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House | August 13, 2015 | Chamber | House Session

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[xx] the house will come to order members will take their seats business will chamber the Sergeant at Arm will close the door, members and visitors are asked to please silence all electronic devices. Today's prayer will be offered by [xx] who is an intern for Representatives Szoka and Representative Dortery, we'll ask all all members and all visitors in the gallery to please stand for the prayer and remain standing for the pledge of allegiance Father in Jesus name I thank for every individual under the sound of my voice that we're made your image Father I thank you that your grace and mercy is new everyday, I thank you for your unconditional love that nothing can separate us from the love that you have for us, I thank you that you are suffering remain on the throne, that without you Father we are nothing but with you all things are possible. I pray that you'll align our hearts to do your will Father because not our will will be done but yours, I pray we will consult you before every decision just like the founding fathers of this country did. You are amazing God you're the alpha and omega the beginning and the end the one who's who's to come, I pray this in the mighty name of Jesus. Amen. I pledge elligence to the prayer of the United State of America through the republic which it stands, one nation under God indivisible for [xx] justice for all. The gentleman from Hornet representative Luis is recognized for a motion Mr. Speaker the Journal for August 12 has been examined and found to be correct I move that it will be approved as written. ladies and gentlemen the let us submit the journal for August 12 be approved as written, those in favor will say aye, those opposed no, the ayes have it, the journal is approved as written ratification of bills and resolutions the Clerk will read. [xx] presentation for the governance Senate Bill 448 an Act to equalize taxation, liquefy propane gas with use as a motor fuel. Senate Bill 560 an Act to authorize the director have aborted to continue expenditures for the operation of government and to this level effective of June 30th, 2015 until August 31st 2015. Senate bill 699 an act to protect certain personal information laws enforcement officers from disclosure. House 13 an act to require each job presented for a motion into the public for the first time to submit proof of her health assessment to require that absence due to the failure to reserve the health assessment transmittal form not reserved in suspicion make up the work missed to specify what information she have to include in the health assessment transmittal form and who was authorized to have access to the form, and to require the Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Public Instruction to amend the health assessment transmittal form and to report to the Joint Legislative Oversight Committee on Health and Human Services, and to the Joint Legislative Educational Oversight Committee. House Bill 168, an act to exempt from property tax the increase in value real property held for sales by a builder, to the extent the increase is attributable to a subdivision for improvements by the builder. And the following resolutions duly ratified, properly enrolled, and prepared for presentation to the Office of the Secretary of State: Senate Joint Resolution 162, a joint resolution honoring the life and memory of Daniel Reid Simpson, former member of the General Assembly. Chapter of bills will be noted. Members, it doesn't appear that our Nurse of the Day is with us. Messages from the Senate, the Clerk will read. House Bill 117, NC Competes Act. Calendar, pursuant to Rule 36 B [xx].

House Bill 372, Medicaid Medicaid Transformation Health Information Exchange Primary Care Funds. Calendar, pursuant to Rule 36 B. Representative Iler is recognized to send forth the Conference Report, the clerk will read. Conferees appointed to resolve the differences between the Senate and the House of Representatives on House Bill 268, a bill to be entitled An Act To Amend And Clarify The Statutes Governing The Clearance Of Wrecked Vehicles And Other Traffic Obstacles From Public Highways; To Authorize The Department Of Transportation To Permit Encroachment Of Airspace Above State Road 1347 Nevada Boulevard, In The City Of Charlotte, For The Construction Of A Material Conveyance System; And To Extend To December 31st, 2015, The Exploration Date For A Native Brook Trout Special Licence Plate. State Transportation Committee substitute adopts 7/1/15 submit the final report. The House and the Senate agreed to the following amendment to the State Transportation Committee substitute. It adopts 7/1/15 and the House concurrence in the Senate Committee substitute as amended. Delete the [xx] Senate Transportation Committee substitute adopted 7/1/15 and to deattach proposal, proposed conference committee substitute H26-PCCS10430-RW-2. The conferees recommended that the state, the Senate, and House of Representative adopt this report. Date conferees appointed approved report August 13, 2015, conferees for the Senate. Senator Rabin, Chairs senators Daniel and Davis, and Lowe. Conferees for House of Representative, Representatives Iler, Chair Representatives Torbett, Shepard and Tine. Calendar Federal 36B. Madam clerk, that conference report will be calendared for Monday. Now the chair may ask indulgence of the body to calendar for Tuesday if it appears there would otherwise be no other recorded votes on Monday. Let me state this, objection to that bill being set for Tuesday instead of Monday should the Chair deem that that would not necessitate any votes on Monday? Go ahead Representative Hall I'll see if you caucus back shift on that objection. Just the bill number we're talking about, the conference report number? It's a House Bill 268, it's a conference report. It had to do about wrecked vehicles and traffic obstacles Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I did want to make sure to put on the record that if I can run an amendment a day, I do have a cupcake to offer in return Sir. It doesn't work, I'm on a diet, but Clayton Summers has volunteered to take if you want to give it to him. For what purpose does the gentleman from Cumberland, Representative Floyd rise? Enquiry of the Chair. The gentleman may state his enquiry.   Mr. Speaker, well you have sent 268 if it was calendar Tuesday, that they would be no votes on Monday.   The House will come to order please, it's a little loud. I don't know if we're going to need any votes Monday night or not. If we're going to have to have votes we'll do it then, but if there are otherwise no votes needed, I don't think it's critical that we vote on that bill Monday night, the State will probably continue to survive if we waited for Tuesday. Thank you, Mr. Speaker because I have a hearing problem. Sir. Without objection the Rule is suspended for the purpose on that bill to be calendared a different day. House Bill the clerk will read. Representatives Willingham, Waddell, [xx] and C. Graham House Bill 394, An Act To Authorize Ashe, Columbus, Franklin, Hoke, Mesh, Richmond, Rutherford, Scotland, and Watauga Counties To Use Proceeds From Local Government Sales And Use Tax For Public Transportation

