> Representative Jones, Blackwell and Hagar, house Bill 2047 a bill to entitled an act to require North Carolina commission to provide certain care for lottery winnings, information into the department of health and human services division for social services and cross check their is an information of applicants for the recipient food and nutrition benefits to direct legislative research commission to study extend with which North Carolina can disqualify lottery winners from receipt of food and nutrition benefits and to implement certain disqualification period for none compliance with work required for food and nutrition benefits, General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. >> What purpose does the gentleman from Rockingham Representative Johns rise? >> To debate the bill. >> The gentleman has the flow to debate the bill. Thank you Mr. Speaker ladies and gentle men of the house I think we all know inherently but it fits us well to be reminded that government benefits and in this case a food and nutrition benefits are supported by a limited amount of resources, this bill passed unanimously through the house health committee which I think is indicative of the fact that most people see the need to eliminate any identifiable measures of fraud or of abuse, of the system because it takes away the resources from those that need them the most. It's also important that we are a good stewards of our citizen's state and federal tax dollars this affects federal taxes dollars and sometimes we need to be reminded that those are not manna from

heaven, sometimes we tend to here about well it's just federal money. Our North Carolina citizens are federal tax payers as well and we need to be good stewards of those dollars as well as the state. To just go over the bill briefly section one deals with what I think should be rather obvious, that if a person wins the lottery, over a certain amount then this is a change of resources, and the law requires that people would report the incident, people don't always do that, and so what section one does is to say that there will be regular cross checks with the lottery winners within lowries and this program here requires the lottery commission to report the winnings to the DHHS social services and for DHSS to review the information. I would just say that they are within pilot programs and other states that have uncovered significant abuse in this area just to give you a couple of brief examples in Michigan in 2012, they found that nearly 14% of all the lottery winners were welfare recipients . In 9 months alone they were over $24 million dollars in lottery winnings, on average of almost $7,000 a case. The other examples main is another one over four years this was a much smaller state, $22 million. Even jackpots of a half million dollars or more, so there are significant funds there. And so this section addresses that need. Section two simply creates an LOC study of categorical eligibility, so I am not gonna go into all the details because it does this is a study that I would just say that it can be a backdoor loophole for enrollment courtesy of the federal government. Now, they may be reasons in some cases to use it, but others not so we just wanna have a study on this that would come back to the 2017 session of the general assembly. And in section three just clarifies rules for participation and this body decided sometime ago that we would reinstate work requirements that is extremely popular I would say according to surveys nearly 90% of people believe that there should be able bodied work requirements and that is been a very popular thing that I think that we have done to reinstate those requirements and this law just puts a little bit of teeth on this to set disqualification periods. The federal standard penalty should apply and this would cause that to happen, so again it's a bill that passed through health unanimously and I would certainly appreciate your support today. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Gaston, representative Torbett rise? >> Answer representatives question. >> Does the gentleman from Rockingham yield for the gentleman from Gaston? >> Yes sir. Yield. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker thank you representative. My question I guess evolves around, there's no doubt on my mind that some folks will look at this as perhaps that mean old NCGA once again trying to take food away from needy children, needy families and the like and none of u wants that to happen. Nobody in this room or I doubt the state wants that to happen. Can you provide some type of assurances that they would be safeguards in place so perhaps the departmental folks won't take this to an extreme to the point that it becomes problematic and we're back addressing them. I would want some surety that we all care about the folks out there who needs that assistance and that assistance will be provided. >> Absolutely. Thank you for the question Rep Torbett. And as I said, when you look at this, the main reason is ti protect the long term viability of the program to be good stewards and to understand that it's important the people who truly need the benefits are the ones that are getting it. So we're just trying to weed out opportunities for where they may be fraud in the bees/g. I believe they are significant laws on the books, state laws, as well as every law that do provide these types of safe guards and really what we're doing is just making sure that all the laws exists is really enforced as far as the lottery winners are concerned. The law already states, federal law states that if there is a significant chain or a change in resources, that person is required to make that known to the DHHS. So this just clarifies that but it also has the lottery commission itself reporting that. So I hope that answers your question but I do believe those safeguards are in place. And again, North Carolina is not the first state to do this. It has been done in other places with, I believe, a lot of success. >> For what purpose does the lady from Orange,

Rep Insko rise? >> To ask Rep Jones a question. >> Does the gentleman from Rockingham yield to the lady from Orange? >> I do. >> He yields. >> Maybe I misunderstood your explanation of the bill, but I understood you did say that this bill was really a study bill, but that study only applies to disqualification. Is that right? This actually would go into effect for the Lottery Commission to report the winnings and for Social Services to reauthorize anyone who receives a winning of $2500 or more that goes into effect, is that correct?. >> Maybe to answer your question hat we discussed in health committee and again today section 2 is a study, the entire bill is not a study but section 2 is a study so the other sections would indeed go into effect. >> Thank you and I'd like to speak on the bill. >> the lady is recognized to speak on the bill. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker and members I'm on the health committee and I did vote yes on this bill when it was in the committee I have had most timed study and actually reviewed the study section of this bill and I have great concerns about section three which would disqualify children for a mistake or an error or fraud or a dishonesty that an adult committed and I can't take food away from children because their parent made a mistake so tomorrow I'm gonna offer an amendment I'd like for you all to think about that we don't need to study this, about taking food away from children so I'm gonna offer an amendment to remove section 3 tomorrow but today I'll be a no vote. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Scotland Representative Piers rise? >> Ask bill sponsor a question. >> Does the gentleman from Rockingham yield to the gentleman from Scotland? >> I do >> He yields >> Thank you representative. $2500 winnings how much is that at text , do you know the amount that would be taxed and what the person would receive do you have that information? Would you know that? >> I think it would depend on their overall income but, this would be a low income person obviously because of they are on the food stamps to start with so it's possible they may not pay any tax of it. On the state level we have a standard deduction currently that would be greater than that. I think it would depend on the individual case. >> Follow up >> Does the gentleman yield to an additional question I yield >> He yields >> The $2500 wining does that spread out over the year of benefits without a one month. If they won in say May, then they would be penalized in June. Would you know that answer to that? >> Let me see if I can give it a little bit broader answer because you are asking a lot about the $2500 figure. The reason that we came with that is because that's the amount the triggers the federal and state tax reporting four winnings. So that's why the $2500 amount it wasn't just a figure that was taken out of the air. But that triggers the federal and state law. >> Thank you Mr. speaker. To speak on the bill Mr. speaker. >> The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. >> Mr. Speaker ladies and gentleman, I didn't realize that the health committee unanimously voted [UNKNOWN] some of the members and I didn't know that was a hand vote, voice vote so it's obvious that I guess they all agree to do that. But just going back to the point that Rep Insko made about penalizing children for the benefits. There are so many things that we could penalize children for that parents are doing and children cannot be held accountable for the actions of parents. And I think we all would understand that. And I would just hope going forward that you might accept that. In the district that I represent, children are having difficult times and it's just not their fault. So I hope that we would not not go in that direction. For the next point is Mr. Speaker, many of these people, we created the lottery. I was looking at the Representative Stams, he continues to be an advocate against the lottery of the peers. We have trapped a lot of people into this game. But I gave a chance of which they choose to do it. Many of them are just trying to help what we're dealing with. And if they can win 25, 5,000 whatever, now we wanna penalize them. That's kinda strange to me.

