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House | June 24, 2014 | Committee Room | Transportation Appropriations

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Good morning. It being a little after twelve, and a quorum being present, the House committee on Transportation will come to order. We are served with pages today, Lily Gupton from Franklin, Haley Hillison from Wake, Cammy Holland from Guilford, Hannah Landy from Wake, Anna Marujo from Guilford, and Griffin Matsuo from Wake. Our Sergeants-at-arms today are Bill Bass, Joe Crook, Warren Hawkins, and Jesse Hayes, Brenda Carter and Giles Perry are our staff, and Lynn Taylor and Carla Farmer are committee clerks. First the chair would like to add a bill to today's agenda, if there's no objection, this is Represe- Would the committee come to order, please? This would be Senate bill 8-64 is a local bill on the use of ATVs on the roads in Yancyville, Sen. Woodard is the primary sponsor, and it's fairly noncontroversial but we are getting copies prepared. If there's no objection, we will add that. Hearing none, first bill will be HB 1097, Rep. Iler will present for Rep. Torbett. Rep. Iler moves that PCS to House bill 1097 be before the committee, all in favor say "aye"? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Opposed? The PCS Is now properly before the committee. Rep. Iler, you have the floor. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Chairman. I'm substituting for Rep. Torbett, who let me know recently that I would be presenting these two bills. They don't seem highly controversial, they're bills that, provisions that DMV asked for and 1097 allows the divison to serve hearing orders in dealer and salesman hearings in a variety of ways instead of by rule 4 of the NC rules of civil procedure. Licences, theft - let me get to my bill - it authorizes the DMV to place a licence issued on a motor vehicle, dealers and manufacturer's licence of law on probation, and it is as probation to the different fines and so forth they can do. In other words they can deny, suspend, place on probation, or revoke a license issued under this article if any of the following reasons. And it lists the reasons in the bill there: a dealer or salesman can be suspended or placed on probation. It just adds the probation to the list of penalties that can be invoked in this case. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Other questions for the bill's sponsor for the staff? Rep. Reives. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Chair. And in completely in support of the bill, think it's a wonderful bill, only question I had, and maybe for staff, is on section 1, number 10, when you say "submitting a bad check" is that gonna be a worthless check as defined in criminal statutes, or bad check as we traditionally talk, just a check that is not supported by funds. I'm just trying to figure out who the burden's going to be on for that one to prove. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I believe this is existing statute, but does staff have an answer for that? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes, thank you Mr. Chairman. That is existing law as one of the standards for which the Division of Motor Vehicles can use to suspend or take action on license. It does not require a conviction, the current law doesn't require a conviction it just says "submitting a bad check to the Division of Motor Vehicles." [SPEAKER CHANGES] Okay, and that is- [SPEAKER CHANGES] Follow up? [SPEAKER CHANGES] No follow up, thank you. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? Rep. Iler moves that the adoption of House bill 1097 proposed committee substitute unfavorable to the original bill, this will be reported to the floors. So many as favor the motion say "aye"? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Opposed, "no"? Motion carries, the bill is adopted. Second bill is HB 1157, electronic drivers license ammendment, Rep. Iler. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Chairman. This bill is expressing a surge in drivers license renewals due to extension of renewal process (recording ends)