For School Construction In Lieu Of The Public Transportation. The General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. For what purpose does the gentleman from Richmond Representative Goodman rise? To debate the bill. The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. I think we've heard enough about this bill please vote green, thank you. Further discussion, further debate? For what purpose does the gentleman from Wayne, Representative Bell rise? Inquiring the chair. The gentleman may state his inquiry. Is this actually going to be the last time we are going to see this bill? You know no bills really ever truly die at the General Assembly. Further discussion, further debate? if not the question before the House is the passage House Bill 394 on its third reading. Those in favor will say aye, those oppose will say no, the clerk will open the vote. Vote aye sorry. Yes those in favor will vote aye, those opposed will vote no the clerk has opened the vote and the Chair will keep the vote open. Representative Arp, Representative Davis, Representative Floyd Representative Fisher, do the members wish to record on this vote? Do the lady from Buckingham Representing Fisher wish to record on this vote? Representative [xx] The Clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 106 having voted in the affirmative and 4 in the negative, House Bill 394 passes it's third reading it's sent to the Senate. Mr. Speaker. For what purpose does the gentleman from Wake Representative Martin rise? You are clearly sleeping on the job and I would move that we allow Speaker Jeter to preside, it might happen shortly. Objection. For what purpose does lady from Buncombe, Representative Fisher rise? Point of order, just point of information. The lady may state. Representative Martin I think just wanted to say Speaker Jeter. Noted. On your calendar members, Senate Bill 185, Clarify Credit for Time Served, the Chair is going to remove that from today's calendar and re-calendar that for Tuesday August 18th, I believe the bill sponsor's requesting additional time on that. House Bill 504, the Clerk will read. Representatives Boles and McNeill,  HOUSE BILL 504, A BILL TO BE ENTITLED AN ACT TO AUTHORIZE MOORE COUNTY TO LEVY AN ADDITIONAL OCCUPANCY TAX. The General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. For what purpose does the gentleman from Randolph, Representative McNeill rise? To debate the bill. The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. Appreciate your Green vote yesterday, it again today thank you. Further discussion, further debate? If not the question before the House is the passage of House Bill 504 on its third reading. Those in favor will vote aye, those opposed will vote no, the clerk will open the vote. The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 93 having voted in the affirmative and 17 in the negative, House Bill 504 passes its third reading will be sent to the Senate. Senate Bill 15 the clerk will read. Senator Rucho, Senate Bill 15, a bill to be entitled An Act To Make Changes To The Unemployment Insurance Laws As Recommended By The Joint Legislative Oversight Committee On Unemployment Insurance, And To Confirm Appointments From The Board Of Review. The General Assembly Of North Carolina enacts. For what purpose does the lady from Davie, Representative Howard rise? To debate the bill. The lady has the floor to debate Thank you, Sir. Members of the Body, after we passed House Bill 4 in 2013, the objective of that bill was to give your employers some certainty and some security about the repayment of the $2.7 million debt that we had at that time. That bill passed, and it has worked extremely well, the debt has been paid in full, and there's one remaining piece that the employers will continue to pay, that's a 20% surcharge that goes into the Trust Fund. As soon as that 20% Surcharge Trust Fund gets to $1 billion then that piece will also be removed. So we can all look back and say, that was a very successful plan, and has worked well. Since the bill passed, the Oversight Committee for Unemployment Insurance has to continue to meet and that's three members

from Senate and three from the House, and we have found that there are some tweaks that would enhance the program even further than what we did on the beginning. So there are several pieces, I'd be glad to through each of them, but overall the changes are things that will go into our North Carolina State Unemployment Plan, it will go into the statutes and be sanctioned. There's been some actions that have occurred since November of '11 that we are clarifying and sanctioning those actions, and third, the Board of Review, which will be the three members that are currently appointed will remain in that position, but the bill gives staggered terms to the three members. One member is an attorney, one member represents the public and one member represents the industry. So they will remain consistently there with state attorney. I'll be glad to answer any particular question that you have but I would as that you vote yes, and making purpose this Senate bill to bed. For what purpose does the gentleman from Craven Representative Speciale rise? To see if the bill sponsor will yield to a question? Does the lady from David yield to the gentleman from Craven? Yes sir. She yields. The 20% surcharge, what this bill does also is get rid of that surcharge. Yes sir. Or suspend it. OK, do we have to do this each an every time it gets below or is an automatic, is the trigger automatic? It's an trigger, so when we reach the billion dollar point, and if we find that we are in need of doing something different there is a trigger that will put it back on. Follow up? Does the lady yield to an additional question? Yes sir. She yields. OK, so this time we have to suspend it but in the future the trigger inner of itself will either pick it up or suspend it again. We have a protection clause in there so we will never end up with $2 billion debt again. For what purpose does the gentleman from Cumberland, Representative Glazier rise? Mr. Speaker to see if Representative Howard might yield for a question. Does the lady from David yield to the gentleman from Cumberland? Yes sir. She yields. Thank you Mr. Speaker, thank you representative. Just a quick question on the contacts issue. I know that it's changing from two contacts by the claimant on a multi-day period, over a multi-day period to five in a week, and I understood more from articles than anything that the agency had asked for three, so I wonder just how we settled on five and if there's any other data to support that, the move to five in other states might have increased people actually obtaining jobs. The findings from the oversight committee was and that's the recommendation from that committee that there be five the objective is to get people back into the habit of looking for employment and applying, they can apply either online or in person and our suggestion was to have five contacts that's five contacts per week originally it's two contacts per day in a day, but this now it goes to five in a week's time. One follow up, Mr. Speaker. Does the lady yield to an additional question? Yes Sir. She yields. Thank you Mr. Speaker, and thank you Representative. I just it is a different recommendation than the agency, and I get it and again my question and I understand the point, but was it based on another States doing it, how did we settle on that one, it wasn't the agency recommendation, I guess is my question. I think the agency she recommended the lesser contacts and that was tied to extended benefits the federal extended benefits, we haven't taken those, and so we are not following that guideline of the federal extended benefits, we are not in that category of extended benefits, so again North Carolina has adopted their own plan, their own State Plan, and all of it has been pre-cleared with the Labor Department.