We've created this monster, we've given people false hopes. That if you win you know you can get out of poverty and all that and we know it's a game of chance. People have a right to do it. Don't get me wrong, I understand that. But at the same time we wanna come back around and now penalize them for whatever winnings they get. I think we really need to not be hypocritical about his whole lottery piece. Like I said I go with Stam on some of what he said about over the years we've people in this situation and now we wanna find a way to further beat them down and penalize them. So thank you for the Bill but I hope that we can really look at this and if nothing more, let's not penalize our children for the actions of the parents. Thank you Mr Speaker. Thank you ladies and gentlemen. Mr speaker. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Rockingham, Representative Jones rise? >. To ask if my friend Rep Pierce would yield for a question. >> Does the gentleman from Scotland yield yield to the gentleman from Rockingham? >> Yes >> He yields. >> Thank you Rep Pierce. And I wanna tell you I agree with a lot of the eloquent comments that you just made. And I agree with you that, I think the lottery and the entrapments of the lottery and the false promises that are made do entrap people in poverty and make matters worse. And I just wandered in that line or thinking and line of questioning as we try to actually enforce the law here. And let people know that if they're winning the lottery they are gonna have to report back. It seems to me that if you follow the line of thinking that you and I share there that that would be a positive thing that people perhaps would recognize that this isn't some false promise of prosperity but it at least you if you do win you're gonna have to report those earnings. >> Mr Speaker, a follow up. >> The gentleman has the floor to answer the question. >> Representative I've just looked at the bill but I understand your point. I'm not [UNKNOWN] we just have a difference of opinion on some of it but thank you for responding. Thank you sir. >> What purpose does the gentleman from Buncombe, Representative Turner rise? >> To ask the bill sponsor a question. >> Does the gentleman from Rockingham yield to the gentleman from Buncombe? >> I do. >> He yields. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker. My question surrounds more of the timing in terms of how much time does somebody have to self report their winnings versus this report being wrong or sort of caught up in this, so if I win the lottery five grand on Monday, how long do I have to report it and if the DHHS, whoever runs this report in the interim is there a partition I could get kind of caught while I am still within my reporting window. >> Representative that's a good question and we all going to obset the third reading because we do have amendments I can get that answered for you. I am not sure at the top of my head exactly what time frame they have to report it. I know the law is in place that it takes that but that's not part of this bill so we can get that information for you. >>Thank you. >> Chair is gonna temporarily displace the bill. The gentleman from Ash, Representative Jordan recognized for the reading of a representative statement. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker and members of the house. I have a representative statement here recognizing the outstanding achievements of the 2015 [INAUDIBLE] State University Football program. I'd like to read the Representative statement in full. >> The member is recognized. Whereas in 2014 [UNKNOWN] State University moved from the NCWA division one football championship subdivision where it won three consecutive national titles and 18 conference championships to the NCWA division one football bowl subdivision as a member of the Sunbelt Conference. And whereas Appalachian State University finished the 2015 season with an 11 in two record, the best overall record of any North Carolina football bowl subdivision team, And whereas Appalachian State University became the first team to win 11 games in its first season as a bowl eligible member of the football bowl subdivision. And whereas Appalachian State University became the first team in Sunbelt Conference history to win 11 games in a season. And whereas Appalachian State University became the first team to win a bowl game in its first season as a bowl eligible football bowl subdivision member defeating Ohio University 31 to 29 in the Raycom Media Camellia Bowl on December 19th 2015. And whereas only eight of 128 football bowl subdivision teams had more overall wins at Appalachian State University. Where as Appalachian State University finished 33rd overall in the final 2015 associative press poll. And where as Appalachian State University football represents the contentment to athletic and academic excellence. Producing 13 all sunbill/g conference honorees, including Sunnyvale