… five years to eight years, which passed in 2007. In the coming years they expect a surge – 1.4 million additional renewals next year, 1.2 the following year. In order to meet the demand and provide quality customer service, the division is seeking the authority to offer renewals online. Tennessee, Virginia, Georgia and others offer this service. Commissioner Thomas has taken an aggressive agenda to become customer-friendly, and this is a step in that direction. So this just adds online renewal in the future to the existing methods by which you may renew your license. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Representative Larry Pittman. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just wanted to ask the bill sponsor… just had a question for clarification about the photo portion of it. If you don’t go in and have another picture taken, you just… like am I going to be able to look 60 the rest of my life if I keep doing it this way, or what? [SPEAKER CHANGES] That’s a good question. I don’t think anybody’s here from the department, the DMV who can answer that, but I would suspect that you would look 60 for a long time based on this. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Please state your name and your title, sir. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, sir. I’m Kelly Thomas, the Commissioner of Motor Vehicles. By federal statute, your photo ID is good for 16 years, and that’s how we would… Whatever your photo was on your last in-person renewal, that would be the photo you used on your online renewal. [SPEAKER CHANGES] And if I may ask Mr. Thomas a question… [SPEAKER CHANGES] The gentleman’s recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I assume that if a person has a concern they don’t look like their license, they may come in and get a replacement photo? Is that possible? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes sir. Kelly Thomas again. We have a lot of customers that want to redo their photo, even though they may have the opportunity to do it online. In that case they may come into the office, we’d take a new photo and they would get a new driver’s license. Of course if they did it in person, that right now is an eight year renewal period, and there will be a new license available as of December this year. It’s called the Next Generation Secure Driver’s License. It will be an upgrade from the PVC license you’re carrying in your pocket today. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Any other questions for the Commissioner? Representative Stone’s recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Chair. Obviously this has worked in our surrounding states and we’ve been able to move with the new technology. I do have concerns with the fraud. With now it’s on email or internet as well, there’s a potential for a lot of fraud or abuse or stolen IDs, and I guess my question is what are surrounding states doing, or how do they find a way to handle that situation, and are we prepared to do the same? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Yes sir. Again, Kelly Thomas. A good question. Much like you do banking online today, the secure mode by which you commit or take a transaction online would be the same that you would do to apply for your driver’s license. Today online capabilities, we can renew your vehicle registration online. The next step of this to do identification online, you would have one more added step, a pin number for example, that would be only assigned to you and authorized for you to change out addresses and update your date online. All PCI-compliant. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Follow-up? Further discussion? Representative Wilkins, I apologize, and then… [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Chair, and this may be for staff. For some reason, every bit of this language seems very, very familiar to me. Could someone tell me if a couple years ago we had a larger, more inclusive bill that included some of this very same language? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Mr. Perry. Excuse me, Ms. Carter. [SPEAKER CHANGES] There’s a similar provision in place now for people who are in the military, either active or reserved, or for residents of the state who reside outside the state, so there are some instances where people can already renew. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Chair. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Good catch, Winkie. Representative Ford. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Chairman. For the bill sponsor, maybe staff, does this affect our photo voter ID bill in anyway? [SPEAKER CHANGES] Well for my part, I don’t see how it would, but staff, answer that also? [SPEAKER CHANGES] No, I don’t believe it has any effect on that. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? The motion before the committee is the approval…

... a favorable report for House Bill 1157, reporting to the floor. So many as favor the motion say aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Opposed, no. Motion carries. House Bill 1190, DPS Study Commercial Vehicle Safety. Representative Dixon’s recognized to present the bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Chair and members of the committee. This bill does exactly what the title says. This came out of the agriculture and forestry study group. We believe that there are additional advantages that we can take from participating in the Commercial Vehicle Safely Alliance of North America. The department and patrol stand ready to help us analyze what we’re doing at this time and suggest ways that we can improve it, both for the betterment of our commercial operators as well as for public safety. I’d be willing to ask to entertain any questions. There is no opposition; this is a good bill. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Further discussion, further debate? Representative Brown’s recognized. [SPEAKER CHANGES] For a motion when appropriate. [SPEAKER CHANGES] It’s appropriate, sir. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move House Bill 1190 favorable. [SPEAKER CHANGES] That’s it, with referral to the floor. The motion before the committee is the favorable approval of House Bill 1190, referred to the floor. So many as favor the motion say aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Opposed, no. The bill carries. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you Mr. Chairman, members of the committee. [SPEAKER CHANGES] The addition to our committee agenda today is Senate Bill 864, Yanceyville ATV. Senator Woodard, welcome to the House, sir. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Well it’s nice to come over to the chamber that does some work once in a while, so since ours is… well never mind. Thank you Mr. Chairman for hearing me at the last moment here on this bill. Fairly straightforward local bill. As you can see from the text, a number of local governments have exemptions to be able to drive their ATVs within their corporate limits to take care of city maintenance, and the town of Yanceyville simple requested to be added to that list of exemptions. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Any questions for the bill sponsor? Representative Jeter, is that a motion? [SPEAKER CHANGES] As long as it doesn’t involve mopeds, I have a motion when ready. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I think it’s appropriate, sir. [SPEAKER CHANGES] I move for a favorable report to Senate Bill 864 with I believe a referral to the floor. [SPEAKER CHANGES] That is correct, sir. The motion before the committee is favorable approval, Senate Bill 864 with a referral to the floor. So many as favor the motion say aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Aye. [SPEAKER CHANGES] Opposed, no. Motion carries. That is the end of our agenda and we are adjourned.