Further discussion, further debate? For what purpose does the gentleman for Durham, Representative Luky rise? To see if Representative Howard would yield for a question. Does the lady from Davie yield to the gentleman from Durham? Yes Sir. She yields. Thank you, Representative Howard. Representative Glazier was asking about the shift from 2-5 and I heard that, I understood that former Representative Folwell who is in charge of the agency right now that he did recommend three and that it was about the issue of being in line with the federal government's regulations. My question is really, why are we pushing this when he said three and why are we pushing it to five and I say that because let's put ourselves in the shoes of someone whose not employed and why we'd be increasing the number of contacts, that's my question Thank you Dr. Lukey again I will say, our objective is to help people who are drawing unemployment benefits, most of these people really want a job, they don't want to continue drawing unemployment benefits, we felt that with the access of the can do online computer enquiries, they don't have to all be personal contacts, but we were achieving our objective of putting this people back into the job market as quickly as we could and the current regulations two contacts now we are going to five, again I would say I believe in not speaking for Mr. Forwel I don't know if see them in the gallery perhaps he is but he made note that the federal guidelines which were tied to the extended benefits that's where the three contacts per week stems from, we are not taking extended benefits, and so we are not in that arena that the Oversight Committee worked for many, many meetings coming up with the very best things working with employers and in unemployment individuals there was no objective to the five and so I do think that it's best that we adopt the five and you can find that that is cumbersome and not working, though we can always come back and change it, but I would ask you to support the report as written. Thank you Representative Howard, and for what purpose does the gentleman rise? To speak very briefly on the bill. Representative Lueke has the floor to debate the bill Thank you, and I just want to speak to the change from two to five. I couldn't agree more with Representative Howard that people who are unemployed are trying to get back and get job and to get into employment, but what we're doing here is forcing them to go from 2-5 and in in the finance committee there was a lot discussion about all this is so much easier because folks are online can go online. Well we all I think we all know about the digital divide and there are many people in the state who do not have access to a computer to go online. So I just think it's a is inpunitive to go from 2-5 and just like it's wrong to force this on people. Mr. Speaker support the bill. Mr. Speaker. Yes for what purpose does the lady Davi representative Haward rise?  To ask representative Lukie a question please.  Does the gentleman from Durham yield to the lady from Dave.  I yield.  He yields. Representative Luckie I want to be sure that you're aware that the work force development arm of the employment security division has now put a will computers in every library in the state of North Carolina and so those are made available to lower the people who need to use the digital devices to seeking an employment. You were aware of that but I just wanted to confirm.

I think that's a great idea that it's in every library and just leave it at that Thank you. Thank you Representative Howard. For what purpose does the gentleman from Robinson Representative Graham rise? Speak on the bill. The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. Thank you Mr. Speaker. Members I don't mean to be disrespectful to member Representative Howard but I am going to have to vote against this bill for a couple of reasons and I'll be brief I don't want to be repetitive. I have no problem with accountability I think most people don't have problems with being accountable, but I do have some concerns with this recommendation to increase the responsibility to five when the agency is recommending three. I feel like it's just putting an undue burden on people, especially in rural counties, who have limited resources to do that to those individuals I think is an overreach. I think those individuals certainly want to have employment but to ask them to use limited resources, and for government to reach out and say well you need to do this now I think is unfair. I just don't think it's the right thing to do to those individuals and I would certainly encourage you especially if you're in a rural county to think about the burden if you're putting on individuals to travel, to move around with limited resources and in many cases no transportation, and I know In many homes no access to the internet yes we do have access in our libraries but still but it puts a burden on those individuals to get around and do those things and I would certainly encourage you to think about that, when you make your make your  vote I don't think we are giving away anything if we can go with the agencies recommendation and I would certainly ask you to support not voting for this recommendation thank you. For what purpose does the gentleman from Mecklenburg, Representative Bradford, rise? To speak on the bill, Mr. Speaker. The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. So this is called unemployment. These people have one job to do, and it's to go get a job. the idea to take it from two to five, that that seems unreasonable, escapes me. These folks have five days a week, while they're collecting an appointment to go make contact, to get a job with five different employers. I don't see how that is unreasonable whatsoever in Finance I spoke on this, and I suggest it be ten, but I most certainly will take five. I encourage you to think about the notion of these people, who are at home collecting unemployment, who have one thing to do, and that's to go find a job. Using the computers, using online it's not unreasonable, because in many cases you can make multiple contacts on one day, so please vote green on this. For what purpose does the gentleman from Forsyth Representative Hanes rise? Question for Representative Howard if she would. Please Sir. Does the lady from Davie yield to the gentleman from Forsyth? Yes Sir. She yields Representative Howard, I know we talked about this in Finance, earlier this week, but I was wondering if you could give me a definition for contact contact mean in this context. Well, I believe it's like pornography, if you knew see it. Touche. Touche. The ability to look on the North airline job site to see and it's so easy to access, it's broken down by county, by job by qualifications, all of those jobs are posted and it's not dated and it's a great site, that's one source, the second source would be in order to get a job, you almost have to almost have a job or know someone who does and so your neighbor, your barber and a lot of people word of mouth that someone is hiring and you would physically make a contact with that employer, I think that would be deemed a proper contact.