defensive student athlete of the year Ronald Blair. A fifth round 2016 NFL draft pick by the San Francisco 49ers. And senior line backers Cody McKenny a earn the Sunnyvale conference's highest individual academic honor for male student athlete. The Sunnyvale male postgraduate scholar athlete of the year And now therefore the General Assembly recognizes the outstanding achievements of the Appalachian State University football team during the 2015 season both on the field and in the classroom. Now therefore the General Assembly recognizes the players, coaches and staff for their dedication to success. As a representative of the great state of North Carolina in the Sunbelt Conference. Mr Speaker I commend the statement to you and we have some guests with us today. >> Members we have a number of guests with us today representing Appalachian State University and the chair would like to introduce these folks who are here in the gallery on motion of Representative Jordan and all members. First we have the chance to have Appalachian State University Sherry Edwards. We have members of the Appalachian State board of visitors and the athletic director, Doug Gillen. Would you all please stand so we could welcome you. Thank you for being with us today. >> [APPLAUSE] >> Also a motion of the gentleman from McDowell representative Dawson. The chair is happy to extend the courtesy of the gallery to Matt Engelman who is with Hemophilia of North Carolina would you please stand so that we can welcome you. Thank you for being with us today. >>[APPLAUSE] >> We're now gonna return madam clerk back to house bill 1047. For what purpose does the gentleman from Heywood Representative Queen rise. >> To speak on the Bill and then to offer an amendment. >> The Gentleman is recognized to debate the Bill. >> Thank you. Gentlemen and Ladies of our Chamber, when we think of our Lords prayer, it has three supplications in it, one in the past tense. Forgive us our sins . One in the future tense. Deliver us from evil, and only one in the present tense. Give us this day our daily bread. This is something we all pray. We all present regularly. Daily I would say, most of us in here. This is for everyone. Rich and poor, employed and unemployed black and white, male and female, young and old, give us this day our daily bread is something that none of us can do without. The ones that we need to assist those who are hungry. The need is real in our state. I have heard from manna food bank in my area, you've probably heard from those in your area that their capacity is at the max. They give away every day what they have to give away. They really have no reserve. So with that in mind I offer an amendment. I think it's with the clerk. >> The member is recognized to send forth the amendment the clerk will read. >> Representative Queen moves to amend the bill on page two lines 43 to 44 by rewriting those lines to read. >> The gentleman from Haywood has the floor to debate the amendment. >> Thank you Mr Speaker. This amendment repeals the language that was added in this body at about 4 AM in the technical corrections at the end of last session that eliminated food stamps for able bodied adults. At the time it was spoken of some over 100,000 citizens would be involved in this. This were able bodied adults that meet the criteria the federal criteria the state criteria at the time for food stamps. When we pass that legislation as a technical correction without debate without thought in my opinion we just threw that may of our citizens under the bus that were hungry in need of food assistance.

Whether they were able bodied or not. I'm a son of a father and mother who raised in the depression. Their are plenty of fine able bodied citizens that find themselves without employment, without the sources in need of the one think the Lord's prayer asks as to ask for. Our daily bread, So my food bank tell us this doesn't hurt the able bodied adult. In a punitive mode. As I say I'm not because I know plenty of fine able bodied adults in their lifetimes. Who find themselves in need of food assistance. But it helps it hurts the rest of the community that are food banks and all who are left to pick up the pieces, it hurts the seniors it hurts the children because it just socks up resources that would otherwise be available for them and as I say they are giving away everything they have today they're maxed out. The need is greater than the capacity today in my end of the state. So I would ask you to consider with me, restoring food stamps to those who need it, the hungry whether they are able bodied or not. I encourage you to vote for the amendment. Thank you. >> Chair recognizes there are a lot of lights on. If they are on the amendment please leave your light on. If they are not on the amendment please cut them off. [BLANK_AUDIO] What does the Gentleman from Rocking Ham, Representative Jones rise? >> To speak on the amendment. >> The Gentleman has the floor to debate the amendment. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the house obviously I arise to oppose this amendment. I appreciate my friend's knowledge of the Bible. I thank the quote in this case my be a bit out of it's context. I don't think that there was a food stamp program in mind for all of the folks but anyway, I will just say this, we've heard a lot already about this is gonna affect children. That's my understanding and you don't have to take my word for it if you got your computer in front of you. You can Google Food stamp vote requirements for able body childless adults and I believe what the federal law says that North Carolina also follows is that the work requirements are for able body childless adults so we're not talking about removing children from the roles here we're talking about able bodied childless adults. This chamber has already voted in the past that we were going to reinstate work requirements as the Federal Government allows for an I believe that that is still the right thing to do if this amendment were to pass and I certainly hope that it will not. But would obviously gut the Bill and we would pull the Bill. So I ask that you would oppose this amendment. >> For what reason does the lady from Surry, Representative Stephen's rise. >> To speak on the amendment. >> The lady has the floor to debate the amendment. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker. I think between this amendment and the Bill, it seems that some people are missing the point. Food stamps are for those people who can not otherwise afford food. If you've just won the lottery, hopefully your family will be paying food, that would be one of your priorities. If you are working you should have money to provide food for your family. All of this is about the parental responsibility for the children not the children themselves. It's not the child that qualifies for the food stamps it's the parent who's gone out and spent their money on lottery tickets, or it's the parent who's not working that is the reason we need the food stamps. So I'd ask you oppose the amendment as well. >> For what reason does the gentleman from Durham, Representative Hall rise? >> To speak in support of the Queen amendment. >> The gentleman has the floor to debate the amendment. >> Thank you Mr Speaker, I wanna get back on the amendment and I know we've just had discussion about the bill, but the amendment itself that allows to provide food stamps to those folks who may be not working. As we know we had a stagnant job market. We know in 2008 we had 49 counties who had at least 16% of their population living in poverty under the guidelines and we know now as of 2014 we have 79 counties in North Carolina that now have

families living in poverty at the 16% or greater level. And so I think it's important for us not to understand, I don't know where those 79 counties are. But certainly somebody in this chamber represents the growth in poverty in North Carolina. We've talked about having two North Carolina's, we know that the poverty has increased in North Carolina. This is something that is not a course to us to provide some measure of assistance. And we are talking about just the ability to eat on this amendment, just the ability for this folks to eat food. Are available to work, we don't have jobs for them. The poverty rate is going up, which effects now this growth that is primarily in rural counties. So we know there's been an increase in rural poverty. And think this is a small thing we can do, is that no course to the State of North Carolina. We've given an extra 2 billion to the Washington DC every year that we don't ask to be returned in medicare. And so why would we not let our citizens be able to at least have the dignity to be able to have meal and be able to sustain themselves. So I'd ask you as you look at this, think about those 79 counties, many of you represent them, those rural areas. And this families that we are denying an opportunity to just subsist, not for a policy reason, not for a financial reason. Maybe for some other reason that we can articulate they would be justified. So again I'd ask you to support the amendment, let's at least let North Carolinian be able to eat. >> Members of the body the chair would like to advice you that there is a technical fix on the queen amendment. Line two section law 2015 to 296 has been corrected to the correct section law which is 294. The corrected version should be on your dashboard version right now if you need to refresh that. For what reason does the lady from Orange Representative Insko rise? >> To speak on the amendment. >> The lady may debate the amendment. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker. I wanna make that two clarifications. We have just heard recently that anyone who's working should be buying food for their children. there are plenty of people who are working full time who have children who would qualify for food stamps. So these are not adults who aren't working, most of these are adults who are working. The other thing I want to just clarify that I didn't speak to before is that there are no savings to the state for this program. This program is funded 100% by the federal government. There's no loss to the state. We are losing money. There's only loss to the state if we pass the bill. I don't mean to speaking of the bill, but this is 100% federal funded program. >> For what reason does the gentleman from Rutherford, Rep Hager rise? >> To speak on the amendment. >> The gentleman has the floor to debate the amendment. >> Thank you Mr Speaker. Let's not get confused guys. I got the part that most of the federal law in front of me here. And let me read it to you so you understand what you're voting on. Able bodied childless adults unless they meet certain work criteria. Those work criteria is this. They must work or participate in employment training programs for at least 20 hours a week, basically to try to train these folks to get them where they can go to work. Doesn't mean they have to have a job, it doesn't mean they have to go out and make a salary every week, it says they need to in participating employment training programs. So this is what that read this Quinn Amendment wants to take away to be able to have these people be retrained so they can be responsible adults. So I'd ask you to vote no on the Quin Amendment. [BLANK_AUDIO] >> For what reason does the gentleman from Pennsylvania County Representative Whitmire rise. >> To speak on the amendment. >> Gentleman has the floor to debate in it. >> Folks, very short and sweet, this amendment I oppose. I ask you to oppose it and I think we're getting into theatrics. House bill 318 that included this and the very valid points that you heard most recently that from Representative Hager, are trying to to empower people to use their God given talents to use the soil and the sweat of their brow to make their lives better and provide for their family. And the mood that will be unsanitized that for those who are able bodied as the definition shows, we hurt everyone. Please oppose this amendment. [BLANK_AUDIO] Further discussion, further debate.

Seeing none the question for the House is the Queen amendment of House Bill 1047. Those in favor will vote aye, those opposed will vote no. The clerk will open the vote. [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] Clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 40 in the positive, 72 in the negative, the amendment fails we are back on the bill. >> Mr Speaker? >> Representative Dickson for what purpose do you rise? >> I had a problem, please record me as voting no. >> Representative Dickson will be recorded as voting no on the Queen amendment. Representative Lucas of Cumberland, for what purpose do you rise? >> To see if Representative Jones will yield for a question. >>Representative Jones, do you yield to the question? >> I yield. He yields. >> Thank you Representative Jones. I am wondering if the provisions of this legislation would include county [UNKNOWN] taxes, for those who owe and for those who owe state the federal income taxes. [BLANK_AUDIO] >> Representative, I'm not sure I understand your question. Perhaps you could clarify. >> We are making reference to those who have lottery winnings and that we're making sure that their field of owing is cleared as it relates to I believe food stamps and this kind of thing. I'm wondering if the same scrutiny would apply to those who owe [UNKNOWN] Taxes at the county level and our state of Federal income taxes. >> Okay Representative. Thank you for the question. Let me just clarify someone said earlier 2500 ml. The amount was actually 2250. But that is the amount that triggers federal and state tax reporting for such winnings. And currently the federal law states that if a person is on these benefits that they are required. That's already a federal law. This does not change that at all. That they are required to report such changes in income or changes in money coming in to the house, however you will. So all this bill does is actually put teeth into that law. And it in section one it requires both the lottery commission and the DHHS to work together to make sure that that is being done. So that if a person doesn't report it Then the lottery commission is reporting those winnings in excess. >> Follow up. >> Follow up does the gentleman yield? >> I yield. >> He yields. >> Would you be amenable to an amendment that would require the same for those who owe the taxes that we just enumerated. >> Yes. >> Representative I would have to look at that and see how it relates to the bill. We're going to object to third reading so we would have time between now and tomorrow to do that. >> Thank you. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Pitt Representative Murphy arise. >> To be recorded as having voted no on the Queen amendment. >> Gentleman we recorded as voting no on the queen amendment. For what reason does the gentleman from Vans Representative Baskerville arise. >> To ask representative Jones a question. >> Representative Jones does he yield do a question. >> I yield. >> He yields. >> Thank you Mr speaker. Representative Jones, looking at the first secrton 1B looks like 28. I'm sorry. Page tow of the bill starting at line five. Representative Jones the bill requires that the department conduct further review to determine possible fraudulent misrepresentation by the applicant or the recipient. That is lines nine and ten. The department shall conduct further review to determine possible fraudulent misrepresentation is that a requirement that the department can conduct criminal investigations about fraudulent representation. >> Representative doesn't say that it is so that I believe the answer is no. >> Oliver. >> Does the Gentleman yield. >> I yield. >>The Gentleman yields. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker. What other further review are you anticipating by that particular language?