Follow-up Mr. Speaker. Does the lady yield to an additional question? Yes sir. She yields. the five contacts be made in one day? Yes sir. Doesn't have to be [xx] Does the gentleman wish to ask additional questions? Yes follow-up please Does the lady yield to an additional question?   Yes sir.   She yields. It does not have to be one contact, five days a week, it can just be five contacts one day, submit and done. Five contacts in a five-day time frame. Thank you. Yes sir. For what purpose does the lady from Wake Representative Halley rise? Speak on the bill. The lady has floor to debate the bill. I have a couple of concerns for it also in the same area of the number of five contacts some of the is due to on several levels the first level is that if you are seeking employment you are seeking a new a highly trained or skilled person and you seeking employment as an accountant and you are in an area where there are not a lot of accounting positions and then you finding you have to meet a [xx] of filing put five per week, what is the burden we are putting on employers who now being bombarded with a lot of people who are putting in applications for a job or making contacts that are not seriously going to consider that place of employment. I have a friend who's a human resource person who says that what happens now is instead of 50 applicants they get 300 applicants they may offer the job to 10 people before they have to get to somebody who seriously wanted that job and it has delayed and bugged up our human resource this department in trying to deal with a lot of this also it forces somebody who maybe an accountant to put in for a position somewhere else that they wouldn't not consider and we have to be careful about when we group everybody's unemployment in the same category everybody has different skill levels and I think that five is too restrictive and I can't support this bill.  For what purpose does the gentleman from Cabarrus representative Pittman rise? Speak on the bill. Gentleman has the floor to debate on the bill. Thank you Mr. Speaker on this particular point we've seen to have learned debate on at the moment I'm just thinking when I was right out of seminary back in the end of 1980 going into 1981. Just a moment Representative, just a moment. The House will come to order please, and give the gentleman the attention he deserves. The gentleman has the floor to continue debating.   Thank you. I was not an entirely unemployed, but I was only making $100 a week at a little church I was serving down in Greenville, North Carolina, so with a wife and a little baby I definitely needed further employment. And I went all over the place trying to find a job, and it took me about three months. I never even asked for any unemployment money, I just made best I could with the $100 a week, and I'd be surprised if I didn't make at least five contacts a week trying to find something, took me three months. I just don't see why five contacts a week is a problem, especially for somebody who is drawing unemployment. Thank you. For what purpose does the lady from Wake, Representative Avila rise? To ask a question of the bill sponsor. please. Does the lady from Davie, Representative Howard, does the lady yield to the lady from Wake? Yes sir. She yields. Thank you Mr. Speaker. Representative Howard, Representative Holley's objections brought up a question that I have and that is what happens in a case when someone is offered a job and they turn it down? Is there some type of a qualification that says you're under employed or you don't have to accept, how does that work? Yes madam. If you go back to the House Bill that we passed in 2013 there're consequences, and so if you were offered a job you need to take that job, and It may not be at the same salary level or at the same requirement level with respect to education and qualifications, but if you are offered a job, you do need to take that job in order to continue to draw you unemployment benefits, they will stop. Thank you. To speak on the bill Mr. Mr. Speaker. The lady from Wake has the floor to debate the bill. It's basically one question and that is if it's an undue burden for somebody to make contact five days a week to find the job is it going to be an undue burden five days a week to go to work? Thank you. For what purpose does the lady from Forsyth, Representative Terry, rise? For what purpose does the the gentleman from Cumberland, Representative Floyd rise? To ask the bill sponsor a question.

Does the lady from Davy yield to the gentleman from Cumberland? \ Yes, sir. She yields In rules there was a question that I raised and commissioner Falwell stated that on page four that the qualification as it relates to ID came from the federal government. And on line 12 I think it's line 11 are there in section six. The concern that I had then is that we have a lot of students they go into our universities that have ID but that ID may not be considered, so my question to you is just saying what about student ID? Representative Floyd I believe that the recommendation that you're speaking of is requiring photo ID for identification purposes, and I believe that would be totally up to the division to accept and recognize any type of legitimate photo ID in order to have that person deemed to be the person that he or she might say that they are. So that was a recommendation coming from the federal government that they felt that that was a good piece of the application. Follow up, Mr. Chair. Yes sir. Does the lady yield to an additional question? Yes sir. She yields. Would it be difficult to add Section 6A, is that any State university ID would be acceptable also section. Would you be amenable to an amendment for that because there's a lot of student population that also that are unemployed, they're seeking unemployment? Representative Floyd, I wouldn't have an objection to it. I think that this Oversight Committee will continue to function after this bill is passed because they will continue to be certain changes, tweaks that need to be made, but the department has certainly, they have been using the this requirement for several months now and they have not brought any concern to anyone particularly Senator Rucho, and that's his bill we're hearing today, that there was a problem with any of the IDs that had been chosen to be used. Mr. Chair? For what purpose does the gentleman from Cumberland, Representative Floyd, continue to seek to recognition? Two questions, would I have to object to third reading? No, I believe this bill is a roll call bill so there will be third reading and as a matter of fact once it passes the Chair will ask that the third reading be on Tuesday instead of Monday as well, but there will be an opportunity for the gentleman to look at it Tuesday as well. Thank you. Mr. Speaker? For what purpose does the gentleman Ashe, Representative Jordan, rise? Inquiry of the bill sponsor. Does the lady from Davie yield to the gentleman from Ashe? Yes, sir. She yields. Thank you for yielding Representative Howard. I have just a quick question is someone who's enrolled as a student in our university system eligible for unemployment? Well, they could be. If they are a full time student and also working the required number of hours that would make them eligible. It would be a far reach, but it could happen.   Thank you. For what purpose does the gentleman from Cumberland, Representative Glazier rise? Thank you. To debate the bill please, Mr. Speaker. The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm in a sense sorry I raised the issue, but also happy I raised the issue of the number, but I want to speak for that in a minute and then hopefully we can go on from there. I am reminded in this debate that we've had on it of that old saying by Oscar Wilde, The truth is never pure and simple, is never pure and really simple. So my concern when I raised it was two points. The statute that we're now changing really focuses on quantity of contacts instead of quality, and that really ought not be what the focus is. Having represented lots of unemployed folks, either through

the criminal justice system or otherwise, part of the goal in working with them and getting them transition plans is to get people, as the Workplace Development folks and as the office is now doing. To know how to write resume, to look at their skills, to try to match up skills to a job that they're good at. Instead what we're doing, and I fear what we're doing and that's my concern, is that now to what Representative Holly talked about earlier is that you've got to meet your five quota for the week. So we're going to spend more time getting the five out without really taking the time to think who we're applying to, why we're applying, getting some research done on the computer about the company we're applying to, doing the things we want them to do to actually have legitimate contacts to get a job, as opposed to meeting the five contacts. my first problem, my second is a point representative Hauler made as all of you who're employers know particularly about these jobs in terms of unemployment we've got lot of resumes and you want to screen through you want to be careful and give everyone a shot and it's one thing you do when you've 30 of them but when you've 130 of them because people are just flying them in it really distracts your capacity actually take time and to work with someone and to get the right person the best you can, so I think there is an issue there. But I want to talk to  reprentative [xx] point as he raised it and I want to say it this way. We should be careful not to put every unemployed person in the same box So the person who is 65 years old or 60 years old who was on their the job for 30 years and got laid off because the job went away. He has never had an interview for a job in their life because that was their job in their community that their parents had and they had. To say that it is still easy for them to go further line five and make five contacts for someone who maybe intervated never had to organize a resimate they never had to do anything, the first week throughout the same 10 weeks later after they've had sufficient training I think is wrong through a lot of people unemployed for very different reasons with very different skills and our job aught to be to get them, they have enough self confidence and enough skill level and enough documentation so when they make those contacts they leave a legitimate chance of getting a job where they are going and they are not wasting employer doing it my only concern with this provision is that we are substituting quantity for quality and doing so will hurt both the perspective employer and the perspective employee and that was my reason for raising the question, I continue to have concern with that provision, but I thank Representative Howard for all the work she had done on this, for all the changes even some of which I just agreed with several years ago and I look forward to try to without issue later, thank you. For what purpose does the lady from Davie Representative Howard rise? Further discussion further debate if not the question before the house is the passage of senate bill 15 on its second reading. Those in favor will vote aye those oppose will vote no the Clerk will open the open the vote. The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 82 having voted the affirmative and 27 to the negative senate bill 15 passes its second reading will remain on the calendar and without objection will be counted for Tuesday so ordered. Members the house is about to go into recess until 1 PM and the purpose of this is that the majority party is going to have a coccus I believe representative Harger is going surely the minority leader's been advised of this as well but the intention of the Chair is that we come back in at 1 O'clock to deal with the remaining bills on the calendar any notices and announcements need to be made at this time. For what purpose does the gentleman from Rutherford representative Hager rise? For an announcement. Gentleman has the floor for an announcement. Thank you Mr. Speaker Republicans will cocus in 1228. Further notices and announcement, if not the house will stand in recess until 1 PM. The house will come to order. Members the Chair will take

a moment of personal privilege to point out that representative Jeter offered to preside today and I pointed out that reason representative Martin got so exited was that the first time he had seen a Democrat preside never the house in a while. House bill 482 the Clerk will read. Representatives Peddleton, [xx], Szoka and Bishop House Bill 482 a bill to be entitled an act to enact employees without classification General assembly of North Carolina enact For what purpose does the gentleman from Wake Representative Pendleton rise? To debate the bill The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill.   I think everybody in here knows enough about the bill but if you have specific questions please ask me Further discussion, further debate? If not the question before the house is the passage of house bill 482 House bill 482 on its third reading the Chair is going to make sure most folks are having opportunity come in Well a lot of folks probably surprised that Representative Pendleton speech are that short question before the house is the passage of house bill 482 on it's third reading. Those in favor will vote, aye those opposed will vote, no. The clerk will open vote the clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 90 having voted in the affirmative and 15 in the negative House Bill 482 passes its third reading, bills ordered in gross and will be sent to the senate Representatives Bell, Millis, and Riddell are recognized to send forth the committee report, the clerk will read. Representatives Bell, Millis, and Riddell, Regulatory Reform Committee Report, House Bill 805, Measurability Assessments, favorable committee substitute unfavorable original bill and re-referred to Appropriations. Bill is re-referred to the Committee on Appropriations. House Bill 813, NC Accountability, favorable committee substitute unfavorable original bill and re-referred to Appropriations. The bill is also re-referred to Committee on Appropriations. Representatives Davis and Ford are recognized to send forth THE committee report. Clerk will read. Representative Davis and Ford, Local Government Committee Report. Senate Bill 255 Durham Voluntary Annexation Petitions favorable and re-referred to Finance. Bill is re-referred to the Committee on Finance. Senate Bill 52, Cities Means Aggravating Park Modules[sp?] favorable committee substitute unfavorable Senate committee substitute. Senate committee substitute unfavorable calendar, House committee substitute calendar. The chair believes that there's no objection of this bill being on today's calendar, hearing none so ordered. Senate Bill 477 Transfer Of Bladen Correction Facility committee substitute in favor of Senate Committee substitute. Senate Committee substitute placed on the unfavorable calendar. The House committee substitute. Number one will countered and Chair has also informed there's no objection to this bill on today's calendar. Any objections so ordered. House bill 38 the Clerk will read. Representatives Davis and Burt house bill 38 a bill to entitled an act to increase judicially efficiency and effective administration of justice by making hard copies of apparent division reports available to persons and entities over the endorsed lists of statutes and also making them available. Electronically establishing the Joint Select Study Committee on preservation of biological evidence, to work in the administrative offices, to develop a case management system for civil cases in the Superior Court, directing administrative offices to develop a written comprehensive policy for managing Information Technology resources direct to the offices across the State. Appointment supervision. Magistrates providing the mechanism for enforcing payments The criminal mediation fee, and providing for mediated settlement conferees in district court civil actions. The General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. For what purpose purpose does the gentleman from New Hanover Representative Davis rise? To speak on the bill. The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. Thank you Mr. Speaker ladies and gentlemen of the house, some of this will look very familiar to you all, the reason is, in the last biennium after the long session Representative Burr and I co-chaired a judicial efficiency study and out of that came a recommendations for certain bills pertaining to what we had conducted during that committee and the seven bills that are on this bill you have today