>> Representative Baskerville I probably don't have the expertise to give in to the weeds and the details. I do know that in states where this has been done, that when this particular type of abuse was uncovered, that at times, it led to investigation that found other things. So I don't know specifically what the DHHS would do, but I think it might red flag that there may be unreported revenues coming into the household and apparently, in other states, that has been the case. That's about the best answer I can give you. >> One final follow up and then I'd like to make some remarks. >> Does the gentleman yield to a filing follow up? >> I yield. >> He yields. >> Representative Jones, do we have an incarceration note associated with this bill? >> We do not have an incarceration note associated with this bill. >> Thank you. >> I'd like to make some brief remarks. >> The gentleman may debate the bill. >> Thank you Mr.Speaker. Well, in fact, ladies and gentlemen in the chamber, Those lines in this bill are requiring the department to conduct criminal investigations to see if the applicants have fraudulently misrepresented their status, their income level. When you conduct investigations into criminal activities there results in prosecutions. When you prosecute folks for violating the law that leads to incarceration. And so I just want everyone to understand or to try to take this bill to its logical conclusion. You got a poor person somehow hit the lucky day, and hit the stroke of a lifetime, and hit a lottery winner. You got $2200. It's a big deal, okay. So this person may be working in a job where they are not earning all the money that they can take care of their family and so they're relying on some benefits to fill in the gaps there. They're worrying about buying those groceries, they're worrying about taking care of those kids. Calling the department of health and human services might be on the back of their mind. They might not be on the forefront for the them to call and just say, listen, I just won $2200. Is this gonna affect the food that I can put on the table? Let's say they forget to call, forget to tell about that $2200. Now you have a department investigating them for fraudulent misrepresentation that could be a misdemeanor, that could be a felony, which carries jail time. So somebody that's just playing the lottery won $2250 to try to put some food on the table, they might mess around and end up going to prison behind this bill. Now we say that we are just trying to be in compliance with the federal law. We wanna be in compliance with the federal law, this is what the federal law is saying for us to do. Representative Hager, in the federal law does it require us to then require the lottery department to check and see the welfare status of any recipient? That's not in the federal law. It's probably not in there for a reason. If following up on what Rep Lucas was hitting on, a very very pressing point if you ask me. The different treatment in terms of misrepresentation, cause that is what this bill is about. Someone getting benefits, representing themselves to be in need of benefits and getting benefits from the state. Even though they might not be entitled to that benefit. They've misrepresented their stats. There was a big time investigation maybe about a year ago, great reporting done in our Riley newspaper news and observer about a different type of misrepresentation. There is causing the state a lot more that $2250, that was the misrepresentation by businesses misclassifying their employees as independent contractors. So they don't have to pay any payroll taxes. That cost the state, are you all ready for this? $ 467 million. >> Mr. Speaker. >> In 2013. >> Gentlemen. the gentleman from Vance for what purpose does Representative Luis rise? >> Are any of the gentlemen's remarks germane to this bill? >> The gentlemen from Harnett is correct,

I would ask the gentleman from Vance to remain on the bill and not into other items. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker if we are trying, to crack down on misrepresentation, which is where this bill is attempting to do. Let's crack down on all types of misrepresentations. This bill is about misrepresenting your status in order to gain a benefit. Let's crack down on all all misrepresentation of statuses. Not just that poor person, that had the luckiest day of their life and got a $2200 lottery win, you can add up all the $2200 lottery winners that we've had all year and you'll never add up to $467 million. You can add up all the people that won any money off a lottery, all these poor folks, and I contend to you that it's gonna cost us more money in investigating them and prosecuting them, than we could possibly anticipate to gain with this legislation. We are targeting the least among us, the most vulnerable among us. I hope that. >> Mr Speaker between second and third. >> Will the gentleman will yield? For what purpose does the gentleman from Wake rise? >> Would represent Backserville for question. >> Does the gentleman yield? >> Yes. >> He does. >> Representative Baskerville did you realize that the lottery law already requires that Department of Revenue be contacted and back child support be contacted for lottery winners? [BLANK_AUDIO] >> Thank you Representative Stam for that question. [BLANK_AUDIO] The other votable classes in our society. The other least of this. He's without a father. Kids that don't have parents. Who else would you name Representative Stanma, I forgot cuz I didn't hear after the first vulnerable class that you pointed out there. Secondly, thank you for that question Representative Stam because I am well aware of the other triggers that the lottery commission is required to go through. That's not what my point is about. My point is about, let's have a department of labor, check the status and misrepresentation of all this independent contractors and employees before they can get [CROSSTALK] Before they get any benefits from the state. >> The Chair will remind the gentleman stay to the bill. >> I am aware of that Representative Stan, I think that makes my point. Thank you. For what purpose does the lady from Wilson, Representative Farmer Butterfield rise? >> To ask the bill sponsor a question. Where is he? [LAUGH] >> He is. We are gonna get important [BLANK_AUDIO] Representative Jones, Representative Farmer-Butterfield would like to profound a question. Do you yield? >> I yield. >> He yields >> I'm not gonna pound the question, I'm gonna ask it. [LAUGH] >> Thank you. >> Representative Jones, we did not discuss the fact that if we're talking about one person's net income in a household, we're talking about somewhat $981 at the meeting the other day in health, did we? >> Representative, could you repeat that question? I just could not hear you. I'm sorry. >> I want to make sure that it's clear whether or not we talked about the net income for people who qualify for food and nutrition program at the meeting. The amount is $981 and we discussed that the other day at the meeting on health. >> We did not. That's not part of the bill. >> Right, so for the net income for four people to be eligible for food stamps- >> Will the lady like to ask another another question. >> Yes. I'm getting ready to, that's what I'm doing. >> Does the gentleman yield? >> I yield. >> He yields. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker. So for the net income for four people who qualify for food stamps, are we talking about $24,000 approximately a year? >> Representative I do not have those numbers in front of me. I'm sorry I can't answer that question. If you have those numbers then maybe you need to debate the Bill, not ask me the question. But I don't have the numbers. >> Thank you. May I debate the Bill?