were introduced during the short session as individual bills, every one of the bills past the House all the bills didn't went on to the Senate, they were referred to three different committees and were never heard, so they died, so when we started this long session and you know there is a limitation on how many bills we have in a biennium, so I'd than rather myself credited with seven individual bills I ran them all in this one bill so I don't have one bill to deal with as far as the bill count. This legislation that you have in front of you today was initially heard in judiciary two, where it received a favorable report, it was just heard in finance where it received a favorable. I'd be happy Mr. Speaker to try to answer any questions if anyone has any concerning any of the sections I would say Mr. Speaker that I was going to have an amendment pertaining to section six to be done today, I would ask sir if I may withdraw that amendment, I would ask you if you would consider if this passes second reading to put the third reading on for next Tuesday, or whenever you deem appropriately calls the parties that are affected there're some controversy of that whether the amendment is in fact needed So I would like to do this to give them and I have directed them to get together in the meantime and let's make a decision on whether we need to go with them or not Sir. I would also say Sear Stevens has an amendment that he would like to introduce at the appropriate time Mr. Speaker deems which I have no objection to that. For what purpose does and the gentleman that Chair require does cocus material amendment so if we would take the amendment on third reading it wouldn't delay anything so that amendment will be returned to the gentleman does the gentleman desire further debate at this point? Not if I can just have Miss. Stevens recognized to make her amendment Mr. Speaker. For what purpose does the lady from Surry representative Stevens rise? To send forward an amendment. The lady is recognized to sent forward an amendment the Clerk will read. Representative Stevens moves to amend the bill on page four lines 27, 35  to 41 by deleting the word courts and submitting courts in conjunction with North Carolina Courts commission. Lady is recognized to debate the amendment. Thank you Mr. Speaker. We got in the courts commission back and running so I felt that that was an appropriate to do so of the studies about code efficiency and we will do those in conjunction with the administrative office of the courts so that's how our amendment does is direct the study portions of this to be looked at the courts commission as well as administrative officer of the courts and I ask for your support. Further discussion further debate on the amendment if not the question before the house is the passage of amendment one send forward representatives Stevens. Those in favor will vote aye those oppose will vote the Clerk will open the vote. The Clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 108 having voted in the affirmative and none in the negative the amendment is adopted we are now back on the bill as amended. Further discussion further debate? If not the question before the house is the passage of house bill 38 on it's second reading those in favor will vote aye those opposed will vote no the Clerk will open the vote. the clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 109 having voted in the affirmative and none in the negative House Bill 38 passes its second reading the chair directs that the amendment be engrossed and the bill will be on for the third reading on Tuesday of next week. Senate Bill 446 the clerk will read Senator Jackson, Senate bill 446, there'll be an entitlement act to arrive at uniform [xx] franchise dealer, Lonrho Vehicles, to clarify their information agency State, political subdivisions of the State shall have authority to procure and have unnamed aircraft. Systems upon approval of the Sate Chief an officer and to modify the regulation of unmanned aircraft systems to inform the FAA guidelines, and to authorize Brunswick County to regulate navigable waters within its boundaries.  General Assembly Of North Carolina enact. For what purpose does the gentleman from Gaston, Representative Torbett rise? To speak on the bill and send forth an amendment Mr. Speaker. Does the gentleman wish to debate the bill first or send forth the amendment first? To send forth amendment Mr. Speaker. The gentleman is recognized, the clerk will read the amendment. Representative Torbett moves to amend the bill on page 5

lines 31 to 33 by rewriting those lines to read. The gentleman has the floor to debate the amendment. Thank you Mr. Speaker. Ladies and gentlemen of the House this amendment is just a clarifying amendment, there was some complexion in language and it was noted late which is why I'm bringing it to you. It simply strikes lines 31 through 33 to make it pretty much the same language throughout the rest of the bill. I would appreciate a green vote. Further discussion, further debate on the amendment? If not, the question for the House is the adoption of amendment one offered by Representative Torbett. Those in favor will vote aye, those opposed will vote no, the clerk will open the vote. The Clerk. Representative Floyd, tell me what you know. The corp will lock the machine and record the vote. 108 having voted in the one of the negative of the amendment is adopted. We're now back on the bill as amended. Thank you Mr. Speaker. The bills are actually in three parts. I'll try to touch greatly on two of them, and rely on Representative Arnold to touch on the third, which is in his field of expertise. Ladies and gentlemen, that first part of the bill provides for clarity in the licensing of franchise dealer, Lonrho Vehicles. There have been some debate over the years. Senator Jackson talked to all the people involved there is no one opposed to that part and I've not held any opposition whatsoever. And senator Jackson was also kind enough to allow us to and what was house bill four and just to reflect on house bill four it has already passed the house 1 six to five and what house bill four does is just pretty much bring the online system language we did last year back up to what the federal aviation administration had changed between last year and this year as far as their rule-making. You'll at this it's like we had 18-year old FAA declares that you could be 17-year old to be an operator, just those types of changes is what we did to the law. It also cleared up one part of the bill last year that we had hoped to get done in technical corrections, we had no technical corrections so it didn't get done, so it also clarifies that in relationship to the Chief Information Officer and Mr. Speaker if I could allow Representative Burr to speak on the third part Brunswick County. For what purpose does the gentleman from Brunswick Representative Iler rise? To debate the bill. The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. Thank you Mr. Speaker, the third part of the bill is simply House Bill 478 which passed the body by 113 to 1 and it just allows Brunswick County in the case of all the state and the federal agency is not regulating certain bodies of s far as boating when they don't do it and the people abusing the privileges of anchoring and uses the county facilities and so forth that the counties and regulate and that's simply what it is and the House Bill we passed it went to the Transportation and the Senate and it's still there Senator Jackson is kind enough to allow us to put that into this bill, so I appreciate your support. Further discussion further debate for what purpose does the gentleman from Cabarrus representative Pittman rise? Ask representative Torbet a question. Does the gentleman Guston yield to the gentleman from Cabarrus? It'll be a pleasure Mr. Speaker. He yields. I may be misunderstand the first part of this bill this one gets some clarification. My understanding as you can take car and ride 1, 000, 2, 000, 5, 000 miles wherever as a learber or is it demonstrator or something and is sealed as new. I mean I'm not sure maybe a misunderstanding so I would just let that explain please. Thank you for the question representative there was some of the same question I've had committee actually there're federal rules and regulations about doing that, and actually this provides a betterment for the person that would eventually buy the car. It still protects the warranty cabinets if you would, so it's actually better for someone buying the car. Of course mileage should be indicated on the auto meter, but they still could capture the warranty as I understand, and they're still our federal rules and regs dictating when it is new, when it is not new. So those same questions were asked. For what purpose does the lady from Buncombe Representative Fisher rise? To ask the bill sponsor a question please? Does the gentleman from Gaston yield to the lady from Buncombe. I'd be humbled Mr. Speaker. He yields. Thank you, thank you Representative Torbett. I have not really been on committee or through this process, and I would really like again some clarifications about why the public information officer of the state has anything to do with drones. Yes mum, the public information

are the chief information officer which I think is his title. We had to have a point passing into allowing or not allowing and that time during the stand up of the yes he was the person to go and the reason we chose him go to is because state agency have rules relative to data collection and on main system and if I get out of the way I apologize I'll try to stay really close to the fence. If a unmanned air system is out there id it has nothing on it other than just been able to apply, it's incapable of doing anything but just moving around. So when you start adding different sensing devices such as a camera or something like that, that's when you come into the point where you're actually collecting data. So if governmental agencies attempt to use one whether be police whether be wild life whether be sheriffs department or anything that is a government flavor let's say then there are rules and less identical and he is at the states chief collector of that data, so that was the coalition we made for him to have that check off until such time that we had stood up the permitting process. If you remember last year we have licensing and permitting. Since last year the FFA has released their licensing component and so we just simply remove that since are the dominate care taker about matter system the national air space we moved up, but we feel like the citizens of North Carolina at least no new though who was operating in North Carolina so you could for whatever reason you would be able to connect on main system with some type of ownership and so we have to say we have type permitted in the license FFA North Carolina will simply provide a permit so you have to have a knowledge skill to know what legal in North Carolina what is illegal in North Carolina since the law rules of the road and then be issued a permit, but the CIO rauted that the data collection was that correlation we may.   For what purpose does the gentleman from Edgecombe, Representative Willingham rise? Question of the bill sponsor.   Does the gentleman from Gaston yield to the gentleman from Edgecombe? It'd be a pleasure, Mr. Speaker. He yields.   You mention, I'm looking at the bill and just one question. In the bill the word skill has been removed and just knowledge. Do you believe it's possible to have knowledge of the drone or this unmanned aircraft without having any skills to operate it? Once again thank you for the question, but that responsibility was captured to the FFA Rules and Regs piece at the federal level. So we chose to remove that from our State piece just providing a permit process. OK, thank you. Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of Senate Bill 446. Those in favor will vote Aye those oppose will vote no, the clerk will open the vote. The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 106 having voted in the affirmative and 4 in the negative, Senate Bill 446 passes its second reading and will without objection be read a third time. General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. Further discussion, further debate? If not the question before the House is the passage of Senate Bill 446 on its third reading. Those in favor will say aye? Those opposed no? The ayes have it. Senate Bill 446 passes its third reading, will be sent to the Senate. For what purpose does the gentleman from Gaston Representative. For a point of personal privilege Mr. Speaker. The gentleman is recognized to speak to a point of personal privilege. Thank you, I'd be remiss if I didn't alert the membership of this hallowed body that you will start seeing some information coming out by way of media, we are taking a proactive look at the operational activity manned air system inside the borders of North Carolina. There is concern as we all have about the operation and who is performing the operations and where they are. We felt that that pretty much mandated us to push out as much information about the does and don'ts. So when you start seeing that it starts spread out in every [xx] and home [xx] throughout the state just be on alert because I feeling some of you folks may start asking you questions about that we do have strong walls everything from a $5, 000 fee for a photograph being disseminated, taken by the vehicle without the of the person that's in the photograph,

we have misdemeanors, and most importantly we also have felonious, different degrees of felonies for the more serious and the most of all we have people operating these could also commit an act of terror as defined in the state of North Carolina they could commit an act of terrorist to find in United States of America, or they can act to commit act of terror to find through both. So there is a serious various criminal penalties and we need to push that information out and that what you'll start saying probably the first of next week, thank you for this time Mr. Speaker And that bill order be engrossed as well. Senate Bill 52, the Clerk will read. Senator Krawiec, Senate Bill 52, A BILL TO BE ENTITLED AN ACT AUTHORIZING CITIES TO ALLOW ACTIVATION OF PARKING METERS BY COINS, TOKENS, CASH, CREDIT CARDS, DEBIT CARDS, OR OTHER ELECTRONIC MEANS. The General Assembly of North Carolina enacts  For what purpose does the lady from Representative Conrad rise? To debate the bill. The lady has the floor to debate the bill. Just to refresh your memory, early in the Session the House unanimously passed a little local bill for Winston-Salem to allow the city to use credit cards, debit cards for parking meters. My Senate counterpart decided but this needed to apply to cities statewide and update our antiquated statutes to the common methods of payment of 2015. I appreciate your support, thank you. For what purpose does the gentleman from Wake, Representative Stain rise? To speak on the bill. The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. And I support the bill Representative Conrad, but it's not the solution to everything. Raleigh's had, have you enjoyed the part of paid meters in Raleigh? Do you like them? Well, they're not infallible. One time they sent me a ticket for when I was in Apex. Fortunately, I had documentation that I was in Apex so they said, OK, we'll let you off. The second time they wouldn't take my credit card, and there I was right by the Supreme Court building and they just as Chief Justice of North Carolina walked by, Sarah Parker, and I said, Chief Justice Parker, it will not take my credit card. Will you be my witness that I tried? He said I will came out about two minute late had a ticket I told and they said well we'll have mercy on you this one last time these things are not infallible, fight them. Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of Senate Bill 52 on its Second Reading. Those in favor will vote Aye, those opposed will vote No, the Clerk will open the vote. Do the following members wish to record? Representative, alright. The Clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 106 having voted in the Affirmative and 4 in the Negative, Senate Bill 52 passes its Second Reading will without objection be read a third time. The General Assembly of North Carolina enacts. Further discussion, further debate? If not, the question before the House is the passage of Senate Bill 52 on its Third Reading. Those in favor will say Aye. Aye. Those opposed, No. The Ayes have it, Senate Bill 52 passes its Third Reading and be returned to the Senate. Senate Bill 477, the Clerk will read. Senator Brown, Senate Bill 477,  A BILL TO BE ENTITLED AN ACT TO TRANSFER THE FORMER BLADEN CORRECTIONAL CENTER PROPERTY TO THE BLADEN COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS. The General Assembly of North Carolina enacts: For what purpose does the gentleman from Bladen, Representative Brisson rise? Speak on the bill. The gentleman has the floor to debate the bill. Thank you Mr. Speaker. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the bill that can go to the senate and it does exactly what the title says and no opposition passed the senate 49-0 so be headed in local government this morning and know opposition and be glad to ask any question and I ask for your support. For what purpose does the gentleman from Craven representative Speciali rise? See if sponsor would yield to a question? Does the gentleman from Bladen yield from the gentleman from Craven? I do. He yields. How much property are we talking about and what are they going to use it for. The total crackdown is 411 acres but it doesn't consist of the whole portion is in the [xx] line and it's going to be [xx] community college is part of it, [xx] session that we've been trying to get building house in the county for years and not being able to come up with the money but there's two buildings in the back property located in the back of the property that fits our need so we're hoping to use that the [xx] part is for training for the local sheriff department and