Lady is recognized to debate the Bill. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker. I was indeed at the help committee meeting and after the meeting, Representative Earl and I talked about her question during the health committee meeting, which was basically a question about the $2,250 and whether or not that amount was reasonable. And since that time we've done further study on this. And we concluded that neither one of us could actually live on the net income of $11, 772 and we doubted if any of the members of this body could do that as well. So what I am wanting to talk with the bill sponsor about is whether or not an amendment could be introduced and I plan to talk with him after this meeting. >> Introduce an amendment tomorrow on this issue. Thank you. >> For what reason does the gentleman from Robinson Representative Price rise? >> As the bill sponsor question Mr. Speaker. >> Does Representative Jones yield to the question? >> I yield. >> He yields. >> Representative Jones, I'm having a concern with section three. If you could help me understand that. Disqualification for non compliance works with requirements for food and nutritional benefits, what are those requirements? >> For three months, in the first case of noncompliance, six months for the second infraction, one year for the third and permanent disqualification for the fourth occurrence. >> Can I restate that question? Mr. Speaker. >> Does the gentleman yield? >> I yield. >> He yields. >> My question is, what's the work requirements? >> Representative I believe that it's 20 hours per week, but as Rep Hager said earlier it's not just a work requirement but it's an opportunity. If you don't have a job to be able to receive training and I was gonna mention this at some point but while I'm answering the question I think all of us, we hear constantly and we want to believe the best in everyone. And we hear that people if they don't have a job they want a job, they wanna work, and I believe that is true for most people. And what this does is give people the opportunity to get the training. It doesn't say that they have to necessarily work but it does say they necessarily need to b ding something that will help make them employable. And I would think that they would welcome that and not remain on government benefits and so it is 20 hours per week but it's not only work but it's actually striving for work or to learn to be employable. >> Well, fall out Mr. Speaker. >> Does the chairman yield? >> I yield. >> This is actually applied to folks who are unemployed and they can't find work. [BLANK_AUDIO] Representative it might, it just says that there are able bodied adults and they are not working, so then again if they are not working, they need to be receiving some kind of training program during that time. >> Follow up. >> Does the gentleman yield? >> I yield. >> He yields. >> And this is a question again. Find the purpose the right way. If I am unemployed and I am out seeking on employment, can't find work. I am going to be penalized for not being able to find work and my children are going to have food on the table cause I am unfortunate one and I live in a high poverty area and I can't find work, and I am trying my best to find work. I am going to be penalized and my children are not going to have food on the table, is that what you are saying? >> No sir, I believe that I am saying the opposite. I am saying that if you don't have a job and you can't find work you have the opportunity to be trained in some way to be more employable. And that is a provision and I would just. I would add for everyone's benefit that most of the arguing that I have been hearing has to do with federal law, federal work requirements that North Carolina goes along with and I know there was a period of time where that was North Carolina departed from that but again it's either work or training. >> So i need to just continue with this. >> Does the gentleman yield? >> I yield. >> He does. >> I live in a situation or I live in a county where there's no work, there's no training programs,

there's no transportation, there's no support. I have three children and this says four households disqualified. Four households to put Manhattan with this. For what my question to you Representative Jones is and you are a christian man I know you are, what about the children? >> Mr speaker point of order. >> Please state your point of order. >> I believe we are getting for a field of the one bill and number two questioning the motives as an improper manner here. >> I would ask the gentleman to rephrase his question not to question the gentleman's honor, however he may compound >> Let me re-state the question. >> Thank you sir. >> What about. >> Mr speaker. >> Yes sir Representative Jones please [INAUDIBLE]. >> May I ask that the bill be pulled from today's calendar and re-calendar it for tomorrow. >> So ordered. [BLANK_AUDIO] For what purpose does the gentleman from Pitt Representative Murphy arise. Members we are awaiting a Senate joint resolution to come over from the Senate, the chair is informed that the resolution has passed but that I don't believe the houses in possession of the resolution so we are going to stand at ease for a few moments. What purpose does the gentleman from Harnett Representative Louis arise. >> On announcement. >> The gentleman has the floor for an announcement. >> Mr speaker five minutes after the adjournment of the house the committee on rules calendar and operations of the house will meet in room 1228 we will consider two bills the first is house bill 1149 to confirm [INAUDIBLE] to the boarder review and the second is Senate bill 382 show title RFI privatization of ferry system. For what purpose does the gentleman from [INAUDIBLE] representative Ford arise. >> To make an announcement. >> The gentleman has the floor for an announcement. >> Local government will meet tomorrow at 11 AM in 643 as local government tomorrow morning at 11 AM we have seven bills. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Duplin Representative Dickson rise? >> For an announcement. >> The gentleman has the floor for an announcement. >> Mr speaker, members of the house I just like to remind you that tomorrow the North Carolina [INAUDIBLE] industry leaders and allied partners have invited us to a reception beginning at 5:30 PM at the North Carolina Museum of History. Let's support their efforts to put us in front of their [UNKNOWN] Leaders and attain that there are other activities. After that, but we should be able to participate in that event at 5:40. Thank you. >> [INAUDIBLE] Says the gentlemen from Johnston, Representative Daughtry rise. >> To make an announcement. >> The gentleman has the floor for an announcement. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker. Judiciary one will not meet tomorrow, will not meet tomorrow. [BLANK_AUDIO] >> Members, the house is now in possession of the Resolution. However, the family members haven't arrived. So we're gonna continue top stand at ease. [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] Special message from the Senate the clerk will read. >> [BLANK_AUDIO] Senate joint resolution 893, first edition of joint resolution on in honor of the life and memory of [UNKNOWN] of the Senate. >> Calendar and without objection to today's calendar so ordered. [BLANK_AUDIO] Madam clerk cheer directs that SENATE BILL 881, The Union County School Funding Bill be removed from House committee on education K12 and sent to the House committee on local government. >> [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO]

Members while we are awaiting other guest chair we would like to extend the courtesies of the gallery on behalf of Rep Bell, Dixon and Larry Bell. The chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to former house member Phil Badour/g He's in the back of the chamber. God to see you Rep Badour. >> [APPLAUSE] [BLANK_AUDIO] >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Duplin, Representative Dickson rise? >> For an announcement. >> Gentleman has the floor for an announcement. >> Ladies and gentlemen of The House, we have a tremendous victory, to announce- >> Just a moment representative Dickson [SOUND] >> Gentlemen has the floor. >> We have the opportunity to announce a great victory today for the North Carolina House. We whooped the senate bad with our big mouth representatives in the milk drinking contest, Jonathan Jordan, dean [UNKNOWN] Job well done gentlemen. >> [APPLAUSE] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [SOUND] The house will come back to order. Senate joint resolution 893, the clerk will read. >> Senators T. Davis, and Pitt, senate joint resolution 893, a join resolution honoring the life and memory of [UNKNOWN] Former president [INAUDIBLE] of the senate. The senate resolves the house the concur. >> Members we are taking up a joint resolution the chair had asked that all members take their seats. The chair also directs that the clerk read the resolution in it's entirety. >> A joint resolution honoring the life and memory of [UNKNOWN] former president of the senate. Whereas [INAUDIBLE] was born on November 18th, 1934 in Bladen County to Reverend [INAUDIBLE] was educated at [INAUDIBLE] and University of North Carolina Chapel Hill where he received a Bachelor of Arts Degree in 1959 and Juris Doctor degree in 1961. And whereas Hudson T. Burns proudly served his country in the united states army as a pra-topple from 1953, 1956 and his distinguished service received citations and letters commendation from retaliation regimental. Individual commands and whereas Hudson T. Burns was a successful attorney and farmer and whereas Hudson T. Burns was the funding member of the Goldsboro law firm of Burns, Braswell/g, Heath Cook and Warren now known as Heith/g Cook bar-field field Hulse Kensy and where as Hudson T. Burns served on a North Carolina energy policy council in the North Carolina courts commission was [UNKNOWN] community civic and fraternal organizations including the Masonic order, Shriners, Elks, American Legion [UNKNOWN] club and was the president of Goldberg/g JCs, magical atrocity of Woodman of the world and legal adviser to the rescue squad and whereas Hudson T. Burns was active and professional in agricultural organizations serving as member of Wayne County bar association, North Carolina bar association and North Carolina [INAUDIBLE] of trial lawyers, and Mecklenburg Bar Association and serving on the board of governors of North Carolina Bar Association, both as directors of North Carolina Blueberry Association and North Carolina Great Growers Association, and whereas Hudson T. Burns served with honor and distinction as a member of the General Assembly, and House of Representatives from 1975 to 1976 and in the senate from 1977 to 1992, and whereas during his tenure in the general assembly Hudson T.

Burns focused on such issues relating to environment, education, and transportation, and chair numerous committees and whereas Hudson T. Burns earns his respect and admiration from the members of the general assembly who elected him President of the Senate from 1988 to 1992 and whereas Hudson T. Burns was a recipient o numerous honors and awards including honorary doctorate [INAUDIBLE] in 1979, legislative award for excellence in Governance Crime Commission in 1983, outstanding North Carolina Policy Association in 1985, [INAUDIBLE] man of the year in 1985 the United States Great American Family of the Year Award presented by Nancy Reagan at the White House in 1985, National Environment Award, take pride in America presented by President Ronald Reagan at the White House in 1987, legislature award [INAUDIBLE] of North Carolina Trade Association in 1987, and legislature of the year from the North Carolina School Council Association in 1990, and whereas Hudson T. Burns was a member of the First Baptist Church of [INAUDIBLE] where he served as a deacon, Sunday School teacher, and member of the budget and finance board, and whereas Hudson T. Burns was preceded by his wife [INAUDIBLE] Alan Burns and were sensitive on his diet on November 22, 2015 at the age of 81 and whereas Hudson T. Burns survived by his daughter Rebecca, Lee/g Kingsley [INAUDIBLE] Patrick and three grandchildren, John Kingsley III, Jonathan Bab/g Jr. and Brooke Bab/g will be resolved by the Senate. The House of Representatives concurring Section one the General Assembly of North Carolina [INAUDIBLE] And expresses his appreciation of his accomplishments and distinguished service and rendered [INAUDIBLE] State of North Carolina and the Nation. Section two the General Assembly extends deepest sympathies to the family and friends of Hudson T. Burns for loss of a loved family member and friend. Section three the sector state shift transmits certified copy of these resolution to the family of Hudson T. Burns section four this resolution effective upon ratification. >> The gentleman from Wayne representative Bell is recognized. >> Thank you Mr. Speaker and members of the body on today is the and over to last two weeks you know that we have read resolutions honoring three members that have served in this body and the senate and from our home county in Wayne county. And our county is a better place today our Ridge is better place today because of their service. And so first of all I wanna thank the family for being here today and I wanna thank you for supporting Senator Burns served the state of North Carolina and this is Wayne county. His mark as to the resolution that you've heard has been left in many different ways. And what he brought forth to the table has made our state a better place. And so I just wanna say thank you, but thank you to the family for being here, thank you for your support and also I commend the resolution of the members about it. Thank you Mr. Speaker. >> For what purpose does the general from Johnson, representative Geoffrey Rice. >> Speak on the resolution. >> The gentleman has the floor to debate the resolution. >> Hudson Burns was a great man. I had a great honor of serving in the Senate and he was a principled [INAUDIBLE] of the Senate and there was no nicer person whose day was always open to everyone. I was so naive that when I first got in the Senate that I became a member of the appropriations committee and the finance committee. >> [LAUGH] >> That's completely the dumbest thing you can do and so [INAUDIBLE] came to see me and said you what, if I were you I would take one of the other I would serve in both of those committees [INAUDIBLE] so that's the kind of guy he was, he was a great a fellow, I know when hiss father died he was, I think he was a free will baptist minister and I went to the funeral to see Senator Burns' father's funeral and to hear the words and he came from a great family, a great religious family and Senator Burns loved farming. He loved raising blue berries, he talked to me about when he got out of the Senate he was going to go back to [INAUDIBLE] county and raise blue berries because he believed that that was a great way to handle [INAUDIBLE] and that's what he did and I'm so honored to have known him and I certainly recommend that you vote for this resolution, thank you Mr Speaker. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Wake Representative Stam rise? >> Speak on the resolution. >> The gentleman has the floor to debate the resolution. >> Member Senator Burns was a gentleman, a great lawyer, a great legislator. I had the privilege of serving two years with him in 89/90, he was the all powerful Democratic head of the senate and I was the most junior