state our [xx] has a lot of strong interest in using it put down they're training and the rest of that area be use as storage be [xx] thank you. Further discussion, further debate? If not the question before the House is the passage of senate bill 477 on second reading those in favor will vote aye, those oppose will vote no the clerk will open the vote The clerk will lock the machine and record the vote. 110 having voted in the affirmative and none in the negative senate bill 477 passes it second reading and will without objection be read a third time General assembly of North Carolina enact Further discussion further debate? If not the question before the house is the passage of senate bill 477 on ts third reading hose in favor will say aye, Aye! Those oppose no the ayes have it senate bill 477 passes it third reading will be return to the senate. It appears special message from the senate the clerk will read Mr. Speaker you just ordered the message received from House of Representatives with information that the Senate adopts a Report of Conferees for House Bill 268 Committee Substitute, a bill to be entitled make various changes to the trasportation law to the state when the appropriate action has been taken by both chambers the bill of the order involved. Respectfully Sarah Lang, Principal Clerk. Noted. Notices and announcements, and actually before I do that the Chair is going to make an announcement to give members of the upcoming schedule for this week the We will not have any recorded votes on Monday that will be a none vote session however I believe the appropriations committee Chairman these maybe sending out a notice for the appropriation committee chairs to meet I would pay close maybe announcement I would deffer to let him may give that notice, but the intent is that we start moving in a much more expeditious matter next week on the budget to try to get that done we are going to try to structure the house calendar in such a way that can be achieved the there are only a few other bills right now that are floating around at least we have to vote on next week and of course Tuesday be some recorded votes, but I don't expect a lengthy session. Monday's session will be a 4 PM no vote-session, so members do not have to be here other than those who are tasked with the Appropriations, then those members should, at least the Chairs I believe will be happy to have some meetings. So conversations are happening progress is being made and hopefully the end is in sight. For what purpose does the gentleman from Wake, Representative Dollar rise? For an announcement. The gentleman has the floor for an announcement. The Appropriations Committee, the various area committees, those Chairs will need to be here in town at by 2 O'Clock on Monday, just the Chairs. For what purpose does the lady from Wilson, Representative Martin rise? For a point of personal privilege. The lady is recognized to speak to a point of personal privilege. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I did not have the opportunity to share with you all earlier that I'm a proud Mama of a high school graduate, my daughter graduated in June and next week she will be missing me because I will traveling with her to National Tennessee to deliver her for college and I want to take this opportunity to invite you to an event this weekend and its not in my district but is featuring one of my most important constituent, my daughter Rachel and her band will be performing Saturday August 15th at 1:30 at the Port festival in Wilmington. Its a big festival and should be on the stage from 1:30 to 3:30 and then will be heading off to nationals the rest will be pursuing singing and song writing passion. So please join me in congratulating and wishing the best to Rachel, thank you For what purpose does the gentleman from Union Representative Browley rise? For announcement The gentleman has the floor for an announcement Next week we are actually opening up the community college committee for Tuesday for senate bill 561 which will be really interesting because as a sign of remediation and I think that's an interesting subject. I do ask you to watch the email for the time and place. For what purpose does the gentleman from Scotland representative Pius rise.   Ask representative Dollar question please. Does the gentlemen from Wake to the from Scot?

I yields He yields Thank you Representative Dollar, many of us particular down Scotland County, Hope County, Robeson County, Richmond County that area of State, will be trapped into a lot of complications for the school system when they bring their staff back together many of us asked to make remarks what will we be able to tell them that we're getting close on the budget at the related education saw that this probably the plan that not not putting on the spot but we have we have a positive a statement to make to them as we go through these complications to talk to the school systems? Well, Representative Pius I would say that we are making progress we certainly like to be concluded as soon as it's reasonably possible and also make sure that we provide for our needs in education that's certainly the goal. Follow up. Does the gentleman yield to an additional question? I yield. It was a friendly question, nothing to put you on a spot, but just wanted to be able to give them some insight on where we are, that was all the question was about. Thank you. Yes Sir, thank you. Any further notices or announcements? Seeing none, the gentleman from Harnett, Representative Lewis is recognized for a motion. Mr. Speaker, subject to the ratification of bills receipt of messages from the Senate, receipt of committee reports and conference reports, the re-referrals of bills and resolutions, the appointment of conferees and the reading of representative statements. I move that the House is now adjourned to reconvene Monday August 17th at 4 O'Clock PM. Representative Lewis moves, seconded by Representative Dickson, that subject to the ratification of bill messages from the senate, committee report, coverage report, referral bills and resolutions appointment of conferees and reading of Representatives statements, that the House do now adjourn to reconvene Monday, August 17th, at 4 PM. Those in favor will say Aye. those oppose no the ayes have it, we stand  adjourn