freshman Republican. He couldn't do something I asked him to do, so I went to see him I was so naive. He explained to me for 10 or 15 minutes to a freshman Republican why he couldn't do it. Do you get the irony there folks. He was a [LAUGH] He was really great man and a great, had a great family. >> Further discussion, further debate. If not the question for the house is the adoption of senate joint resolution 893 on its second reading. Those in favor will vote aye, those opposed will vote no, the clerk will open the vote. [BLANK_AUDIO] The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 105 having voted in the affirmative, and none in the negative, senate joint resolution 893 passes its second reading and will without objection be read a third time. >> The senate resolve house concurring. >> Further discussion, further debate, if not question for the house is the passage of senate joint resolution 893. Those in favor will say aye. >> Aye. >> Those opposed no. The ayes have it, senate joint resolution 893 having passed its third serving the bills ordered enrolled, >> Members on motion of all members of the house the chair is happy to extend the courtesies of the gallery to family members of former Senator Hudson Burns they are as follows, I would ask that you all please stand so we can welcome you. His daughter Rebecca Kinsey, and her husband Jay, grandson John Kinsey, brother Roger Burns, sisters Joan Stevens, [INAUDIBLE] and Amanda Burns nephew, the Honourable Edgar L. Barnes Chief District Court Judge for the first Judicial District of Dare County and a number of other guests in the gallery. We ask that you all please stand and I'll ask my colleagues to please join me to welcome you. >> [APPLAUSE] >> And to the family members the chair would like to speak to a point of personal privilege and that is that back in 1990 and 1991 I was actually an intern in the Senate and for a professional republican member who had an office smaller than the area that I'm sitting in right now and I want you to know that Senator Burns was one of the most gracious and kind people that I knew he was very kind to all the interns he took a lot of time with us and he actually gave me an office larger than the Senator I was working for so I haven't forgotten that either but he was I think it says a lot that the comments being made about Senator Burns and what a good person he was and how kind he was to people and frankly I think that any of us in this chamber and any of us who served that that's the kind of thing that we want have said about us so we are honored to have you all with us today, thank you for being with us. >> [APPLAUSE] >> Notices and announcements? For what purpose does the gentleman from Wake representative Martin rise? >> To speak to a point of personal privilege. >> Thank you very much Mr. speaker. Members 241 years ago today on June 14th 1775. The founding fathers of our great nation assembled in congress brought into being a mighty fighting force to defend our country. Over a year before the declaration of independence, four months before Roger West united State Navy weighed anchor on its first pleasure cruise with Captain Stephen, Goffer, Julie and Dock five months before someone decided they'd pick up a drunken land scope of George Cleveland off the floor of pan tavern, stick him in a pretty blue uniform and thereby create the United States Marine Corps. >> [LAUGH] >> Over a century and a half before the creation of the world's premier builder of golf courses was founded Chris Whitmire United States

Air Force. A force whose commander was the father of our country, General George Washington. A force whose veterans include President Dwayde/g [UNKNOWN] and Hailey S. Trumen, and Governor Terry Sanford, a force that turned Mickey Mitchell and Bill Brawley into two of the meanest SOBs around. >> [LAUGH] >> A force that knows that you don't need a bow and a toner shop when you have Gale Pendelton behind the controls of main battle tank. >> [LAUGH] >> A force that taught Elmer Floyd to be intolerant of delay and the wasting of time. >> [LAUGH] >> A force that taught John Szoka, John Blust and Garland Pierce how to jump out of a perfectly good airplane. If only the Air Force had any perfectly good airplanes Greg Horne, a force that made the late Irene Palmen, tough as nails and harder than wood [INAUDIBLE] a force that won our nation's freedom at York Town that landed a nominee and liberated Europe, a force that was first into Afghanistan. A force that counts amongst it's leaders, George Washington, Ulysses S. Grant, George Patton, James Gavin, Douglas McArthur and Matthew Ridgeway. A force who's men and women are today defending America in 150 countries around the world. Join me today to honor the 241st anniversary of the creation of the mightiest fighting force ever seen in the world, America's oldest service, America's finest service, the United States Army Corp. >> [APPLAUSE] >> For what purpose does the lady from Wake Representative Abner arise. >> For an announcement. >> The lady has the floor for an announcement. >> Thank you Mr speaker ladies and gentlemen the developmental disabilities caucus will have its inaugural meeting tomorrow morning at 11 O'clock in room 2226 which is unofficially known as Representative Geda's conference room, if you have any questions please let me know, thank you. >> For what purpose does the gentleman from [INAUDIBLE] Representative Specially/g arise. >> A point of personal privilege. >> The gentleman is recognized to speak to a point of personal privilege, and the army was created and then the government figured out what they did wrong and four months later the marines came into being. >> [LAUGH] >> For what purpose does the gentleman from Mecklenburg Representative Geda rise? >> For an announcement. >> The gentleman has the floor for an announcement. >> House banking committee will meet tomorrow morning at 8:30 in room 544. [BLANK_AUDIO] >> Further notices and announcements. The gentleman from Harnett Representative Louis is recognized for a motion. >> Mr speaker subject to receipt of messages from the senate conference reports for referral of bills and resolutions, the appointment of conferees, committee appointments and he reading of representative statements. I move that the house adjourn to reconvene Wednesday June 15th at 2:00 PM >> Representative Lewis moves seconded by Rep Stetzer that the house be now adjourned subject to receipt of messages from the senate committee reports, conference reports, rereferral of those resolutions, appointment of conferees, committee appointments and the reading of representative statements to reconvene Wednesday June 15th at 2:00 PM Those in favor will say Aye >> Aye >> Those opposed No? >> No. >> The Ayes have it. We stand adjourned [SOUND] [BLANK_AUDIO]